Immigrant Families Leave Ariz. And Tough New Law

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Annonymous Citizen

Meilen, Switzerland

#1 Jun 23, 2010
There is nothing wrong with this. Leagal is not an ugly word. People just have to follow the rules and file legally, the the issues resolve themselves. It is not right and is a slp in the face to the immigrants of the U.S. who have done it legally.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#2 Jun 23, 2010
Annonymous Citizen wrote:
There is nothing wrong with this. Leagal is not an ugly word. People just have to follow the rules and file legally, the the issues resolve themselves. It is not right and is a slp in the face to the immigrants of the U.S. who have done it legally.
By you telling an immigrant to follow the rules and do it the legal way is pretty much telling them to F**K off or better yet, your not becoming an America at all. It's no wonder why people like you blindly rant & rave for them all to do it the LEGAL and to get in line.

What part of legal immigration don't you understand?

http://crfranke.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/i...
plopsdad

United States

#3 Jun 23, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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By you telling an immigrant to follow the rules and do it the legal way is pretty much telling them to F**K off or better yet, your not becoming an America at all. It's no wonder why people like you blindly rant & rave for them all to do it the LEGAL and to get in line.
What part of legal immigration don't you understand?
http://crfranke.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/i...
Check the laws clueless, you will see they are already require immigrants to carry papers, just another law thats not enforced, try learning before spewing
Tammy

Shippingport, PA

#4 Jun 23, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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By you telling an immigrant to follow the rules and do it the legal way is pretty much telling them to **** off or better yet, your not becoming an America at all. It's no wonder why people like you blindly rant & rave for them all to do it the LEGAL and to get in line.
What part of legal immigration don't you understand?
http://crfranke.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/i...
I'm sorry but you are wrong. There are immigration laws for a reason and whether you agree with them or not they are laws and if you are in this country you are required to follow them. I know there are good people who have come here ilegally but they are still breaking the law. It is not impossable to become a citizen there are many who are doing it today. It make be a lengthy process but as long as you are going through the proper channels you are fine.

Those who are here illegal and those that support them want to say our immigration laws are tough, look up the immigration laws of other countries. They are a lot worse than ours. This goes for all countries but since Mexico's president wants to try and tell us that we need to change our immigration laws look up Mexico's immigration laws first. I think you will be sitting there with your mouth hanging open saying "WOW, it's a lot easier to become an American citizen and the US is no where near as tough on illegals as Mexico is."
Big Sky Montana

United States

#6 Jun 23, 2010
Compliments to Arizona and Nebraska for taking a stand for all legal American citizens. I'd like to suggest the idea of annexing Mexico as a state (or number of states) into our United States since they are already breaking down our doors to get in.
Felipe Calderoff

Oceanside, CA

#7 Jun 23, 2010
http://fulanofiles.blogspot.com/2010/06/thoug...

"Thoughts on Arizona Law SB1070

I find myself mildly amused while observing the tug-of-war between those in the United States who support SB1070, and those opposed. Those opposed to SB1070, and their useful idiots, jumped almost immediately on the “racist” bandwagon, calling supporters “Nazis” and worse. They even pushed their agenda by calling the US a “racist” nation. No people were more vocal about this than Mexicans living in the US and Mexico.

Perhaps the irony escapes us. The United States has a black president. The attorney general is black. The president’s cabinet is comprised of a healthy measure of Asians, blacks and Latinos. Our Congress has minority senators and representatives in an approximate proportion to their representation in the general population. And we are a racist nation? Well then, let’s look at Mexico.

Mexico is a pigmentocracy: the less pigment in your skin, the higher your social rank. Take a stroll through the halls of government or big business in Mexico. Would you see any dark-skinned natives? Not unless they are mopping the hallway. 30% of the population of Mexico is pure-blooded indigenous people. 30%!! Where are they in the Mexican infrastructure? In the 500-year history of Mexico, there has been only one full-blooded Indian to have become president of Mexico, Benito Juarez, and that was 140-years ago. If you want to see racism up close, go live in Mexico.

On the issue of illegal immigration in the US, well, Americans and Mexicans just do not understand each other. When it comes to the concept of laws, there is a huge cultural difference between the US and Mexico. The US is a country of laws. We abide by the laws and are rightfully indignant when others violate them. On the other hand, in Mexico laws are considered optional, they are guidelines; they are suggestions; and even often just profit centers for corrupt politicians and police. In Mexico, the law depends upon who you are, who you know and how much money you have.

