Female Homicides on the Rise in Mexico

Female Homicides on the Rise in Mexico

There are 44 comments on the Global Voices Online story from Apr 26, 2013, titled Female Homicides on the Rise in Mexico. In it, Global Voices Online reports that:

Violeta, an 18-year-old student, was found [es] dead on a dirt road in the state of Chiapas with signs of violence on her body.

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Serrano Red

Perryton, TX

#1 Apr 26, 2013
mexican men are natural rapers and killers
Eduardo

Mexico

#2 Apr 26, 2013
Serrano Red wrote:
mexican men are natural rapers and killers
rappers? at least we aren't rapists!
Serrano Red

Perryton, TX

#3 Apr 26, 2013
sure are 70% of mexican women are raped before they are 15
King beaner

Reynosa, Mexico

#4 Apr 28, 2013
Serrano Red wrote:
sure are 70% of mexican women are raped before they are 15
Where do you get those number from?
Sanchez

Kansas City, MO

#5 Jun 24, 2013
Ignorance is at play here!! Really?? "Mexican men are natural rapers and killers"??? I think not...Being a victim of rape or a "raper" has nothing to do with being Mexican!! Do you not know how many violent people there are in this world? Violence, rape, murder, etc. doesn't only happen in Mexico! Wake up Serrano Red!!!
mztza

Glendale, AZ

#6 Jul 2, 2013
the facts are from the mexican media, programs, radio, reporters,

say that 90% of mexican men from mexico
abuse, rape, torture, beat, kidnapped, sold, enslave, sell their babies, murder,
75% female children before they reach 15yrs old
and who are these monsters
1. fathers
2. uncles
3. brothers
4. first cousins
5. brother-in-laws
6. grandfathers
7. compadres
8. godfathers
9. boyfriends
10. husbands
the odds are against all females
it's called FEMNICIDE
extermination of all females
the standing statistics from the whole world, point of view, based on facts
MEXICAN men in mexico, has made mexico
the number one murder capitol of WOMEN in the world
believe or not, either ignore or acknowledge it,
it is still
A FACT based on FACTS


well

Hamilton, Canada

#7 Jul 2, 2013
Good. This means less Mexicans/criminals will be born.
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#8 Jul 2, 2013
the facts are from the mexican media, programs, radio, reporters,

say that 90% of mexican men from mexico
abuse, rape, torture, beat, kidnapped, sold, enslave, sell their babies, murder,
75% female children before they reach 15yrs old
and who are these monsters
1. fathers
2. uncles
3. brothers
4. first cousins
5. brother-in-laws
6. grandfathers
7. compadres
8. godfathers
9. boyfriends
10. husbands
the odds are against all females
If it is so easy to bring one of these news, why don't you bring one?
mztza
Glendale, AZ
Arizona is place full of snake and scorpions. I don't plan to travel there in my life.
mztza

Glendale, AZ

#9 Jul 11, 2013
Sirius wrote:
<quoted text>
If it is so easy to bring one of these news, why don't you bring one?
<quoted text>
Arizona is place full of snake and scorpions. I don't plan to travel there in my life.
why thankyou, that would help arizona without you here,
i totally agree, arizona and the whole U.S.A. is
15% in those kinds of crimes
but in MEXICO it's
90% of misogynists, who practice
FEMINICIDE
rated by mexico and the
WHOLE WORLD
are you proud, of your country, for that honor
and your COMPADRES

Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#10 Jul 12, 2013
mztza wrote:
<quoted text>
why thankyou, that would help arizona without you here,
i totally agree, arizona and the whole U.S.A. is
15% in those kinds of crimes
but in MEXICO it's
90% of misogynists, who practice
FEMINICIDE
rated by mexico and the
WHOLE WORLD
are you proud, of your country, for that honor
and your COMPADRES
I request again, please bring some hard data and facts about what you say. If you want to express what is in your sick mind, that's your right, but you have to know that there will be people that will retort to your claims.

I went to Arizona once, making some economic and financial studies. Didn't find real bad people and I wasn't really misstreated.

But it is not a place where I would live if I have a choice,... and it is because there are many (sick, racist) people like you. So don't worry that I go to Arizona soon.

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Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#11 Jul 12, 2013
By the way, in Mexico there are places like Ciudad Juarez which is famous for what you say (Feminicide), most of the bodies are found less than 2 kilometers away from the US border.

I wonder what the Juareños are learning from such proximity to the USA. Surely is not "civilization" or any positive thing.

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In Mexico there are living 1 million US expats, half of them women... and I don't see them running away if your generalizations, your want-to-see-us as Monsters, were true.

