Mexican forces kill suspected cartel ...

Mexican forces kill suspected cartel operative

There are 12 comments on the KGW-TV Portland story from Jan 19, 2011, titled Mexican forces kill suspected cartel operative. In it, KGW-TV Portland reports that:

A suspected top operative of the brutal Zetas drug cartel died Wednesday during a confrontation with Mexican security forces in a city in the Gulf Coast state of Veracruz It was one of several developments throughout Mexico linked to the grinding battle between drug traffickers and the state.

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Cana

Canada

#1 Jan 20, 2011
Good job...so 3 years and the mexican military has taken out how many drug pricks?

“Watch out for snakes!”

Since: Mar 08

Over There

#2 Jan 20, 2011
WooHoo! Job opening!
American In Monterrey

Mexico

#3 Jan 20, 2011
Cana wrote:
Good job...so 3 years and the mexican military has taken out how many drug pricks?
About 28,000....that includes the army and cartels killing each other, which the army helps because when they fight each other the army sits out and waits for the survivors. 17 capos 8 in the last three months

give or take

total impact on the war.... nada to the naked eye.
scout

United States

#5 Jan 21, 2011
Increase the pressure, Mexico!
scout

United States

#6 Jan 21, 2011
Mexico, YOU must guard the border, too. Stop the illegals and drugs and terrorists from running across and stop the weapons from going over to you guys!
Cana

Canada

#7 Jan 21, 2011
American In Monterrey wrote:
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About 28,000....that includes the army and cartels killing each other, which the army helps because when they fight each other the army sits out and waits for the survivors. 17 capos 8 in the last three months
give or take
total impact on the war.... nada to the naked eye.
And this number is coming from where?
American In Monterrey

Mexico

#8 Jan 21, 2011
Cana wrote:
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And this number is coming from where?
From living here and witnessing it everyday.
I also get paid to understand it. The gruesome crap is cartels trying to intimidate each other. Extortion is rampant but targeted at small business (Mexicans) and kidnappings are targeted at Mexicans....foreigners are too complicated, embassies etc plus they don't usually speak spanish so hard to negotiate. Carjackings are bad but they don't hurt you if you give up your car.
You can also read the breakdown of all the killing on a gov't website. of course you take it with a grain of salt but directionally it is accurate. To date in 2011 in Monterrey you have 90 reported murders, 88 were cartel rival killings (including the police killed as they were informing Zetas so killed by Gulfos) 2 were tragically innocent people, one case of mistaken identity and one heart attack during gunfire. In a city of 4 million, your odds are still good, especially if you are not involved in the drug trade.
All the numbers are there to find if you are interested. If you don't believe the gov't figures you can find very good info in the narcoblogs.
Mexico's situation is tragic and barbaric. The real risk here is cross fire, car jacking and kidnapping (that's not new). The real issue is a war on drugs that did not consider that when you decapitate cartels, you leave nini's in the streets with guns and no leadership........and no friggin police! Police should have been first, then the war. Now they are playing catch up.
Cana

Canada

#9 Jan 21, 2011
American In Monterrey wrote:
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From living here and witnessing it everyday.
I also get paid to understand it. The gruesome crap is cartels trying to intimidate each other. Extortion is rampant but targeted at small business (Mexicans) and kidnappings are targeted at Mexicans....foreigners are too complicated, embassies etc plus they don't usually speak spanish so hard to negotiate. Carjackings are bad but they don't hurt you if you give up your car.
You can also read the breakdown of all the killing on a gov't website. of course you take it with a grain of salt but directionally it is accurate. To date in 2011 in Monterrey you have 90 reported murders, 88 were cartel rival killings (including the police killed as they were informing Zetas so killed by Gulfos) 2 were tragically innocent people, one case of mistaken identity and one heart attack during gunfire. In a city of 4 million, your odds are still good, especially if you are not involved in the drug trade.
All the numbers are there to find if you are interested. If you don't believe the gov't figures you can find very good info in the narcoblogs.
Mexico's situation is tragic and barbaric. The real risk here is cross fire, car jacking and kidnapping (that's not new). The real issue is a war on drugs that did not consider that when you decapitate cartels, you leave nini's in the streets with guns and no leadership........and no friggin police! Police should have been first, then the war. Now they are playing catch up.
Any Canadian that goes to Mexico should be able to get themselves back. The hazard has been obvious for the last five years.

They are in a state of war...good luck tourist!
American In Monterrey

Mexico

#10 Jan 21, 2011
Cana wrote:
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Any Canadian that goes to Mexico should be able to get themselves back. The hazard has been obvious for the last five years.
They are in a state of war...good luck tourist!
You are entitled to your opinion, I hope you enjoy your smaller world. Hopefully others educate themselves fully before they form their opinions
Cana

Canada

#11 Jan 21, 2011
American In Monterrey wrote:
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You are entitled to your opinion, I hope you enjoy your smaller world. Hopefully others educate themselves fully before they form their opinions
Ya...it's called the internet. Why go to a place were you have to travel within a gated zone. Give me a F'n brake...Mexico is a shithole, no?
American In Monterrey

Mexico

#12 Jan 22, 2011
Cana wrote:
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Ya...it's called the internet. Why go to a place were you have to travel within a gated zone. Give me a F'n brake...Mexico is a shithole, no?
No.
Lenny

Mexico, Mexico

#13 Jan 24, 2011
Wow such scary stuff. Should I pack my bag and head for home? No I'll continue to enjoy my winter months in Oaxaca. I walk the streets at night feeling safer than in areas close to my neighborhood back home. Yes maybe being a gringo is like having a hands off sign.
Per other parts of Mexico I would stay clear from some as the army and the cartels hash out (no pun intended) what we hear of as The War on Drugs, maybe better described as The War For Drugs.

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