More immigrants getting licenses in Wash. says AP survey

Aug 13, 2010 Full story: KING-TV Seattle 8

Carlos Hernandez packed up his family and left Arizona after the state passed its sweeping immigration crackdown.

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an american

Tallahassee, FL

#1 Aug 13, 2010
Time bomb!! AA
Ralff

Coldwater, MI

#2 Aug 13, 2010
"More immigrants getting licenses in Wash. says AP survey". That great! I am so glad that they are learning to drive and assimilating.

Oh wait, they are talking about illegal aliens. That is shameful to allow that, aiding and abetting actually.

Headlines are wrong. The article is about illegal aliens.
Exactly

United States

#3 Aug 13, 2010
And I'm sure the little darlings are also paying for auto insurance? What a fricking fraud against U.S. Citizens.
Tell it like it is

Benson, AZ

#4 Aug 13, 2010
No one illegal should get a license. These states will soon regret that decision.
Derek

Santa Clarita, CA

#5 Aug 13, 2010
Illegal aliens are not immigrants. They're criminals violating our national soverignty.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#7 Aug 14, 2010
License To Drive While Unlicensed
by Debra J. Saunders

Mayor Gavin Newsom's office has argued that San Francisco's "sanctuary city"
policy protects undocumented immigrants who are otherwise law-abiding
residents.

But as The Chronicle's Phil Matier and Andrew Ross reported Monday, San
Francisco has a new policy starting on Nov. 1 that prevents city cops from
automatically impounding cars driven by giving never-licensed drivers 20
minutes to find someone with a valid license to drive their car. Only if an
unlicensed driver is caught again within six months, is there an automatic
30-day impound, which can cost around $2,500.

So otherwise law-abiding residents now refers to people who only violate
federal immigration law and the state law that requires that drivers have
valid licenses.(And auto insurance.)

Consider it a sop to the pro-illegal immigrant lobby, which has been angered
by the Newsom decision to allow SFPD to notify federal immigration officials
when illegal immigrant juveniles are arrested on felony charges. After all,
Newsom is running for governor.

"We recognize that this is a problem within the Hispanic community, where
people working here can't get a driver's license because of their
immigration status," Police Chief George Gascon told Matier and Ross.

Gascon told me that the new policy should not be confused with a
get-out-of-jail free card. Unlicensed drivers will be cited and subject to
fine. "We're stopping them from driving. We're replacing a licensed and
uninsured driver with a licensed and insured driver," said the chief.

Except that they'll be letting unlicensed drivers keep their cars -- after
they have been chauffeured home by a licensed pal.

Gascon also argued that the new policy should discourage unlicensed drivers
from fleeing the scene of an accident. He also believes that locals will buy
better vehicles -- not "throwaway cars" -- if they believe they can keep
them.

Great. Now cross your fingers and hope that you aren't in an accident with
an unlicensed driver. The AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety updated its
study of fatal accidents last year and found that from 2001 through 2005, 20
percent of fatal car crashes involved one or more unlicensed or improperly
licensed drivers. In California, 29 percent of fatal crashes involved an
unlicensed or invalidly licensed driver. Now, 1,964 those drivers had their
licenses suspended or revoked, but 1,802 were simply unlicensed, while 1,200
were unknown -- which often means they fled the scene. Those folks should
not have been behind the wheel.

Gascon asserts that the new policy "has nothing to do with immigration per
se" -- as it also could apply to people who can't afford to get a license or
undergo driver training. "It's a much broader population."

OK, but there is another "broader" population -- people who ride the bus. If
this were the desert, you might understand the argument that people need
their cars to get to work. But this is San Francisco -- with BART, cable
cars and Muni. If Newsom and company don't think people without licenses
should be limited to the bus, then why spend more than $700 million on
public transit each year?

