Analysis: Weighing merits of Jeremy Mayfield case no easy task

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NASCAR Sprint Cup Series owner/driver Jeremy Mayfield has been suspended indefinitely by NASCAR for violating its substance abuse policy. Full Story
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David Hoover

United States

#1 Jul 19, 2009
Hang in there---Nascar said the same crap about Tim Richmond and NEVER paid him the respect He deserved when the TRUTH came out and ruined His Last year He was able to drive winning 3 races in bad shape. Have never made up there flaw to this day

“IN GOD WE TRUST”

Since: Jun 07

Raleigh

#2 Jul 19, 2009
David Hoover wrote:
Hang in there---Nascar said the same crap about Tim Richmond and NEVER paid him the respect He deserved when the TRUTH came out and ruined His Last year He was able to drive winning 3 races in bad shape. Have never made up there flaw to this day
What kind of horse hocket are you pushing? NASCAR never accused Tim Richmond of taking drugs and sure as hell never released anything saying that he was dying from aids. If you knew anything about Tim Richmond, no one had to tell you how he got aids. Tim was the major "player" and wild child in NASCAR in his day. Hell, NASCAR didn't want the world to know he had aids because they thought it was a black eye for them. Keep fooling yourself Dude, but when the smoke clears, Mayfield will still be a meth head that shot himself down.
timmy destin florida

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Jul 21, 2009
All Fans,

In recent years til now has any one ever noticed Jeremy walking around the garage areas or doing interviews high on anything! I don't get it, it seems like to me someone would have had some knowledge or witnessed him doing meth before now, someone would have witnessed something before Nascars so called random drug test! This is going to kill Nascar if this test comes back nothing but positive now !

“Smoke Fan Forever!!!”

Since: Sep 07

Look to the Western Sky!!!!

#4 Jul 21, 2009
timmy destin florida wrote:
All Fans,
In recent years til now has any one ever noticed Jeremy walking around the garage areas or doing interviews high on anything! I don't get it, it seems like to me someone would have had some knowledge or witnessed him doing meth before now, someone would have witnessed something before Nascars so called random drug test! This is going to kill Nascar if this test comes back nothing but positive now !
Have you ever had a family member addicted to something??

I for the life of me didn't know it until someone told me. Not everyone looks like a druggie. Heck you see actors going in to rehab all of the time for addiction and you would have never thought they were high. Some people just don't show it.
Nascartoon

Canton, MI

#5 Jul 21, 2009
timmy destin florida wrote:
All Fans,
In recent years til now has any one ever noticed Jeremy walking around the garage areas or doing interviews high on anything! I don't get it, it seems like to me someone would have had some knowledge or witnessed him doing meth before now, someone would have witnessed something before Nascars so called random drug test! This is going to kill Nascar if this test comes back nothing but positive now !
Maybe some people did witness him doing meth. How many friends have lied for each other about things like this? I'm not sure exactly how you notice someone walking around high. Despite what some of these posters want you to believe, it's not always noticeable. We're not talking about some crackhead living on the street here. Walking around toothless and penniless. We're talking about someone with a career and reputation to protect. Jeremy wouldn't be the first druggie to keep it hidden from general knowledge and he won't be the last. There are people who know about it, but most people won't betray someone close to them by speaking up. We like to believe that we would be different and speak up so he could get the help he needs, but in reality, most of us would keep our mouths shut too. Friends and family hide disturbing behavior on a regular basis, whether it be alcoholism, drug-use, spousal abuse, etc... Don't let these armchair drug experts on here fool you. People are hiding problems like this from every day. They hide it from friends, family and employers for sometimes long periods of time. Why do you think we have drug testing in the workplace? If it was always so obvious, why would it even be needed? Almost everyone denies it vehemently when they get caught too. We don't like to admit our flaws, especially when we have a great deal to lose. I can't say positively that's he's a drug user, just as I can't say that he isn't. I have come to believe that he is abusing some drug though, whether it's truly meth or a prescription that comes up as meth. The only people that truly know are Jeremy and those who may have participated in his drug abuse. Whether they participated in his using, or just by keeping silent about it. We may never know with 100% certainly one way or the other. Whatever the result of any legal action, we will be no close to the truth. Court cases have a tendency exacerbate lies and deception, more than clear them up. Than again, we may one day hear about Jeremy found dead from an overdose somewhere, like we have with many people that appeared functional in their lives. What it really comes down to is this. You can choose to believe that he has a problem or that he doesn't. Either way, you may never see absolute proof for either point of view. So really, he may always be tried in the court of public opinion.
Wang

