ATA Closes Operations, Files Chapter 11 -- Transportation, Midw...

[call me Al]

Old NWA Guy wrote:

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No, Frank Lorenzo is hiding out in Afghanistan with Osama Bin Laden. This is the rumor I heard and I believe it makes as much sense as yours

I'm not so sure that makes as much sense.

People like Lorenzo don't leave the biz all together. It wouldn't surprise me if he's lurking and making deals here and there. It's in his blood to find the fast buck and/or regain his stand as king of the mountain.

They made him take his ball and go home, I'm sure he would love to show everyone it's time to play with him again 'cause he'll end up holding all the cards somewhere somehow.

Carpet bagging is becoming very popular.

[Money Maker]

Fly By wrote:

Yes, just as the ex NWA employees above have written: book with a major airline or main carrier or non-discount carrier next time and (you) won't have these problems such as the ATA closing. Hmmmm...let's see, isn't American Airlines a major carrier? Great advice, fellas! Yes, the airline industry is so stable now, isn't it! Did somebody say, "Standed passengers?" And as far as people knowing that an airline is having finacial difficulty, one would have to have closer than usual ties to the industry, such as the retired NWA people who have posted above. Regardless of how one looks at it, selling tickets on flights with no intention of conducting those flights is fraudulent business practice. It's so typical of people to want to blame anyone but the business, in corporate America! Who is surprised? Nobody.

there is a difference.

AA is a major carrier --they are not going out of business leaving passengers with worthless tickets first of all

second AA does have a ticketing agreement where other airlines will probably accept their tickets once AA endorses them over to them..but once again if the alternate airline has space available.

there is a difference between AA and ATA...you might be stuck for a few days on an AA ticket or for a few hours. An ATA ticket you are stranded pretty much forever!

Again there is a difference between a low cost carrier and a major airline.

God forbid anything happen to Southwest as the only carrier they had an agreement with was ATA.

so EXNWA is 100% correct in their posting.

[EX-NWA FA]

Money Maker wrote:

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there is a difference.
AA is a major carrier --they are not going out of business leaving passengers with worthless tickets first of all
second AA does have a ticketing agreement where other airlines will probably accept their tickets once AA endorses them over to them..but once again if the alternate airline has space available.
there is a difference between AA and ATA...you might be stuck for a few days on an AA ticket or for a few hours. An ATA ticket you are stranded pretty much forever!
Again there is a difference between a low cost carrier and a major airline.
God forbid anything happen to Southwest as the only carrier they had an agreement with was ATA.
so EXNWA is 100% correct in their posting.

yup!

[Prospective pax]

FedEx triggers ATA Airlines collapse

http://www.americanshipper.com/fc/FLC_story.a...

January 22, was when things were known to be bad and Global Aero Logistics whose board of directors is mostly made of MatlinPatterson.

These people at Matlin and Global have defrauded Southwest Airlines, the traveling public, and the employees of ATA by not coming up with an intergration plan to save the code-share, and the livelihood of at least some of the 2000+ employees especially since everyone at ATA was trained upon the equipment already used at Global Aero Logisitcs.

It is amazing they are being allowed to get away with this ans slither away quietly.

[Prospective pax]

I think Southwest Airlines has a beef.