a Birthright citizenship' under attack

a Birthright citizenship' under attack

There are 12 comments on the Bend Bulletin story from Mar 9, 2011, titled a Birthright citizenship' under attack. In it, Bend Bulletin reports that:

Twelve years ago, Lizbeth Ramos and her common-law husband, Juan, left their hometown near Puebla, Mexico, and set out on foot for the Arizona border, to slip into new lives as illegal immigrants.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Bend Bulletin.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#1 Mar 9, 2011
(CBS) It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts is with
a woman who is nine months pregnant. She's rushed to a south Texas hospital
to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure that won't cost her a
dime. She qualifies for emergency Medicaid.

She gave birth to a healthy, 8 1/2 pound baby boy - born in America. His
Mexican mother gave him an American name: Eliot.

Eliot is one of an estimated 300,000 children of illegal immigrants born in
the United States every year, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. They're
given instant citizenship because they are born on U.S. soil, which makes it
easier for their parents to become U.S. citizens.

That's because those babies can eventually sponsor their parents - when they
turn 21 years old.

As for Eliot's mother, no longer as fearful of deportation, she told CBS
News her name, Fabiola, and her story.

"So your son is an American citizen. What does that mean to you?" Pitts

"I am very glad that he was born. That's why I came here - so my children,
my husband and I could have a better life," she said through a translator.

Back in December, when she was six months pregnant, Fabiola, her husband and
their two daughters - ages 4 and 11 - crossed the Rio Grande from Mexico
into the U.S.

Once on the other side of the river they walked for two hours in search of a
better life and free medical care for their unborn child.

"Do many women in Mexico make the choice to have their children in the
United States?" Pitts asked.

"Yes," she said through a translator. "I know people who have done that.
Things are much better here in the U.S. because they help children so much

It's a "better" life ... that American taxpayers help pay for.

Take healthcare for example -- an estimated $1.1 billion per year for
undocumented men, women and children, according to the Rand Corporation.

Joe Riley is the CEO of the McAllen Texas Medical Center near the
Texas-Mexico border. Forty percent of the children born there, nearly 2,400
last year, were the babies of illegal immigrants.

Riley has seen and heard it all.

"Mothers about to give birth that walk up to the hospital still wet from
swimming across the river in actual labor . dirty, wet, cold," he said.

But here to have a child?

"Here to have a child in the U.S.," he said.

McAllen is part of a large hospital system. Like all hospitals, it is
mandated by law to treat all emergency-room patients, not verify

"We have uncompensated care of over $200 million a year," Riley said.

"Of money that you'll never see again?" Pitts asked.

"Yes," he said.

Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said: "It is not fair to the taxpayers who have
to foot the bill."

Congress has all but given up on comprehensive immigration reform. But
lawmakers like Smith want to solve birth citizenship to illegal immigrants,
in part by challenging the 14th Amendment, which guarantees U.S. citizenship
to any child born in America.

"It seems fundamentally wrong that we ought to give the greatest honor of
their citizenship," Smith said. "His or her mother came across the border

Many Americans who struggle to take care of their own families think it is
unfair that they should take care of a family and they are not U.S.

"I don't understand the resentment," said. "I know that God will help them,

That's what Fabiola's doing for young Eliot. Relying on her faith, her
family . and the U.S. government.


“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#2 Mar 9, 2011
The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Pennsylvanians

Pennsylvania has a rapidly growing illegal alien population of about 140,000
persons, nearly tripling since 2000.1 Between 2000 and 2008, the state's
foreign-born population has grown by 34.5 percent while its native-born
population has decreased by 0.1 percent. Similarly, public school enrollment
of students who require special instruction in English has also soared,
rising by 187 percent from 1993 to 2006.

Pennsylvania's illegal alien population represents a major burden on the
state's taxpayers and on the state budget. The costs imposed on law-abiding
Pennsylvanians are unfair and unwelcome even in the best of times, but are
especially burdensome at a time when the state ended the 2008-09 Fiscal Year
with a $3.25 billion revenue deficit which has led to a proposed three-year
temporary increase of one-half percent in the state's personal income tax.
In 2008, the foreign-born population in Pennsylvania represented nearly one
in every 18 residents (5.5%), and illegal aliens constitute about one-third
(34%) of that immigrant population.

Pennsylvania's illegal immigrant population costs the state's taxpayers
about $728 million per year for education, medical care and incarceration.
The annual fiscal burden amounts to about $150 per Pennsylvania household
headed by a native-born resident.

In addition to the fiscal cost estimates in this study, there are additional
costs associated with illegal immigration that should be kept in mind by
policymakers when they focus on this fiscal cost burden. Foreign remittances
sent abroad by the illegal alien population also constitute a major drain on
the state's economy. The Inter-American Development Bank estimated that
remittances from Pennsylvania just to Latin America and the Caribbean
amounted to $517 million in 2006. If this amount had been earned by American
workers, it would have been spent locally, and it would have generated
sales, production and jobs in the state as well as increased tax collection.