Raleigh, NC

#6 Jul 21, 2009
Nascartoon wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe some people did witness him doing meth. How many friends have lied for each other about things like this? I'm not sure exactly how you notice someone walking around high. Despite what some of these posters want you to believe, it's not always noticeable. We're not talking about some crackhead living on the street here. Walking around toothless and penniless. We're talking about someone with a career and reputation to protect. Jeremy wouldn't be the first druggie to keep it hidden from general knowledge and he won't be the last. There are people who know about it, but most people won't betray someone close to them by speaking up. We like to believe that we would be different and speak up so he could get the help he needs, but in reality, most of us would keep our mouths shut too. Friends and family hide disturbing behavior on a regular basis, whether it be alcoholism, drug-use, spousal abuse, etc... Don't let these armchair drug experts on here fool you. People are hiding problems like this from every day. They hide it from friends, family and employers for sometimes long periods of time. Why do you think we have drug testing in the workplace? If it was always so obvious, why would it even be needed? Almost everyone denies it vehemently when they get caught too. We don't like to admit our flaws, especially when we have a great deal to lose. I can't say positively that's he's a drug user, just as I can't say that he isn't. I have come to believe that he is abusing some drug though, whether it's truly meth or a prescription that comes up as meth. The only people that truly know are Jeremy and those who may have participated in his drug abuse. Whether they participated in his using, or just by keeping silent about it. We may never know with 100% certainly one way or the other. Whatever the result of any legal action, we will be no close to the truth. Court cases have a tendency exacerbate lies and deception, more than clear them up. Than again, we may one day hear about Jeremy found dead from an overdose somewhere, like we have with many people that appeared functional in their lives. What it really comes down to is this. You can choose to believe that he has a problem or that he doesn't. Either way, you may never see absolute proof for either point of view. So really, he may always be tried in the court of public opinion.
Why don't you go get job. I give you job creaning Polta Wongs. chop chop
Dalesgirl

Cleveland, OH

#7 Jul 21, 2009
In 1988, Nascar asked Richmond to summit to drug testing. Nascar said he tested postive for drugs. And suspended him.(He stopped taking his HIV meds before the test, at that time Nascar didn't know he had contacted aids.) Five days later Nascar rescinded thier position, said it was OTC for colds that tested positive for the 1st test.(Meth?) Tim at his request had another test, which came back clean. Nascar refused to let him drive again. Nascar wanted his Medical Records. Tim filed a $20million lawsuit against Nascar but dropped the suit. He died a year later.
Nascartoon

Canton, MI

#8 Jul 21, 2009
Wang wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you go get job. I give you job creaning Polta Wongs. chop chop
You want to cream my polta. Sorry, I'm not into that sort of thing. I prefer the ladies. I'm sure you'll meet the right person though. Don't give up hope. You keep on striving and that right dude will come along for you. I'm sure he'll let you cream his polta to your little hearts content. Maybe try match.com or one of those other dating sites. Personally, I'm not into them, you know, having contact with other people and all. For a lonely, mama's basement dwelling troll like you though, it may work wonders. Good luck to you. Your going to need it.
Wang