And when it comes to our immigration laws, that cultural difference is the big disconnect between Americans and Mexicans. When an American says it is illegal to be in the US without a visa, he thinks that is a full and complete description of the issue, and nothing more needs be said. The Mexican, upon hearing that he needs a visa to be legal in the US says,“OK, who do I need to see to fix this problem?”

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#8 Jun 23, 2010
plopsdad wrote:
<quoted text>Check the laws clueless, you will see they are already require immigrants to carry papers, just another law thats not enforced, try learning before spewing
I was not talking about papers.

I was asking people in particular,'What part of legal immigration don't you understand
Arizona

Reading, PA

#9 Jun 23, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
By you telling an immigrant to follow the rules and do it the legal way is pretty much telling them to **** off or better yet, your not becoming an America at all. It's no wonder why people like you blindly rant & rave for them all to do it the LEGAL and to get in line.
What part of legal immigration don't you understand?
http://crfranke.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/i...
Hey beaner, try to read into the laws a little before you go spewing your taco breath all over the place.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#11 Jun 23, 2010
Tammy wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry but you are wrong. There are immigration laws for a reason and whether you agree with them or not they are laws and if you are in this country you are required to follow them. I know there are good people who have come here ilegally but they are still breaking the law. It is not impossable to become a citizen there are many who are doing it today. It make be a lengthy process but as long as you are going through the proper channels you are fine.
Those who are here illegal and those that support them want to say our immigration laws are tough, look up the immigration laws of other countries. They are a lot worse than ours. This goes for all countries but since Mexico's president wants to try and tell us that we need to change our immigration laws look up Mexico's immigration laws first. I think you will be sitting there with your mouth hanging open saying "WOW, it's a lot easier to become an American citizen and the US is no where near as tough on illegals as Mexico is."
I provided a link to a PDF that shows in vivid detail how our legal immigration entry system is.

Did you pay particular attention to the part that only allows 10k temporary visas for non-skilled immigrants with no hope of citizenship and then on the other section any unskilled mother can come here, have an anchor baby and get to stay in America and eventually their entire family?

If that's not a F**KED up legal immigration system then I really don't know what is.

It's rather obvious that you have no concept of what legal immigration is and how unfair and broken it is.

So when you say get in line or follow the legal route regarding immigration your pretty much telling the majority of immigrants to get the F**K on and don't come back.

Maybe now you can understand why so many immigrants say to hell with the law and just barge on in with ease and spit anchor babies all over the place?

I'm not supporting illegal immigration but rather trying to explain to people that the concept of telling a person to go get in line or follow the law is equal to you telling them that their never going to get to legally come here.

So thats why they do it illegally.

Ironically, all it takes is a hop and a skip over an invisible Mexican-American border and to top it off American employers have signs pointing to the places that will hire them. To no surprise the Government seems to look the other way.

The government has no real problem with illegal immigrants coming to America having children as a means to gaining citizenship. it's allowed, it's legal, and it's happening right now.

So are you going to continue ranting that I'm wrong or are you going to dig a little deeper and see that what I say is true?

Immigration reform is necessary and I'm not talking about Amnesty but rather repairing the way an immigrant legally enters this Nation.

It's plagued with holes and bias.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#12 Jun 23, 2010
Arizona wrote:
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Hey beaner, try to read into the laws a little before you go spewing your taco breath all over the place.
I was discussing legal immigration you dumb Azz.
Arizona

Reading, PA

#13 Jun 23, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
I was discussing legal immigration you dumb ****.
Listen, Paco. This isn't about legal immigrants. It's about the illegal scum who march into this country everyday and now want all of us on their side. Not going to happen. People are sick of the leeches and the disease they bring.

