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Keselowski heads list of 2008 most popular drivers

There are 114 comments on the NASCAR Winston Cup Scene story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Keselowski heads list of 2008 most popular drivers. In it, NASCAR Winston Cup Scene reports that:

Saturday night at the final awards banquet of the 2008 season, NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour champion Ted Christopher was also honored as the series' most popular driver.

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“Drive for Five”

Since: Dec 08

Miami Florida

#1 Dec 14, 2008
They got at least one right Johnny Benson! Whoo hoo!
Mary

Richmond, VA

#2 Dec 15, 2008
Lucky Dog 24 wrote:
They got at least one right Johnny Benson! Whoo hoo!
I wonder if Keselowski won because of his affliation with Dale Jr. What do you guys think?

I am real happy JB won most popular driver in the Truck Series. I loved that!

Since: Dec 06

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#3 Dec 15, 2008
Mary wrote:
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I wonder if Keselowski won because of his affliation with Dale Jr. What do you guys think?
I am real happy JB won most popular driver in the Truck Series. I loved that!
He won because he was top driver in the Nationwide series. Some sprint drivers out raced him but no Nationwide drivers......
JayLovex

Covina, CA

#4 Dec 27, 2008
snow wrote:
<quoted text>He won because he was top driver in the Nationwide series. Some sprint drivers out raced him but no Nationwide drivers......
No Nationwide drivers out-raced Brad? HA! Joey Logano out-raced Brad Keselowski! Don't believe me? Look at the statistics from the 19 races they both participated in. Brad's average start: 15.4. Joey's average start: 9.4. Brad's average finish: 10.1. Joey's average finish: 9.2. 11 out of those 19 races, Joey finished better. More than half the time Logano was out-racing Keselowski!

So, saying that Keselowski out-raced all Nationwide drivers is nothing but bull!

Winning WPD doesn't make Brad the top driver, it just means he's more well-known. Well, Brad can keep his popularity award. It's great and all but that's not what matters in this sport. Skill and the ability to get things done matter. Joey has those and maybe that's why he has a Cup ride next year and Keselowski will still be running Nationwide.

Brad only won MPD because his boss is Dale Jr. and Junior nation backs any driver that Junior does, plain and simple.
say what

Houston, TX

#5 Dec 27, 2008
JayLovex wrote:
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No Nationwide drivers out-raced Brad? HA! Joey Logano out-raced Brad Keselowski! Don't believe me? Look at the statistics from the 19 races they both participated in. Brad's average start: 15.4. Joey's average start: 9.4. Brad's average finish: 10.1. Joey's average finish: 9.2. 11 out of those 19 races, Joey finished better. More than half the time Logano was out-racing Keselowski!
So, saying that Keselowski out-raced all Nationwide drivers is nothing but bull!
Winning WPD doesn't make Brad the top driver, it just means he's more well-known. Well, Brad can keep his popularity award. It's great and all but that's not what matters in this sport. Skill and the ability to get things done matter. Joey has those and maybe that's why he has a Cup ride next year and Keselowski will still be running Nationwide.
Brad only won MPD because his boss is Dale Jr. and Junior nation backs any driver that Junior does, plain and simple.
I disagree. Conspiracy theorists are mentally ill.
JayLovex

Covina, CA

#6 Dec 28, 2008
You're free to disagree but stating my opinion, based on my own experience with Junior fans, doesn't make me a conspiracy theorist.

As a matter of fact, I know several people who only root for Brad in Nationwide because Junior is their favorite driver and Brad drives for him.

anderson 24

“Obama Express”

Since: Dec 06

yes we can*health reform**

#7 Dec 28, 2008
JayLovex wrote:
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No Nationwide drivers out-raced Brad? HA! Joey Logano out-raced Brad Keselowski! Don't believe me? Look at the statistics from the 19 races they both participated in. Brad's average start: 15.4. Joey's average start: 9.4. Brad's average finish: 10.1. Joey's average finish: 9.2. 11 out of those 19 races, Joey finished better. More than half the time Logano was out-racing Keselowski!
So, saying that Keselowski out-raced all Nationwide drivers is nothing but bull!
Winning WPD doesn't make Brad the top driver, it just means he's more well-known. Well, Brad can keep his popularity award. It's great and all but that's not what matters in this sport. Skill and the ability to get things done matter. Joey has those and maybe that's why he has a Cup ride next year and Keselowski will still be running Nationwide.
Brad only won MPD because his boss is Dale Jr. and Junior nation backs any driver that Junior does, plain and simple.
and the reason logono won more or whatever' he was in a cheating car all the time.
brad won fair an square hes awesome an you know it .
as far as joey getting a cup ride' lmao''''''
brad is also going to be in a lot of cup rides in 09....