Raleigh, NC

#9 Jul 21, 2009
Nascartoon wrote:
<quoted text>You want to cream my polta. Sorry, I'm not into that sort of thing. I prefer the ladies. I'm sure you'll meet the right person though. Don't give up hope. You keep on striving and that right dude will come along for you. I'm sure he'll let you cream his polta to your little hearts content. Maybe try match.com or one of those other dating sites. Personally, I'm not into them, you know, having contact with other people and all. For a lonely, mama's basement dwelling troll like you though, it may work wonders. Good luck to you. Your going to need it.
Don't you know how to lead engrish? Flom youl rong boling posts, you malginary know how to wlite. Me no wlite about cleam, I said you can crean Polta Wongs, you know, outdool ravolatolies. Youl mind obviousry in guttel. I don't want to know what you and youl mamasan do in youl basement. Now, go realn how to lead and get mind out of guttle. chop chop

“I JUST LOVE RACING!!!”

Since: Jan 07

Kannapolis...EARNHARDT country

#10 Jul 26, 2009
maybe sudafed will sponsor him
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#11 Jul 26, 2009
I do not know why some of the less informed people are making Timmy Richmond/Jeremy Mayfield comparisons. NASCAR was forced into action in the Timmy Richmond case when a large percentage of drivers told NASCAR that due to his physical condition they would refuse to race on the same track with Timmy Richmond. On two occasions Tim was found asleep when it was time for qualification or practice and was very hard to wake up. Timmy was asked for his medical records and refused to supply same and used HIPPA laws as reason not to show them. Timmy was drugged up as a result of being one of the first people treated with the HIV cocktail of drugs that was used at that time and were mostly still in the learning process at the time.

Jeremy, on the other hand, failed a test that was part of an established policy that was in effect in black and white. This policy was there partially because of the Tim Richmond debacle.

As a driver/owner, Jeremy is finished and has said so, the issue now at hand is that there is a boat load of lawyers who either need to make a name or are in search of their 33% and have nothing to lose, just as does Jeremy.

Jeremy needs to take a chill pill, realize his mistakes and attempt to recapture his personal life, instead of allowing these rogue lawyers to drag his name as well as his family name through the mud in search of the almighty tort dollar.

“BOO!!! Ya'll!”

Since: Apr 07

Las Cruces, NM

#12 Jul 27, 2009
Voice of Reality wrote:
I do not know why some of the less informed people are making Timmy Richmond/Jeremy Mayfield comparisons. NASCAR was forced into action in the Timmy Richmond case when a large percentage of drivers told NASCAR that due to his physical condition they would refuse to race on the same track with Timmy Richmond. On two occasions Tim was found asleep when it was time for qualification or practice and was very hard to wake up. Timmy was asked for his medical records and refused to supply same and used HIPPA laws as reason not to show them. Timmy was drugged up as a result of being one of the first people treated with the HIV cocktail of drugs that was used at that time and were mostly still in the learning process at the time.
Jeremy, on the other hand, failed a test that was part of an established policy that was in effect in black and white. This policy was there partially because of the Tim Richmond debacle.
As a driver/owner, Jeremy is finished and has said so, the issue now at hand is that there is a boat load of lawyers who either need to make a name or are in search of their 33% and have nothing to lose, just as does Jeremy.
Jeremy needs to take a chill pill, realize his mistakes and attempt to recapture his personal life, instead of allowing these rogue lawyers to drag his name as well as his family name through the mud in search of the almighty tort dollar.
Have you turned over a new leaf??? You seem to be less condescending in your old age!!! Was it painful??? You just might be a respectable human being, if only you could limit your posts to 16 chapters, lol!!! Seriously, if this is the new POS, I mean VOR, it is a welcome change!!!