Next time, take the sombrero off so you can read the story correctly.
Arizona

Reading, PA

#14 Jun 23, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
I provided a link to a PDF that shows in vivid detail how our legal immigration entry system is.
Did you pay particular attention to the part that only allows 10k temporary visas for non-skilled immigrants with no hope of citizenship and then on the other section any unskilled mother can come here, have an anchor baby and get to stay in America and eventually their entire family?
If that's not a F**KED up legal immigration system then I really don't know what is.
It's rather obvious that you have no concept of what legal immigration is and how unfair and broken it is.
So when you say get in line or follow the legal route regarding immigration your pretty much telling the majority of immigrants to get the **** on and don't come back.
Maybe now you can understand why so many immigrants say to hell with the law and just barge on in with ease and spit anchor babies all over the place?
I'm not supporting illegal immigration but rather trying to explain to people that the concept of telling a person to go get in line or follow the law is equal to you telling them that their never going to get to legally come here.
So thats why they do it illegally.
Ironically, all it takes is a hop and a skip over an invisible Mexican-American border and to top it off American employers have signs pointing to the places that will hire them. To no surprise the Government seems to look the other way.
The government has no real problem with illegal immigrants coming to America having children as a means to gaining citizenship. it's allowed, it's legal, and it's happening right now.
So are you going to continue ranting that I'm wrong or are you going to dig a little deeper and see that what I say is true?
Immigration reform is necessary and I'm not talking about Amnesty but rather repairing the way an immigrant legally enters this Nation.
It's plagued with holes and bias.
Actually your cry towel argument is pretty hilarious. I know of three people who were through the legal immigration system, have completed it and are not full citizens. I never heard them cry about it or complain about how unfair it is.

Maybe all that Tabasco sauce is getting to you.
Native American

Harrison, NJ

#15 Jun 23, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not talking about papers.
I was asking people in particular,'What part of legal immigration don't you understand
i don't understand why you think I would want some one who can't be responsible enough to follow rules to live in this country and don't say "well, your family were immigrants"
Native American

Harrison, NJ

#16 Jun 23, 2010
I live in city that is ruined by immigrants, Few have respect for others, most crimes are committed by immigrants, gang activity by immigrants, and most of them live of off welfare and are proud of it. If they want to be citizens of this country show some support pay some taxes, fight for freedom, try putting away you PR and Mexico flags and HANG AN AMERICAN FLAG. why don't you all go back and focus your energy on improving your own homeland, instead of trying to change the U.S.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#17 Jun 23, 2010
some cities in the state of CA passing this same AZ law ,, watch out if your here illegal
Tammy

Shippingport, PA

#18 Jun 24, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
I provided a link to a PDF that shows in vivid detail how our legal immigration entry system is.
Did you pay particular attention to the part that only allows 10k temporary visas for non-skilled immigrants with no hope of citizenship and then on the other section any unskilled mother can come here, have an anchor baby and get to stay in America and eventually their entire family?
If that's not a F**KED up legal immigration system then I really don't know what is.
It's rather obvious that you have no concept of what legal immigration is and how unfair and broken it is.
So when you say get in line or follow the legal route regarding immigration your pretty much telling the majority of immigrants to get the **** on and don't come back.
Maybe now you can understand why so many immigrants say to hell with the law and just barge on in with ease and spit anchor babies all over the place?
I'm not supporting illegal immigration but rather trying to explain to people that the concept of telling a person to go get in line or follow the law is equal to you telling them that their never going to get to legally come here.
So thats why they do it illegally.
Ironically, all it takes is a hop and a skip over an invisible Mexican-American border and to top it off American employers have signs pointing to the places that will hire them. To no surprise the Government seems to look the other way.
The government has no real problem with illegal immigrants coming to America having children as a means to gaining citizenship. it's allowed, it's legal, and it's happening right now.
So are you going to continue ranting that I'm wrong or are you going to dig a little deeper and see that what I say is true?
Immigration reform is necessary and I'm not talking about Amnesty but rather repairing the way an immigrant legally enters this Nation.
It's plagued with holes and bias.
Good morning Rico,
First please understand that I was not calling you names like some others on here. The reason I said you are wrong is because your post sounded like you were for the illegal immigrants. I agree that there are things in our immigration laws that need to be looked at and fixed. NOT to make it easier but to make more sence especially when it comes to anchor babies as you pointed out. That should absolutely NOT be a way to stay here.

Now in the meantime since any change takes time, the laws should be enforced and yes, you should be sent back if you come to our country illegally. Like I said before I understand that mixed in with all the criminals that enter illegally there are some very good hardworking and wonderfull people, however, as soon as you come in illegally you make yourself a criminal since you are breaking our countries laws. An American citizen is arrested when we break the law.

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