99 Lisa 18

“Kyle get it together! ”

Since: Oct 08

Carlsville

#8 Dec 28, 2008
anderson 24 wrote:
<quoted text>and the reason logono won more or whatever' he was in a cheating car all the time.
brad won fair an square hes awesome an you know it .
as far as joey getting a cup ride' lmao''''''
brad is also going to be in a lot of cup rides in 09....
Now Andy, Joey did not cheat when he won his race.

Since: Dec 06

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#9 Dec 28, 2008
JayLovex wrote:
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No Nationwide drivers out-raced Brad? HA! Joey Logano out-raced Brad Keselowski! Don't believe me? Look at the statistics from the 19 races they both participated in. Brad's average start: 15.4. Joey's average start: 9.4. Brad's average finish: 10.1. Joey's average finish: 9.2. 11 out of those 19 races, Joey finished better. More than half the time Logano was out-racing Keselowski!
So, saying that Keselowski out-raced all Nationwide drivers is nothing but bull!
Winning WPD doesn't make Brad the top driver, it just means he's more well-known. Well, Brad can keep his popularity award. It's great and all but that's not what matters in this sport. Skill and the ability to get things done matter. Joey has those and maybe that's why he has a Cup ride next year and Keselowski will still be running Nationwide.
Brad only won MPD because his boss is Dale Jr. and Junior nation backs any driver that Junior does, plain and simple.
I was talking about the non cheating Nationwide drivers....
The ones that didn't use Magnets to hide the horsepower.... Understand......The only reason Joey got a cup ride so soon was because Tony was
leaving.....

99 Lisa 18

“Kyle get it together! ”

Since: Oct 08

Carlsville

#10 Dec 28, 2008
snow wrote:
<quoted text>I was talking about the non cheating Nationwide drivers....
The ones that didn't use Magnets to hide the horsepower.... Understand......The only reason Joey got a cup ride so soon was because Tony was
leaving.....
Even with the reduced horsepower Kyle still managed to win. That tells me it's the driver, not the car.
Voice of Reality

Colonial Heights, VA

#11 Dec 28, 2008
snow wrote:
<quoted text>I was talking about the non cheating Nationwide drivers....
The ones that didn't use Magnets to hide the horsepower.... Understand......The only reason Joey got a cup ride so soon was because Tony was
leaving.....
Snow, I disagree with you 100% the fact that the magnets were found is no sign of anybody cheating. Fact is that NASCAR, in their ultimate wisdom allowed Toyota to use the updated engine in the 08 Nation Wide Series and the Toyota engineers made the most of the engine. The other teams went to NASCAR with big alligator tears and complaints about the advantage (through legal hard work) the Yota teams had, so, NASCAR made changes to take away some of the advantage. Now, fast forward a month and the yota teams are still winning and the chevy boys turn the alligator tears on, once again. NASCAR wants to, once again, reduce the yota HP and the yota teams were fed up with the pandering NASCAR idiots. They did in fact use the magnets (an old time trick that has been used more than once) and got caught. Big friggin deal, once again NASCAR bends to the Hendrick and Roush Gods and gets a tasty kiss of their butts. The yota teams did nothing wrong, they built engines by the rules put down by NASCAR in the beginning of the year and were too good, ergo NASCAR was the one who changed the rules and placed road blocks in front of the yota teams, not the other way around. People face it, in unrestricted competition the so called Big Three can not keep up with the yotas, either on the track or the show room. I say, F the big three, let them go under.
JayLovex

Covina, CA

#12 Dec 28, 2008
snow wrote:
<quoted text>I was talking about the non cheating Nationwide drivers....
The ones that didn't use Magnets to hide the horsepower.... Understand......The only reason Joey got a cup ride so soon was because Tony was
leaving.....
For your information, not one of the drivers at JGR are cheaters, especially not Joey. Just because a few of their crew members decided to do something stupid during a test because they were pissed off about NASCAR reducing their horse power, doesn't mean that the drivers are cheaters, especially since they had no idea the magnets were being used.