Surely in Arizona you have people like Arpaio, and Breuer (or Bruer, or whatever) which win claps and cheers because they express the racist and anti-Mexican feeling of many Arizonans.

Surely, too, this is due by a large number of ragtag people that desperately jump the fence thinking they will find there pure honey and flakes... instead of racism, explotation and hate.

But - believe me - there are Mexicans that know in advance what you could find there in Arizona.

;-)
mztza

Glendale, AZ

#12 Jul 12, 2013
Sirius wrote:
By the way, in Mexico there are places like Ciudad Juarez which is famous for what you say (Feminicide), most of the bodies are found less than 2 kilometers away from the US border.
I wonder what the Juareños are learning from such proximity to the USA. Surely is not "civilization" or any positive thing.
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In Mexico there are living 1 million US expats, half of them women... and I don't see them running away if your generalizations, your want-to-see-us as Monsters, were true.
Surely in Arizona you have people like Arpaio, and Breuer (or Bruer, or whatever) which win claps and cheers because they express the racist and anti-Mexican feeling of many Arizonans.
Surely, too, this is due by a large number of ragtag people that desperately jump the fence thinking they will find there pure honey and flakes... instead of racism, explotation and hate.
But - believe me - there are Mexicans that know in advance what you could find there in Arizona.
;-)
interesting,
never, realised that people still have blinders on, with tunnel vision,
you just don't want to accept, the serious reality of the situation in MEXICO
individuals like yourself, want to ALWAYS pretend it's not as bad, even when your in knee deep
usually, individuals like yourself never do anything to make things better,
the best you do, is to ignore, look the otherway, pretend you know nothing, or it's always somebody else fault, other places are more worse
now, i ask you,
where can these women for generations, from birth to death, that have been beaten, enslaved, tortured,
where can they go, where can they get help, where can they be safe in mexico, not even your own authorities will help,
you want hard data, just read your newspapers, from all over mexico,
do your own HOMEWORK
ask your own government why did they rate that 90% of mexican men in mexico commit all these atrocities
ask them why is mexico rated in the world
number one the murder capital of WOMEN
and it's still going on
if you don't want anybody to know whats going on in your country, tell your media,
to hide, lie, don't print, make excuses, and to make sure the bodies are never found, and for the families of murdered girls,
not to cry, scream, or tell anybody, their daughter was
tortured, raped, gutted, dump in garbage, sold into prostitution,
pretend everything is fine and lie lie lie and keep lying
even when they find mass graves of young women, in chiapas, morelos, chihuahua, df, all over mexico,
just pretend it's a conspiracy propogated by racists,
would that help, to make others believe it's just a conspiracy, made up by the whole WORLD
then go for it,
when you open your mouth, blowing hot air tell your media
to take out the title of
FEMINICIDE committed in mexico for over 20yrs
Eduardo

Torreón, Mexico

#13 Jul 12, 2013
I have to read the whole post just to make sure that, indeed, he couldn't post any sources for his statements.

One like this:
http://www.genevadeclaration.org/fileadmin/do...

page 113:
In Mexico women are 10% of the victims of homicides, in USA they are 23%

page 114:
"Guatemala and Mexico’s Ciudad Juarez
exhibit staggering numbers of women victims and
exceptional brutality. In these contexts, intimate
partner violence accounts for a relatively small
proportion of femicides (Suarez and Jordan, 2007);
many women are victims of the increasingly widespread violence related to organized crime and
narco-traf&#64257;cking "

page 120:
top countries with the highest rates of female homicide in the world. You can check for yourself if Mexico is in that list.
mztza

Glendale, AZ

#14 Jul 12, 2013
Eduardo wrote:
I have to read the whole post just to make sure that, indeed, he couldn't post any sources for his statements.
One like this:
http://www.genevadeclaration.org/fileadmin/do...
page 113:
In Mexico women are 10% of the victims of homicides, in USA they are 23%
page 114:
"Guatemala and Mexico&#8217;s Ciudad Juarez
exhibit staggering numbers of women victims and
exceptional brutality. In these contexts, intimate
partner violence accounts for a relatively small
proportion of femicides (Suarez and Jordan, 2007);
many women are victims of the increasingly widespread violence related to organized crime and
narco-traf&#64257;cking "
page 120:
top countries with the highest rates of female homicide in the world. You can check for yourself if Mexico is in that list.
interesting, you need to let your mexican media, that the genevadeclaration has based this on info that is completely out dated
that what has been rated in the world about mexico,
is false,
just explain it to the women with murdered or disappeared daughters,
that it's only 10%
and it is not 90% as of 2012 as it was stated in the international community for womens rights
and the second country to be practicing feminicide at 88%
is the middle eastern countries, look it up,
but mexico is still 90% in the world
facts are facts, make sure they are updated,
it really helps, false information, doesn't help to remedy the situation
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#15 Jul 12, 2013
Thank you @Eduardo, those are hard data.

