Illegal Immigrants Turn to Traditiona...

Illegal Immigrants Turn to Traditional Healing

There are 50 comments on the www.nytimes.com story from May 9, 2008, titled Illegal Immigrants Turn to Traditional Healing . In it, www.nytimes.com reports that:

The curandera is weary from work. Three, four, five times a day, the undocumented farm workers knock on her apartment door, begging her to cure their ailments..

They complain of indigestion, of rashes, of post-traumatic panic attacks. Then there are the house calls that compel her to crate up her potions and herbs and drive across town, often after midnight, to escape the notice of immigration police.

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pudbert_Savannah GA

United States

#21 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
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wow it must be amzing that found a girl who can think for herself. i'm not dumb. i no all this stuff cuz my math teacher always tells us whats happening in the world werid huh but still he a great teacher
p.s i came on this website for a current events report but i guess i'll have too show this to the school news paper
You are very confused between the difference between PAYING YOUR OWN WAY, and EXPECTING OTHERS TO PAY FOR YOU...

What if I decided to have 10 kids, and expected YOU to pay all the costs of feeding, clothing, housing, and paying for all the medical bills too.

You would be racist if you didn't want to pay all of MY bills..

This is what YOU just said, only I'M the one receiving other peoples money.
Myself

Henderson, NV

#22 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
I'm 13 years old and even I'm disgusted by what you are saying. How would you like it if you got sick in a forgein country and they didn't let you go to a hosptial and you had to try medcine that could possibly kill you. It's not funny when somebody dies.
And think about this
while you tell ilegal immagrants to get out
a child is killed
while you say rasits comments
a family is left homeless
while tell mexico to fix their country
a pregnat women is shot
While you say illegals are messed up
america goes to war
While you say illegals children are monkeys
your child is doing stuff that shouldn't be doing.
IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO FIX OUR COUNTRY TOO!!!
Illegal aliens CAN go to hospitals and are required to be treated under federal law which is meant to prevent hospitals from turning away anyone in need of medical treatment.

They (along with uninsured) should also be required to actually PAY their bills.

“Illegals are not immigrants...”

Since: Apr 07

Mid-south, USA

#23 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
I'm 13 years old and even I'm disgusted by what you are saying. How would you like it if you got sick in a forgein country and they didn't let you go to a hosptial and you had to try medcine that could possibly kill you. It's not funny when somebody dies.
And think about this
while you tell ilegal immagrants to get out
a child is killed
while you say rasits comments
a family is left homeless
while tell mexico to fix their country
a pregnat women is shot
While you say illegals are messed up
america goes to war
While you say illegals children are monkeys
your child is doing stuff that shouldn't be doing.
IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO FIX OUR COUNTRY TOO!!!
First, we need to fix the school that you attend, or maybe you need to listen more to what the teacher is trying to teach you. More Americans are killed by illegals daily, and one point you made is correct. We need to fix our country, and the first step would be to deport every ingrate anchor baby right along with their arrogant, ignorant, illiterate illegal parents. This country can't afford to be the welfare provider for the world.
camille

Oak Park, IL

#24 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
I'm 13 years old and even I'm disgusted by what you are saying. How would you like it if you got sick in a forgein country and they didn't let you go to a hosptial and you had to try medcine that could possibly kill you. It's not funny when somebody dies.
And think about this
while you tell ilegal immagrants to get out
a child is killed
while you say rasits comments
a family is left homeless
while tell mexico to fix their country
a pregnat women is shot
While you say illegals are messed up
america goes to war
While you say illegals children are monkeys
your child is doing stuff that shouldn't be doing.
IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO FIX OUR COUNTRY TOO!!!
Ram it.
what

Somerset, KY

#25 May 10, 2008
hill billy wrote:
little less beer and dope...and most of them would not need a doctor...
In this country?? Let's not even try for that angle. We have no room to talk. You know all that warring going on in the border towns? Guess why they're bothering? That's right, because of the market here.
what

Somerset, KY

#26 May 10, 2008
camille wrote:
<quoted text>
Ram it.
Upset that a 13 year old made sense?
what

Somerset, KY

#27 May 10, 2008
Myself wrote:
<quoted text>

They (along with uninsured) should also be required to actually PAY their bills.
OH! ok! Let me just run down to the bank and get that $800,000 out of my account. Sorry, but I'd much rather the doc tell me I have a headache and go buy a whole bottle of aspirin for 2 dollars as opposed to paying 8 bucks for one aspirin in a hospital setting.

That is one absurd dragon in this country that needs slayed real soon.
pudbert_Savannah GA

United States

#28 May 10, 2008
what wrote:
<quoted text>
OH! ok! Let me just run down to the bank and get that $800,000 out of my account. Sorry, but I'd much rather the doc tell me I have a headache and go buy a whole bottle of aspirin for 2 dollars as opposed to paying 8 bucks for one aspirin in a hospital setting.
That is one absurd dragon in this country that needs slayed real soon.
The healthcare "dragon" got so big because those that pay are paying for the millions that DON'T pay, at all.. One sure way to fix it is to deport all of the illegals back to where they came from in the first place.

They're a huge contributor to the liberal sociallistic welfare state that we see expanding as we speak. And the main reason why we are paying so much, is because of their FREE care.