Also, Joey did not get the Cup ride just because Tony is leaving. There were plenty of drivers that needed a ride in '09. But Gibbs chose Joey because he knows Joey is very talented.

Logano would not be in a Cup ride if Gibbs didn't think he was ready for it and if Gibbs didn't think he has what it takes.
JayLovex

Covina, CA

#13 Dec 28, 2008
anderson 24 wrote:
<quoted text>and the reason logono won more or whatever' he was in a cheating car all the time.
brad won fair an square hes awesome an you know it .
as far as joey getting a cup ride' lmao''''''
brad is also going to be in a lot of cup rides in 09....
First off, it's spelled L-o-g-a-n-o, not logono.

Second, just as I stated in the post above, Joey won fair and square. He was not in a cheating car. Making legal use of their engines is not cheating. It's not Joey's fault that Toyota's engines get more horse power.

Third, Brad is not "awesome"; he's average. I don't hear him being called a phenom, like another driver I know of.

Finally, "awesome" drivers do not race other drivers hard under CAUTION. They also think before PURPOSELY running into another driver because "awesome" drivers know that the driver they hit will be pissed off and will retaliate.(Brad hitting Denny at Lowe's back in May, then driving up next to Denny thinking that he isn't going to be pissed off).
JayLovex

Covina, CA

#14 Dec 28, 2008
Voice of Reality wrote:
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Snow, I disagree with you 100% the fact that the magnets were found is no sign of anybody cheating. Fact is that NASCAR, in their ultimate wisdom allowed Toyota to use the updated engine in the 08 Nation Wide Series and the Toyota engineers made the most of the engine. The other teams went to NASCAR with big alligator tears and complaints about the advantage (through legal hard work) the Yota teams had, so, NASCAR made changes to take away some of the advantage. Now, fast forward a month and the yota teams are still winning and the chevy boys turn the alligator tears on, once again. NASCAR wants to, once again, reduce the yota HP and the yota teams were fed up with the pandering NASCAR idiots. They did in fact use the magnets (an old time trick that has been used more than once) and got caught. Big friggin deal, once again NASCAR bends to the Hendrick and Roush Gods and gets a tasty kiss of their butts. The yota teams did nothing wrong, they built engines by the rules put down by NASCAR in the beginning of the year and were too good, ergo NASCAR was the one who changed the rules and placed road blocks in front of the yota teams, not the other way around. People face it, in unrestricted competition the so called Big Three can not keep up with the yotas, either on the track or the show room. I say, F the big three, let them go under.
THANK YOU!:)

Took the words right out of my mouth.
lolz

Secaucus, NJ

#15 Dec 28, 2008
JayLovex wrote:
<quoted text>
For your information, not one of the drivers at JGR are cheaters, especially not Joey. Just because a few of their crew members decided to do something stupid during a test because they were pissed off about NASCAR reducing their horse power, doesn't mean that the drivers are cheaters, especially since they had no idea the magnets were being used.
Also, Joey did not get the Cup ride just because Tony is leaving. There were plenty of drivers that needed a ride in '09. But Gibbs chose Joey because he knows Joey is very talented.
Logano would not be in a Cup ride if Gibbs didn't think he was ready for it and if Gibbs didn't think he has what it takes.
snow got pregnant at 12 don't expect to much from her

Since: Jul 08

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#16 Dec 28, 2008
JayLovex wrote:
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No Nationwide drivers out-raced Brad? HA! Joey Logano out-raced Brad Keselowski! Don't believe me? Look at the statistics from the 19 races they both participated in. Brad's average start: 15.4. Joey's average start: 9.4. Brad's average finish: 10.1. Joey's average finish: 9.2. 11 out of those 19 races, Joey finished better. More than half the time Logano was out-racing Keselowski!
So, saying that Keselowski out-raced all Nationwide drivers is nothing but bull!
Winning WPD doesn't make Brad the top driver, it just means he's more well-known. Well, Brad can keep his popularity award. It's great and all but that's not what matters in this sport. Skill and the ability to get things done matter. Joey has those and maybe that's why he has a Cup ride next year and Keselowski will still be running Nationwide.
Brad only won MPD because his boss is Dale Jr. and Junior nation backs any driver that Junior does, plain and simple.
How about their cup statistics?
They both ran the fall Texas race.......

