Oaxaca, an Irreversible Crisis

Oaxaca, an Irreversible Crisis

There are 8 comments on the Prensa Latina story from Dec 26, 2006, titled Oaxaca, an Irreversible Crisis. In it, Prensa Latina reports that:

Mexico, Dec 26 The Oaxaca social conflict that broke on May 22 in Mexico, with 70,000 local teachers demonstrating for higher salaries, became the most significant political, social crisis in the country in the ...

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“desde mexico ocupado”

Since: Dec 06

My home is where my hat is

#1 Dec 26, 2006
It's getting hard for me to believe anything written below the impossible statement that there are 70,000 teachers in the city of Oaxaca. I have been hearing this for 5 months, but it can't be true. There are only about 490,000 people in Oaxaca, which would mean there was one teacher for every seven people, i.e. about one teacher for every family. This has got to be a typo. 7,000 teachers would be one teacher for every 70 people. We can imagine 30 or even 40 kids out of every seventy being in school. Why is this obvious falsehood being perpetuated? And has anyone seen a more realistic figure published?
Patrick

Orizaba, Mexico

#2 Dec 26, 2006
Localokie: Oaxaca is both a state and a city. The figure 70,000 is the number given of teachers paid state-wide. Of course, a substantial number of these are not really teachers so the people who occasionally show up in the schools number well below the 70,000.

The news in Prensa Latina isn't bad but this is an opinion column that is heavy with rhetoric and low on what the writer called "realities."

As I was walking into town this morning with a friend, a Mixtec, I stopped to give a dollar to people begging and I had suckers and little books for the kids. My friend is upset to learn that almost all the beggars are Mixtecs, not surprising, and virtually none of the kds speak Spanish. A lot of these kids will never go to school. It's tragic but part of the responsibility for change rests with the people. Opportunities not only have to exist but have to be taken.
Dinah

Lake Orion, MI

#3 Dec 28, 2006
Patrick wrote:
Localokie: Oaxaca is both a state and a city. The figure 70,000 is the number given of teachers paid state-wide. Of course, a substantial number of these are not really teachers so the people who occasionally show up in the schools number well below the 70,000.
The news in Prensa Latina isn't bad but this is an opinion column that is heavy with rhetoric and low on what the writer called "realities."
As I was walking into town this morning with a friend, a Mixtec, I stopped to give a dollar to people begging and I had suckers and little books for the kids. My friend is upset to learn that almost all the beggars are Mixtecs, not surprising, and virtually none of the kds speak Spanish. A lot of these kids will never go to school. It's tragic but part of the responsibility for change rests with the people. Opportunities not only have to exist but have to be taken.
If the kids don't speak Spanish; what DO they speak?

It seems to me that if our irritating government wanted to overthrow corruption and do better by the people; they should have started here; not in Iraq.
Ignorant statement perhaps; but just a thought.
Hombre

United States

#4 Dec 28, 2006
Dinah wrote:
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If the kids don't speak Spanish; what DO they speak?
It seems to me that if our irritating government wanted to overthrow corruption and do better by the people; they should have started here; not in Iraq.
Ignorant statement perhaps; but just a thought.
...I don't even know where to begin......maybe: hey!, have a popsicle!
Patrick

Orizaba, Mexico

#6 Dec 28, 2006
Oh, and if the government in the U.S. wanted to deal with corruption they could have started in Chicago.
Patrick

Orizaba, Mexico

#5 Dec 28, 2006
"If the kids don't speak Spanish; what DO they speak?"

Zapotec, Triqui, or Mixtec for the most part. My friend Eloy didn't learn Spanish until he was over 20 and another friend, Jacinta, didn't learn Spanish until she was about 16. When I meet Jacinta's mother, she speaks only Zapotec and Jacinta has to translate. A friend in a village near here speaks excellent Spanish but his wife and daughters speak very little Spanish.

It wasn't that long ago that Navajo children grew up speaking only Navajo.
Hombre

United States

#7 Dec 28, 2006
Patrick wrote:
Oh, and if the government in the U.S. wanted to deal with corruption they could have started in Chicago.
WHAT!?!?!..Chicago has political corruption?!?!?!?!!.This I cannot believe!!!...BTW...my fair city 'lost' 32...that's THIRTY TWO, electronic ballot counters immediately after the last election. I wonder how many thousand votes per counter that would be?....the affair hasn't been spoken of since by media here....and to be perfectly blunt, they went missing in areas of the city that have been predominantly Democrat for quite some time, yet stats are changing there as the urban areas are being revitalized and the upper crust are moving back into the restored 'historic' areas. What looks obvious is that someone wants to make sure the area stays Democrat, regardless of the constituency of the area. No one's talkin though. Somewhere, though,...perhaps in someones garage, is a box of electonic vote tabulators, quiety sitting underneath the barbeque.
Hombre

United States

#8 Dec 28, 2006
Patrick wrote:
Zapotec, Triqui, or Mixtec for the most part.......It wasn't that long ago that Navajo children grew up speaking only Navajo.
...your patience is exemplary.

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