Talk to City Hall about how expensive it is to park, and city solons will
tell you there is no right to drive. But if you break federal immigration
law, they'll work on it.
Ralff

Coldwater, MI

#8 Aug 14, 2010
Cricket 23 wrote:
License To Drive While Unlicensed
by Debra J. Saunders
Mayor Gavin Newsom's office has argued that San Francisco's "sanctuary city"
policy protects undocumented immigrants who are otherwise law-abiding
residents.
But as The Chronicle's Phil Matier and Andrew Ross reported Monday, San
Francisco has a new policy starting on Nov. 1 that prevents city cops from
automatically impounding cars driven by giving never-licensed drivers 20
minutes to find someone with a valid license to drive their car. Only if an
unlicensed driver is caught again within six months, is there an automatic
30-day impound, which can cost around $2,500.
So otherwise law-abiding residents now refers to people who only violate
federal immigration law and the state law that requires that drivers have
valid licenses.
Gee, wasn't Nixon was law abiding other than that one little Watergate felony?
Common Sense

Seneca, IL

#9 Aug 14, 2010
Cricket 23 wrote:
License To Drive While Unlicensed
by Debra J. Saunders
Mayor Gavin Newsom's office has argued that San Francisco's "sanctuary city"
policy protects undocumented immigrants who are otherwise law-abiding
residents.
But as The Chronicle's Phil Matier and Andrew Ross reported Monday, San
Francisco has a new policy starting on Nov. 1 that prevents city cops from
automatically impounding cars driven by giving never-licensed drivers 20
minutes to find someone with a valid license to drive their car. Only if an
unlicensed driver is caught again within six months, is there an automatic
30-day impound, which can cost around $2,500.
So otherwise law-abiding residents now refers to people who only violate
federal immigration law and the state law that requires that drivers have
valid licenses.(And auto insurance.)
Consider it a sop to the pro-illegal immigrant lobby, which has been angered
by the Newsom decision to allow SFPD to notify federal immigration officials
when illegal immigrant juveniles are arrested on felony charges. After all,
Newsom is running for governor.
"We recognize that this is a problem within the Hispanic community, where
people working here can't get a driver's license because of their
immigration status," Police Chief George Gascon told Matier and Ross.
Gascon told me that the new policy should not be confused with a
get-out-of-jail free card. Unlicensed drivers will be cited and subject to
fine. "We're stopping them from driving. We're replacing a licensed and
uninsured driver with a licensed and insured driver," said the chief.
Except that they'll be letting unlicensed drivers keep their cars -- after
they have been chauffeured home by a licensed pal.
Gascon also argued that the new policy should discourage unlicensed drivers
from fleeing the scene of an accident. He also believes that locals will buy
better vehicles -- not "throwaway cars" -- if they believe they can keep
them.
Great. Now cross your fingers and hope that you aren't in an accident with
an unlicensed driver. The AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety updated its
study of fatal accidents last year and found that from 2001 through 2005, 20
percent of fatal car crashes involved one or more unlicensed or improperly
licensed drivers. In California, 29 percent of fatal crashes involved an
unlicensed or invalidly licensed driver. Now, 1,964 those drivers had their
licenses suspended or revoked, but 1,802 were simply unlicensed, while 1,200
were unknown -- which often means they fled the scene. Those folks should
not have been behind the wheel.
Gascon asserts that the new policy "has nothing to do with immigration per
se" -- as it also could apply to people who can't afford to get a license or
undergo driver training. "It's a much broader population."
OK, but there is another "broader" population -- people who ride the bus. If
this were the desert, you might understand the argument that people need
their cars to get to work. But this is San Francisco -- with BART, cable
cars and Muni. If Newsom and company don't think people without licenses
should be limited to the bus, then why spend more than $700 million on
public transit each year?
Talk to City Hall about how expensive it is to park, and city solons will
tell you there is no right to drive. But if you break federal immigration
law, they'll work on it.
There is an exodus by illegals from arizona to new mexico ,Washington state, and other places where they allow you to get a drivers license without being a citizen. Its time to close the loopholes in those states.Write your local congressmen and women.

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