I agree with your post 100%!!!
darcyt

AOL

#13 Aug 3, 2009
i have been a jeremy fan for as long as as i've been a fan!!!! i cannot beleive jeremy is drug addict. this has been a nightmare. someone please tell me jeremy is not a meth head & has been set-up
i beleive by everham & france!!!!
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#14 Aug 3, 2009
David Hoover wrote:
Hang in there---Nascar said the same crap about Tim Richmond and NEVER paid him the respect He deserved when the TRUTH came out and ruined His Last year He was able to drive winning 3 races in bad shape. Have never made up there flaw to this day
David you really need to get your facts straight, it was not NASCAR that started the issue with Tim Richmond, it was a large group of drivers who went to NASCAR and stated they would not race on the same track with Tim. He was among the first to have the so called HIV cocktail used on him (various drugs used in combination to fight HIV in a symptomatic way) and he had trouble staying awake. The incident that started the drivers was that I believe it was Darlington when Tim was to qualify nobody could find him and he was later found in the hauler asleep and unable to be wakened to an alert state. Timmy had contracted HIV via a young lady in California and because of the social stigma on the disease at the time he did not wish to divulge reason for his problems. Timmy had a real physical problem that hampered his ability to drive and not until the medications got better regulated was he, once again, capable of driving a race car.
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#15 Aug 3, 2009
mrbreeze wrote:
<quoted text>Have you turned over a new leaf??? You seem to be less condescending in your old age!!! Was it painful??? You just might be a respectable human being, if only you could limit your posts to 16 chapters, lol!!! Seriously, if this is the new POS, I mean VOR, it is a welcome change!!!
I agree with your post 100%!!!
Breeze actually I enjoy the banter, back and forth between people who sometimes agree, sometimes disagree and sometimes get down right ugly in their disagreement. I actually respect you and most of the posters, however, I find the verbal exercise both fun and stimulating in the point, counter point. Insult, counter insult. Keep that greasy side down and the sunny side up and perhaps we will meet one day. By the way, I worked very closely with truckers for 26 years as a cop. No, not a tail light chaser but a criminal investigator and later a community police officer.

Forgive the above second post about Timmy Richmond, I went directly to the last post and forgot that I had already answered on this question.
Rab

Shreveport, LA

#16 Aug 3, 2009
NASCAR had better hope and pray that they can prove their case. If not Jeremy will own NASCAR. Because, if he not guilty as charged. NASCAR has ruined his life.
RedRam

Hagerstown, MD

#17 Aug 4, 2009
Mayfield is not a meth addict.His only problem is he won't shut up.I have met and like the man.Brian france and his lackeys have ruined nascar.Now,for some reason it's time ruin something or someone else. Test that fat p*^#k.

“Smoke Fan Forever!!!”

Since: Sep 07

Look to the Western Sky!!!!

#18 Aug 4, 2009
RedRam wrote:
Mayfield is not a meth addict.His only problem is he won't shut up.I have met and like the man.Brian france and his lackeys have ruined nascar.Now,for some reason it's time ruin something or someone else. Test that fat p*^#k.
'

So because you've met him you know for a FACT that he is NOT a meth addict. Wow.

Now take a look at this:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/04/...

Cameron Douglas. Cyrstal Meth dealer and user. That's a picture of him in April. Does he look like a Meth head?

Reports also say he was very strung out when caught. hmmmm....

Since: Jul 08

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#19 Aug 4, 2009
darcyt wrote:
i have been a jeremy fan for as long as as i've been a fan!!!! i cannot beleive jeremy is drug addict. this has been a nightmare. someone please tell me jeremy is not a meth head & has been set-up
i beleive by everham & france!!!!
I believe he is being shut out because of the negative things he said about Evernham. His affair was exposed and he had to divorce his wife. When Jeremy won the suit against Evernham and they had to pay him his contract in full I think the stage started being set for him to never race again.

Just my opnion.
Doctor

Miami, FL

#20 Aug 4, 2009
All I can say, those blood tests a half hour apart, test totally different, still looking for the answer to that. Also remember, Judge Mullen suggested NASCAR did Mayfield a lot of harm, as a matter of fact, wrecked his life forever.

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