Garden Grove, CA

#3 Mar 9, 2011
spam alert by cricket!
God bless USA

United States

#4 Mar 9, 2011
The only reason the illegals are allowed to be here is profit! Profit for the business they work for, simple free market condition, imagine you are owner of construction company in the summer heat who you would hire? Or you are the owner of meat processing plant who would you hire? Or you own landscaping business... So they ( some politicians ) makes believe that the immigrants are the reason for the downturn of the states income ? Is exactly the opposite ! Without immigrant labor any producing factory would move out of the US it is happening don't tell me you don't see it! So about the bankruptcy of the states simple economics, the main revenue for the states budgets is sales and real estate taxes! Yes or no? So without the foreign hardworking community which is about 40 million immagine what would happen to those revenues and the housing market ( rental or to own )! Any politician proposing something for deportation or something for that 40 million community is clearly thinking for his own future being reelected ! In the USA you buy house for 100 grand but you owe to the banks 350 000 you buy a car for 30 000 but in 5 years you owe 40 000 and when you deceide to sell it it cost 5000$ there are the real crimes thiefs and parasites! not the hardworking 6,50$ an hour fruit pickers from our agriculture fields ! Admitt it !Well that's the free market Americans are choosing foreigners here and if they are afraight to do it here they move all the office to India ! That is why when you call your bank Indian from India is answering! Is this what we want? The us busines moving abroad because this illegal nonsense ?

Allentown, PA

#5 Mar 9, 2011
It's the righties version of ethnic cleansing, 2011. Why don't Repukelicans go after businesses that are hiring/employing illegals, with as much gusto?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#6 Mar 9, 2011
spam alert by cricket!
The truth hurts

Whitehall, PA

#8 Mar 9, 2011
I don't have a problem with streamlining immigration and making sure only those who are here to work are allowed to stay. If you come here hoping to live off the fat of the land then you should be kicked out regardless of if your baby was born here. In fact why can't we deport all of the useless American citizens that refuse to work and contribute nothing to society?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#9 Mar 9, 2011
Drew wrote:
I don't have a problem with streamlining immigration and making sure only those who are here to work are allowed to stay. If you come here hoping to live off the fat of the land then you should be kicked out regardless of if your baby was born here. In fact why can't we deport all of the useless American citizens that refuse to work and contribute nothing to society?
Here's an idea, how about boycott businesses that hire illegals. One known offender is McDonalds, yet I see fat Americans stuffing their face with a Big Mac everyday.

America is hooked on cheap labor but all they do is whine and cry "send them back"... pathetic
Lee AZ

Mesa, AZ

#10 Mar 9, 2011
is this the same goverment that blew away the back of jacks head, that Elvis realy walked gaurd duty,
suported the bay of pigs and ran away lost vietnam korea, 10 years in Iraq , and now want to do fly overs in Lybia ? wake up we cannt trust them lets
get rid of them 2012

Lee AZ

Baltimore, MD

#11 Mar 9, 2011
Sorry libs, good people everywhere are rejecting the birthright idea. It was not meant to work against us or benefit foreigners. This would not even be a topic if illegal aliens weren't eating us out of house and home, as well as breaking many laws as if they were immune from prosecution or public ridicule.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#12 Mar 10, 2011
spam alert by cricket!
Cricket chirping

&fe ature=related

California's Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers Nearly $9 Billion A Year

FAIR has released their latest report on the costs of illegal aliens to
taxpayers. The main costs are in education, health care and prison costs for
illegal aliens in jail.
North County Times

California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9
billion each year, according to a new report released last week by the
Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group
that promotes stricter immigration policies.
Educating the children of illegal immigrants is the largest cost,
estimated at $7.7 billion each year, according to the report. Medical care
for illegal immigrants and incarceration of those who have committed crimes
are the next two largest expenses measured in the study, the author said.


Jack Martin, who wrote the report, said Thursday that the $9 billion
figure does not include other expenses that are difficult to measure, such
as special English instruction, school lunch programs, and welfare benefits
for American workers displaced by illegal immigrant workers.

"It's a bottom of the range number," Martin said.

FAIR drew from the U.S. Census report and other sources. This study matches
an earlier study By the Center for Immigration Reform(CIS) that I reported
on (see: "Latest Report: Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers $10 Billion A Year"
from Sep. 4, 2004). Of course you can't do any straight reporting on this
issue without having some pro illegal alien advocate group playing the race
card once again to justify the illegal behavior of these people who suck dry
our tax system and run emergency rooms into bankruptcy.

Upper Marlboro, MD

#13 Mar 10, 2011
Currently, 35 percent of the American population is receiving government handouts--welfare and other forms of support. The vast majority of illegal aliens coming here are poorly educated people who are, at best, qualified for manual labor. There is a saturation point for workers with no, or low, skills. Functional illiterates in Spanish are the primary types coming here illegally.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Puebla, Mexico Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Letter: Significance of Cinco de Mayo for Mexicans (May '15) May '15 wild child 1
News Editorial: A tribute to Cinco de Mayo (May '15) May '15 Volver volver volver 1
News SL Tennessee to add 300 jobs in $35 million Cli... (Feb '10) Jan '15 jim 6
News Border showdown: Families want U.S. entry (Mar '14) Nov '14 8987799asd 84
News UFO at Popocatepetl volcano returns over severa... (Oct '14) Oct '14 Understatement 1
News Mexico's auto industry: Bane or boon for US Big... (Jul '14) Jul '14 Sirius 5
News Finally a " new VW Golf hits U.S showrooms (May '14) May '14 Tom Loy 1
More from around the web