It's only FREE to them, not us, the ones that are PAYING for their FREE stuff..
camille

Oak Park, IL

#29 May 10, 2008
what wrote:
<quoted text>
Upset that a 13 year old made sense?
Susana wrote:
I'm 13 years old and even I'm disgusted by what you are saying. How would you like it if you got sick in a forgein country and they didn't let you go to a hosptial and you had to try medcine that could possibly kill you. It's not funny when somebody dies.
And think about this
while you tell ilegal immagrants to get out
a child is killed
while you say rasits comments
a family is left homeless
while tell mexico to fix their country
a pregnat women is shot
While you say illegals are messed up
america goes to war
While you say illegals children are monkeys
your child is doing stuff that shouldn't be doing.
IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO FIX OUR COUNTRY TOO!!!
**********

1. Illegal aliens should not be in the US in the first place. If they had respected our immigration laws and stayed in their own countries none of this would be an issue.

2.When an illegal alien shows up at a hospital ER they MUST be seen thanks to the coercive EMTALA. This statement that 'they didn't let you go to a hospital and you had to try medicine that could possibly kill you' is utter nonsense.

3." And think about this while you tell ilegal immagrants to get out a child is killed" WTF?

4."while you say rasits comments a family is left homeless" WTF? Since you seem to consider her this font of wisdom, kindly explain how 'rasist comments' leave a family homeless.

5."while tell mexico to fix their country a pregnat women is shot" WTF?

6."While you say illegals are messed up america goes to war" What has this got to do with the price of tea in China?

7."While you say illegals children are monkeys your child is doing stuff that shouldn't be doing." Really! You know this how?

8. "IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO FIX OUR COUNTRY TOO!!!" This is the only coherent statement in the entire post. Yes, we do need to fix our country. We have our hands full with our own problems and simply cannot allow other countries such as Mexico to dump their problems on us, too. The illegal aliens need to be returned to their home countries to use their newly acquired political protest skills to work for change there.

“Ma0 BaMa THE GREAT DECEIVER”

Since: Mar 08

somewhere i BELONG

#30 May 10, 2008
i agree cam, we need to straighten out our own country.

america needs to locate and deport all illegals. so the true assesment of american issues can be assesed and fixed.
Susana

Sherman Oaks, CA

#31 May 10, 2008
Why did every1 think i'm an illgal mexican when i'm a legal mexican all you guys just assume that who stands up for a country must be from that country

“Only here for 75 or so years.”

Since: Feb 08

Grover Beach CA.

#32 May 10, 2008
marcuss wrote:
i agree cam, we need to straighten out our own country.
america needs to locate and deport all illegals. so the true assesment of american issues can be assesed and fixed.
They hold rallies every year where thousands of illegals show up to hate on America....

Ever see the Immigration Department that we fund taking action?

Me neither.

:(

“Only here for 75 or so years.”

Since: Feb 08

Grover Beach CA.

#33 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
Why did every1 think i'm an illgal mexican when i'm a legal mexican all you guys just assume that who stands up for a country must be from that country
silly adults.

Since: May 08

Martinsville, IN

#34 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
Why did every1 think i'm an illgal mexican when i'm a legal mexican all you guys just assume that who stands up for a country must be from that country
What about your parents or grandparents. To be honest though, I'm glad to see some children taking an interest. Just do a little more research, and not just on a debate group. Go to Govt sites and look up statistics, actually talk to people (illegal and US citizens) that live in predonimately Hispanic neighborhoods. If your parents or grandparents are illegal, ask them why they came here and why illegally. If you still feel the same oh well, everyone has the right to their own opinions, even 13 yr olds.
what

Somerset, KY

#35 May 10, 2008
pudbert_Savannah GA wrote:
<quoted text>
The healthcare "dragon" got so big because those that pay are paying for the millions that DON'T pay, at all.. One sure way to fix it is to deport all of the illegals back to where they came from in the first place.
They're a huge contributor to the liberal sociallistic welfare state that we see expanding as we speak. And the main reason why we are paying so much, is because of their FREE care.
It's only FREE to them, not us, the ones that are PAYING for their FREE stuff..
There's millions of Americans without health insurance. How is getting rid of them going to solve that? You're still going to be paying for them and you're still going to be paying 8 bucks an aspirin in a hospital setting.

Not to mention get rich quick idiots with malpractice suits out the arse. And let's not even get started on all the money wasted on treating symptoms with a flavor of the week pill invention that requires other pills to counter act its mile long list of side effects instead of actually curing something and effectively killing a cash cow.
It went wrong the day health care became a business to be bought and sold on the stock market.
what

Somerset, KY

#36 May 10, 2008
Here's some free health care: Got a cold, take Elderberry.
what

Somerset, KY

#37 May 10, 2008
Got allergies or a stuffy nose? Use a neti pot.
Susana

Sherman Oaks, CA

#38 May 10, 2008
Kev-0 wrote:
<quoted text>
They hold rallies every year where thousands of illegals show up to hate on America....
Ever see the Immigration Department that we fund taking action?
Me neither.
:(
they don't show up to hate america if they did they could of left by now.

“Only here for 75 or so years.”

Since: Feb 08

Grover Beach CA.

#39 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
<quoted text>
they don't show up to hate america if they did they could of left by now.
I don't even know where to begin explaining to you the grown up world...

Enjoy being 13, or however young you are, it goes by fast.
Bowman

Lompoc, CA

#40 May 10, 2008
Susana wrote:
Why did every1 think i'm an illgal mexican when i'm a legal mexican all you guys just assume that who stands up for a country must be from that country
How are you legal? Did Bill Clinton unconstitutionally give you US Citizenship (aka anchor baby)?

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