Scholar finds Mayans' buried highway ...

Scholar finds Mayans' buried highway through hell

There are 16 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Nov 9, 2008, titled Scholar finds Mayans' buried highway through hell. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Mexican archaeologist Guillermo de Anda is aided by two young archeologists as he prepares to dive into an underground lake inside a cenote cave in Tzibichen on the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico, Wednesday, Oct.

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hddh

AOL

#1 Dec 13, 2008
I love archaeology of this is fascinating, but also disturbing. I believe it's one of the reasons these folks didn't survive. Getting to the afterlife should be a wonderful glorious magnificent experience and not one that takes you through hell. And the Mayans sent people through this physically one would assume, or they wouldn't have spent the time to build it.
old married man

Richmond, CA

#2 Dec 13, 2008
hell is here is santa cruz right on pacific ave.
Lucas

AOL

#3 Dec 13, 2008
Is the Spanish Inquisition and the human sacrifices in Central America taught in public schools as Mexican heritage or is that not politically correct? The way the Brown Berets tell it, they think they are indigenous people from North America.
way cool

Santa Cruz, CA

#4 Dec 13, 2008
Great find. I hope one day they get it into shape for tourists to visit. Congrats to all involved.
Pdog

United States

#5 Dec 13, 2008
It's The Goonies all the way!!!

We will be hearing more about the Maya in the next few years. Food for thought: http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
Mumbofish

Anderson, CA

#6 Dec 13, 2008
That wasn't a bunch of baloney about the crystal skulls found somewhere in South America, I forget which anceint civilationn. The skulls protrayed in the lastest Inianna Jones movie.
Mumbofish

Anderson, CA

#7 Dec 13, 2008
I think they did surive, but are different in their way of living. The people are still are here, but not living the life that they had lived. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptions, the Chinese who built the great wall, they're still all here. I'm not too familiar with the history on the Mayans, but do remmber reading about floating gardens, but can't remmber which people, such as the Azetics or the Incas.
Mumbofish

Anderson, CA

#8 Dec 13, 2008
Hey, anyone read the "Ra Expedition? I've got to get that book out from the library, one of these days.
konzo

San Jose, CA

#9 Dec 13, 2008
Lucas wrote:
Is the Spanish Inquisition and the human sacrifices in Central America taught in public schools as Mexican heritage or is that not politically correct? The way the Brown Berets tell it, they think they are indigenous people from North America.
Well one thing's for sure, the Mexicans are more indigenous to this land than your Euro-butt. At least the Aztecs were on the same continent.
Same old stuff

United States

#10 Dec 13, 2008
konzo wrote:
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Well one thing's for sure, the Mexicans are more indigenous to this land than your Euro-butt. At least the Aztecs were on the same continent.
More brown supremacy at it's finest...(sigh)
Akesha Baron

Brookline, MA

#11 Dec 14, 2008
They probably created the caves to give living people an experience of death- lots of cultures prescribe experiences that involve meditating on death, imagining one's death etc, to overcome the fear of death so that feeling fully alive is no longer too scary and life can be fully embraced- important especially for spiritual leaders.
Joe

United States

#12 Dec 14, 2008
Lucas wrote:
Is the Spanish Inquisition and the human sacrifices in Central America taught in public schools as Mexican heritage or is that not politically correct? The way the Brown Berets tell it, they think they are indigenous people from North America.
You have to keep in mind who is teaching these Aztlan courses. They have created a totally made-up history which they teach.

They teach these gullible students that the Aztecs ruled over all of North America. And no, they do not teach about the human sacrifices and cannibalism, how the Aztecs actually chased down and ate Indians. They actually have their gullible followers believing that Spanish is the indigenous language of all North American nations and for that reason they must never learn English but continue speaking Spanish as the indigenous language.
Joe

United States

#13 Dec 14, 2008
konzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Well one thing's for sure, the Mexicans are more indigenous to this land than your Euro-butt. At least the Aztecs were on the same continent.
Here we have one of the gullible. Great example.

There was no "Mexico" until the Spaniards came and claimed a large territory. The Aztecs actually ruled over a 35 mile radius near Mexico City. There was no nation of Mexico when the Aztecs ruled.
beckys face

Richmond, CA

#14 Dec 14, 2008
Akesha Baron wrote:
They probably created the caves to give living people an experience of death- lots of cultures prescribe experiences that involve meditating on death, imagining one's death etc, to overcome the fear of death so that feeling fully alive is no longer too scary and life can be fully embraced- important especially for spiritual leaders.
very cool
Fascinating

United States

#15 Dec 14, 2008
a large portion of this particular history is reflected in the book "Aztec" from early 1980's. Scholars: Does this book give an example of true love and life for the Aztecs?
Spirits are real, but you have to die to find out more. Why?: because it's a story we don't understand, and only find out more(if there is more) when we die and most people find the subject of death frightful. No one wants to volunteer for research either!
relativity

Santa Cruz, CA

#16 Dec 14, 2008
The true indigenous in Mexico are being persecuted and their culture rapidly extinguished right now. Even here. I read in the Good Times years ago about how a Watsonville charity is teaching the Indian immigrant farmworkers Spanish instead of English, in order to help them economically. So the colonisation continues, depriving the Indians of the full opportunity of this country through English and keeping them under Spanish control.

I had wondered if any of my tac money was going to that do-gooder organisation that was busy co-opting the Zapateco and other Indian immigrants so that othere can say their Spanish community has indigenous roots.
I had thought the way up for farmworkers was to leave the Spanish dominated fieldworker world by learning 'english, access to college, the world etc. I am talking more power relationships and true indigenous to have a global voice, than a stupid language war.

A lot of the local native americans were forced to change their names and also lost their language and culture to the Spanish. There was a digital project documenting that loss, going through all the old mission records.

The origin of many of the older inhabitants of the Americas I believe was coming over the Bering strait, so they are ot indigenous in the sense of being First People like the Koi San and Amazigh (Berbers) etc. It depends when you want to draw an arbitrary time line. The Aztlan story is a myth.

Many of the whites here also have Indian blood, as do the mixed Mexicans.
Why not deal with the real history, honour the Indians of all colours now who actually still follow the original culture, and join the family of humans?

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