Blog del Narco: Gunmen Attack Bars in Torreon Mexico, At Least 8 Dead

Jan 7, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Hispanically Speaking

At least eight people were killed and four others wounded in attacks by gunmen on two bars in Torreon, a city in the northern Mexican state of Coahuila, the state police said Sunday.

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Sirius

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Jan 7, 2013
 
I usually do not comment news like this, but there is a pattern these robots repeat city after city. They go to the bars, night clubs, and try to force the owners to sell their drugs and of course, not the ones of the competence.

Eventually this result in fullfilled threats or gun battles between gangs.

Eventually, the night entertaining zone decays, or is destroyed (customers scared), businesses close. This do not happen like that in border cities since many live plainly of vice.

However, in cities more apart from the border, after a while, these zones revive as commerce or even family oriented zones.

So the picture in the long run really is not so bleak.

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Concerned

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Jan 7, 2013
 
What about all the killings of people in Bars in Acapulco? Also all the taxi drivers that sell drugs and are murdered in Acapulco? This are not border cities. There are others cities fyrther South that have the same problems.
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Jan 7, 2013
 
What about all the killings of people in Bars in Acapulco? Also all the taxi drivers that sell drugs and are murdered in Acapulco? This are not border cities. There are others cities fyrther South that have the same problems
Torreon is also not border city, and the States of Michoacan and Guerrero also not border or Northern.

But as they are exceptions, that doesn't mean that there is not a pattern.

We have to admit that when we read "Tijuana" or "Ciudad Juarez" there are some mental images that are likely to appear in a reader. Or that the US State Deparment currently recommends not to travel to Coahuila, and most of all, to Tamaulipas.

Don't you complain often of narco-blockades and things like that? But is something people do not suffer, say , in San Miguel de Allende... and a very vast area near the Center.

I understand that you don't like that Chihuaua, the border, or other places are singled out. I from my part do not like that all Mexico is viewed bad for what happens in certain areas, that are not by far all the country.
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Jan 7, 2013
 
Sirius wrote:
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Torreon is also not border city, and the States of Michoacan and Guerrero also not border or Northern.
But as they are exceptions, that doesn't mean that there is not a pattern.
We have to admit that when we read "Tijuana" or "Ciudad Juarez" there are some mental images that are likely to appear in a reader. Or that the US State Deparment currently recommends not to travel to Coahuila, and most of all, to Tamaulipas.
Don't you complain often of narco-blockades and things like that? But is something people do not suffer, say , in San Miguel de Allende... and a very vast area near the Center.
I understand that you don't like that Chihuaua, the border, or other places are singled out. I from my part do not like that all Mexico is viewed bad for what happens in certain areas, that are not by far all the country.
The Narco road blocks are on the only roads coming out of Southern Mexico most of the time. Many are set up to catch people heading South also.

The problem on the border is that the border towns are the bottlenecks for drugs passing into the USA. All the drugs coming from all the Southern Mexican cartels funnel into these poor border cities. They do not want the Southern Mexicans taking their products North into their cities either. That is why the big cartels from the South sent men North to protect their routes and crossing points. Much to the dismay of cities like Tijuana and Juarez where they depended very much on the tourists. It would be like if Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta and Cancun were the crossing points into the USA. They would be sending their people into those cities to fight for crossing areas and routes. All the drugs and the big drug lords are from Southern Mexico. Cancun and Veracruz and many of these cities are basically bought and paid for by the cartels already. It is the routes that they are fighting over more then anything. They pay police and higher ups to let their drugs pass North. I have seen it in a video where they were paying off customs officials to get their products heading North on passenger buses.

The violence could hit Mexico City hard as it is written in this article. All cities in Mexico are ticking time bombs. Many and I am sure you too, do not want to acknowledge it. Everything is in place in Mexico, even the the Narco's selling the drugs there. I hope it does not because if it doe's I will be forced to leave Mexico.

If you look at all the largest drug Cartels they are from Southern Mexico. The thing is there are so many people in the big cities that it is easier for them to hide and set up shop. Even Guadalajara has seen some heavy drug action and murders in the last year. Road blocks and cars set on fire. Right next door to Mexico City. Lots of drug buyers and customers to be found in Mexico City. Mexico is a drug sellers dream for making money off drugs.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/17/world/americas/...
pinchejuan

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Jan 8, 2013
 
Concerned, California and Washington state are leading the way out of the wilderness. In the '20s, the violence spawned by alcohol Prohibition threatened to bring down order in the US, from the Pendergast cartel in Kansas City to the Purple Gang cartel in Detroit to Capone in Chicago - well, the list goes on and on. Once the cannabis Prohibition ends, the hard drug portion of the cartel business is too small to support the current level of activity.
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Jan 8, 2013
 
pinchejuan wrote:
Concerned, California and Washington state are leading the way out of the wilderness. In the '20s, the violence spawned by alcohol Prohibition threatened to bring down order in the US, from the Pendergast cartel in Kansas City to the Purple Gang cartel in Detroit to Capone in Chicago - well, the list goes on and on. Once the cannabis Prohibition ends, the hard drug portion of the cartel business is too small to support the current level of activity.
I hope you are right. I have a group of friends here in Mexico that are citizens. Many believe as I do that they now have weapons and power and will jack up their kidnappings and extortion if they legalize drugs in the USA. Mexico also has a huge drug problem and they could push them even more here. The bad guys that have all these high powered weapons can splinter off and start gangs like there are many of now in Mexico. They could make life real sad here in Mexico if they wanted. Thousands of these groups would be hard to track down and take out. The current gangs which are many is overwhelming. Extortion and kidnappings throughout Mexico is epidemic.

I talked to a good friend who came to my house to visit today. His brother was one of my best friends. He died in a car accident 3 years ago. All the members this his family do well. Very intelligent and educated. His sister and her husband and children just moved to El Paso and are starting up a business there. They are afraid they will be killed, and from the way they have been persecuted I am sure they would have been if they had stayed.
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Jan 8, 2013
 
The rum runners in the US were also very well armed. Once they no longer had widespread public support for providing a widely demanded product, they were mostly rolled up - I mean, the mob still existed but with only a fraction of its previous power. The other factor is the return to power of PRI. PRI is a highly efficient criminal enterprise which will quickly start rubbing out the competition.

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