Brad started 37th and finsihed 19th. Joey started 43rd and finished 40th. Ouch. Brad finished 23rd in his other cup race this year. I don't remember all the races Joey ran, but Brad's cup finishes are way better then Joey's. So, you hang your hat on Joey's Nationwide starts being better then Brad's. I will pay attention to what really matters. The cup side of things.
JayLovex

Covina, CA

#17 Dec 28, 2008
Dew Addict wrote:
<quoted text>
How about their cup statistics?
They both ran the fall Texas race.......
Brad started 37th and finsihed 19th. Joey started 43rd and finished 40th. Ouch. Brad finished 23rd in his other cup race this year. I don't remember all the races Joey ran, but Brad's cup finishes are way better then Joey's. So, you hang your hat on Joey's Nationwide starts being better then Brad's. I will pay attention to what really matters. The cup side of things.
The person I quoted stated that Brad was the top driver in Nationwide. That was a false statement which I corrected with those Nationwide statistics.

I didn't speak a word about Cup statistics because that wasn't the subject matter.

As far as Cup statistics go though, I heard several times during that weekend of the Talladega race that they just couldn't get the car right, which is why he finished poorly. Not like that hasn't happened to some of the best before. Everyone has a bad race once in a while.

Yes, it is mostly about the driver's ability but having a spot-on setup helps too.

The other two Cup races he participated in were in the 96, second-rate Gibbs equipment that not even veteran drivers can keep in the top 35 in points. Enough said.

However, Keselowski was in top notch Hendrick equipment the entire time, so of course he did better on the Cup side.

Joey'll do better in Cup next year when he's in the 20.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#18 Dec 29, 2008
JayLovex wrote:
<quoted text>
The person I quoted stated that Brad was the top driver in Nationwide. That was a false statement which I corrected with those Nationwide statistics.
I didn't speak a word about Cup statistics because that wasn't the subject matter.
As far as Cup statistics go though, I heard several times during that weekend of the Talladega race that they just couldn't get the car right, which is why he finished poorly. Not like that hasn't happened to some of the best before. Everyone has a bad race once in a while.
Yes, it is mostly about the driver's ability but having a spot-on setup helps too.
The other two Cup races he participated in were in the 96, second-rate Gibbs equipment that not even veteran drivers can keep in the top 35 in points. Enough said.
However, Keselowski was in top notch Hendrick equipment the entire time, so of course he did better on the Cup side.
Joey'll do better in Cup next year when he's in the 20.
Brad still finished 3rd so what's the complaint......Think every one is pissed because he drives for Jr..He did finish his year ahead of the other nationwide drivers. I could care less how many races Stale Bread run. He will need to prove himself for sure in the 20 car...

Since: Dec 06

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#19 Dec 29, 2008
Voice of Reality wrote:
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Snow, I disagree with you 100% the fact that the magnets were found is no sign of anybody cheating. Fact is that NASCAR, in their ultimate wisdom allowed Toyota to use the updated engine in the 08 Nation Wide Series and the Toyota engineers made the most of the engine. The other teams went to NASCAR with big alligator tears and complaints about the advantage (through legal hard work) the Yota teams had, so, NASCAR made changes to take away some of the advantage. Now, fast forward a month and the yota teams are still winning and the chevy boys turn the alligator tears on, once again. NASCAR wants to, once again, reduce the yota HP and the yota teams were fed up with the pandering NASCAR idiots. They did in fact use the magnets (an old time trick that has been used more than once) and got caught. Big friggin deal, once again NASCAR bends to the Hendrick and Roush Gods and gets a tasty kiss of their butts. The yota teams did nothing wrong, they built engines by the rules put down by NASCAR in the beginning of the year and were too good, ergo NASCAR was the one who changed the rules and placed road blocks in front of the yota teams, not the other way around. People face it, in unrestricted competition the so called Big Three can not keep up with the yotas, either on the track or the show room. I say, F the big three, let them go under.
Whatever. Can't figure out why Nascar went after them with points and getting rid of the Crew Chiefs..If it was legal they should have turned their head....

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#20 Dec 29, 2008
lolz wrote:
<quoted text>snow got pregnant at 12 don't expect to much from her
Snow is not in your family...You got me mixed with them...

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