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[Jimmie cheats]

Why were crew members from all the hendrix teams allowed to work on Jimmies car? That's bullsyt.

[YouTube Boy]

Jimmie cheats wrote:

Why were crew members from all the hendrix teams allowed to work on Jimmies car? That's bullsyt.

I 'think' each team has the authority to deny them help but there's no rule saying they're not allowed to. It's not the first time teams have buddied up in a crisis situation and it won't be the last.

[Yvonne]

Jimmie cheats wrote:

Why were crew members from all the hendrix teams allowed to work on Jimmies car? That's bullsyt.

Rick Hendrick probably *encouraged* it. I had the same thought as you though when I read that....if I was one of the other drivers on the team, I'd be like, "Say what?" lol I totally forgot the race was on. I got so caught up in football. Two weeks in a row I've forgotten NASCAR because of football. Part of it last week was we went to a live NFL game.

[Whoyakidding]

Jimmie cheats wrote:

Why were crew members from all the hendrix teams allowed to work on Jimmies car? That's bullsyt.

Because NASCAR doesn't regulate who works on the car in garage like they do in the pits. They were all HMS employees, what's the big deal?

[YouTube Boy]

Yvonne wrote:

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Rick Hendrick probably *encouraged* it. I had the same thought as you though when I read that....if I was one of the other drivers on the team, I'd be like, "Say what?" lol I totally forgot the race was on. I got so caught up in football. Two weeks in a row I've forgotten NASCAR because of football. Part of it last week was we went to a live NFL game.

Hiya Yvonne in AZ. My mom followed her best friend by that name to AZ a long while back.

I agree Hendrick might have encouraged it but it's probably a scenario they discussed before any big deal incidences occur. Kinda like "you guys compete out on the track and in the pits, but back in the garage area, I expect MY teams to work together. If any of MY teams can help another one of MY teams... and expect these favors to be returned should the other team some day need a hand..."

I wonder though - because it was not actually the fault of the #48 team? I mean if Jimmie was ASKING for it, maybe things would have been different.

[oh yes health reform]

Jimmie cheats wrote:

Why were crew members from all the hendrix teams allowed to work on Jimmies car? That's bullsyt.

where you been for all these nascar years.
the team members always help each other.
by the way' change your name.
now ya can see why the 48 an crew are true champions.

[oh yes health reform]

Yvonne wrote:

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Rick Hendrick probably *encouraged* it. I had the same thought as you though when I read that....if I was one of the other drivers on the team, I'd be like, "Say what?" lol I totally forgot the race was on. I got so caught up in football. Two weeks in a row I've forgotten NASCAR because of football. Part of it last week was we went to a live NFL game.

good for you' nascar is not for your kind anyway.
go hms''''''''

[JimmyDaGreek]

Jimmie cheats wrote:

Why were crew members from all the hendrix teams allowed to work on Jimmies car? That's bullsyt.

lol - I agree, what a crock.

[JimmyDaGreek]

Whoyakidding wrote:

<quoted text>Because NASCAR doesn't regulate who works on the car in garage like they do in the pits. They were all HMS employees, what's the big deal?

I guess the big deal is that it's an unfair advantage to the other teams that wouldn't have the extra bodies jumping in to help if they where in the same situation. You are just playing dumb - stop it.

[YouTube Boy]

JimmyDaGreek wrote:

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I guess the big deal is that it's an unfair advantage to the other teams that wouldn't have the extra bodies jumping in to help if they where in the same situation. You are just playing dumb - stop it.

By that logic, it was already a big deal if Hendrick could have 400 employees back home building cars instead of the limited number that other teams might have. NASCAR draws the line at how many people go over the wall, and I think they should limit the number of hands are allowed in the garage as well. If that is not the case, then its up to the teams to set things up so they don't have a disadvantage in fixing cars. Same thing with car parts - some teams just don't have replacement parts either.

If you want to win championships, you have to be ready for every predictable situation that might come your way. That early in the race, with the possibility of gaining even a few positions, a HMS car would have to be snapped in half before they call it a day. LOL

Yeah it seems unfair but HMS sets the standard for being able to accommodate for worst-case scenarios.

[Susanne]

Sounds like an unfair advantage to me.

[The Fat and the Furious]

This kind of stuff is what makes Hendrick such a strong organization. These guys work together throughout the whole year to make everyone on each team better. Plus, for those of you who don't know, the guys working on that car, for the most part, were the same guys who worked on it all week to get ready for the race. The 48 & 24 share a garage and the same group of guys works on both cars, so those guys have a stake in what happens with Jeff and Jimmie at every race. It wasn't pit crew members from the 24 and 88 over there, it was the guys who handle these cars from Monday to Sunday.

This is nothing new anyway. All the teams who have the personnel will utilize them, especially with a championship on the line.