10% of homicides in Mexico are women. 23% of homicides in the USA are women.

So I see we are not that bad in that "hate towards women that this crazy wants to purport.

Regards.
Eduardo

Torreón, Mexico

#16 Jul 12, 2013
And again, no sources were provided.
Eduardo

Torreón, Mexico

#17 Jul 12, 2013
"SINCE 2006, the murder rate in Mexico has risen sharply and, apparently, inexorably. Has it now plateaued? Last year saw 22,200 murders, only slightly up on 2010's total of 20,600. This isn't exactly cheerful news. But it is at least encouraging that the high rate of increase of previous years was not repeated."

http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2...

"Mexico’s murder rate declines, border towns still plagued by violence"

"Mexico’s murder rate: Worst areas are near US-Mexico border"

http://www.voxxi.com/mexicos-murder-rate-decl...

See? posting sources isn't that hard, and I am not the one having to deal with the burden of proof because I am not the accusing part.
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#18 Jul 12, 2013
Let's breakdown your text...
interesting,
never, realised that people still have blinders on, with tunnel vision,
you just don't want to accept, the serious reality of the situation in MEXICO
individuals like yourself, want to ALWAYS pretend it's not as bad, even when your in knee deep
usually, individuals like yourself never do anything to make things better,
the best you do, is to ignore, look the otherway, pretend you know nothing, or it's always somebody else fault, other places are more worse
Seems that you think to know a lot of me. Maybe some of what you say is truth. Nobody is perfect.
now, i ask you,
where can these women for generations, from birth to death, that have been beaten, enslaved, tortured,
where can they go, where can they get help, where can they be safe in mexico, not even your own authorities will help,
Have you ever been in Mexico?

You talk about women beaten: Well, eventually someone would beat a woman here. We have laws against it.

You talk about women "enslaved"... I don't know what you talk about. Slavery ended in Mexico 50 years before tan in the USA. Maybe you mean something like "sexual slavery"? We have laws against that, and I don't think our problems with that are worse than in many other places.

You talk about women "tortured"... frankly, I am trying to make sense of what you say, but it is very hard.

Eventually some women are abused in Mexico, in all those ways, as in any other place... but you keep talking about a "90%", of I don't know what !!!
you want hard data, just read your newspapers, from all over mexico,
do your own HOMEWORK
ask your own government why did they rate that 90% of mexican men in mexico commit all these atrocities
You say that 90% of Mexican men commit those things you are claiming?

You are nutts.

Now it is my time to play hardball, and say some generalizations (but which I deem as very likely):

Most probably you are a feminist male-hating lesbian, who spend all your day Reading "Ms. Magazine", and filling your mind of politiziced hate toward Mexican men, and I imagine, males in general.

But don't take me wrong:

(a.) It is not bad to be a lesbian.
(b.) It is not bad to be a feminist.

Actually, feminism is just a very wide blanket that covers a lot of ideologies and political ideas centered on women. Many of those movements actually appeal me as very interesting intellectually and pretty much in accordance with my own ethical flavor.

However, I simply cannot agree with the very particular kind : "male hatting feminist lesbian".

I believe that Mexico is advancing a lot in liberalization of sexual and genus "minorities" (we in Mexico do not have the concept of "minority" similar to that of the USA, but I am trying to use a language you could understand). Every year there are new advances in legislation for protection of homosexuals and women. I think that is good. Really.

However, as a Mexican who prizes itself to have read and compared what happens in other...
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#19 Jul 12, 2013
(continues...)

... places, I think that there is a "middle term". I consider my self somehow liberal... but I don't will see gladly in my country seeing what too much politiziced feminism have done in places like Spain and Sweden.

People that read this from those countries will know what I am talking about.

Again: I am just saying, that while I see gladly that legislation in Mexico is advancing in protection and rights of women and homosexual... for my taste there could be a point where males run the danger of being abused and treated with unfairness.

We still are somehow distant from that, but I wanted to clarify.
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#20 Jul 12, 2013
Now, I think that there is no much to say.

If you bring some serious sources that "90% of Mexican males commit attrocities against women", or that "90% of women are tortured, enslaved, etc.", maybe we could comment on that.

I also could "politizise" the theme. But so far I want to live it to that.

Waiting for those serious sources.

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