It's a give and take in the Hendrick organization. They've emphasized this kind of team work for a long time and it's helped put HMS where it is today. There's a reason those guys are sitting 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the points.

You don't have to like it, but if you don't see the benefit in it, than you may want to have an eye exam, because your going to need some Coke bottle lenses.

If Nascar ever changes the policy on this, than that will be that. Until than though, any team who has the resources and doesn't use them, deserves the consequences of that decision.

[Whoyakidding]

JimmyDaGreek wrote:

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I guess the big deal is that it's an unfair advantage to the other teams that wouldn't have the extra bodies jumping in to help if they where in the same situation. You are just playing dumb - stop it.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, just trying to truthfully answer your question. I've spend many races in the pits over the years and have seen plenty of occasions when a single car team had a mishap and took their car to the pits. Mechanics from other teams would jump in and help them get their car repaired. I've seen teams that were competing for a position help each other, that's just the way they are. I've seen a lot of teams give other teams parts to get them back in a race. Richard Childress is the best in the business for helping other teams in the gargage.

[WWE NASCAR]

Whoyakidding wrote:

<quoted text>I'm not trying to be a smartass, just trying to truthfully answer your question. I've spend many races in the pits over the years and have seen plenty of occasions when a single car team had a mishap and took their car to the pits. Mechanics from other teams would jump in and help them get their car repaired. I've seen teams that were competing for a position help each other, that's just the way they are. I've seen a lot of teams give other teams parts to get them back in a race. Richard Childress is the best in the business for helping other teams in the gargage.

It's just another one of those things, a long with the rubber rule book, that make NASCAR not a true competitive sport; the WWE of Motorsports.

[Whoyakidding]

YouTube Boy wrote:

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By that logic, it was already a big deal if Hendrick could have 400 employees back home building cars instead of the limited number that other teams might have. NASCAR draws the line at how many people go over the wall, and I think they should limit the number of hands are allowed in the garage as well. If that is not the case, then its up to the teams to set things up so they don't have a disadvantage in fixing cars. Same thing with car parts - some teams just don't have replacement parts either.
If you want to win championships, you have to be ready for every predictable situation that might come your way. That early in the race, with the possibility of gaining even a few positions, a HMS car would have to be snapped in half before they call it a day. LOL
Yeah it seems unfair but HMS sets thIf you want to win championshipse standard for being able to accommodate for worst-case scenarios.

I think the key phrase in your post is "If you want to win championships". Winning a championship is the dream of every team that brings a car to a race BUT the majority of these people understand from the start that isn't going to happen. They don't come to the track feeling that everything that happens to them is unfair because some other teams have more resources. They come to the track with about the same attitude that ant had about moving the rubber tree plant. Over the years I've seen teams pull transmissions, rear ends, front suspensions, you name it, out of there hauler and give it to another team to fix their car and send what free help they to had to assist. This one of the wonderful things about NASCAR that most people don't get to see. Behind that pitroad, these people are friends and lookout for each other even when they're not on the same team and NASCAR doesn't need to stick it's nose in it.

[YouTube Boy]

The Fat and the Furious wrote:

This kind of stuff is what makes Hendrick such a strong organization. These guys work together throughout the whole year to make everyone on each team better. Plus, for those of you who don't know, the guys working on that car, for the most part, were the same guys who worked on it all week to get ready for the race. The 48 & 24 share a garage and the same group of guys works on both cars, so those guys have a stake in what happens with Jeff and Jimmie at every race. It wasn't pit crew members from the 24 and 88 over there, it was the guys who handle these cars from Monday to Sunday.
This is nothing new anyway. All the teams who have the personnel will utilize them, especially with a championship on the line.
It's a give and take in the Hendrick organization. They've emphasized this kind of team work for a long time and it's helped put HMS where it is today. There's a reason those guys are sitting 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the points.
You don't have to like it, but if you don't see the benefit in it, than you may want to have an eye exam, because your going to need some Coke bottle lenses.
If Nascar ever changes the policy on this, than that will be that. Until than though, any team who has the resources and doesn't use them, deserves the consequences of that decision.

"applaudes" perfect logic. The only thing unfair is what other teams do to them self. lol

[YouTube Boy]

Whoyakidding wrote:

<quoted text> Over the years I've seen teams pull transmissions, rear ends, front suspensions, you name it, out of there hauler and give it to another team to fix their car and send what free help they to had to assist. This one of the wonderful things about NASCAR that most people don't get to see.

I've seen it. I googled around for teams helping opponents stuff and came up with nadda. But I know how they are - they want to beat their opponents on the track, straight up. Also - and this is just my opinion - if it were me and the 48 team weren't already pretty capable of handling it, I'd jump at the chance to do that team a favor. It cant hurt to earn karma credits from the best team out there. Favors that make a difference get great returns when its your own team that needs some help. LOL