Rapper convicted in Mac Dre-related slaying

A Las Vegas jury has found a San Francisco rap music figure guilty of slaying a Kansas City rival in what authorities called a West Coast versus Midwest rap war sparked by the shooting of Vallejo-bred rapper ... Full Story
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Since: Mar 08

Vallejo

#1 Jul 22, 2008
Too bad the people killed in retaliation for Mac Dre's murder didn't have sh!t to do with it.

RIP Mac Dre, Fat Tone & Cowboy.
DHH

San Diego, CA

#2 Jul 22, 2008
Rapper, yeah right, how bout lowlife wangster,
Lotsa Paypa

Andover, MA

#3 Jul 22, 2008
I never really got why all of a sudden when Mac Dre died, they considered him to be a Bay Area Rap "factor" or "legend" in the rap game. With all due respect, he wasn't that well known outside of Vallejo. I am a Bay Area native, listened to rap music growing up (i am in my early 30's) and the only thing I can remember ever hearing from Mac Dre was "Too Hard for The Radio."

R.I.P. Mac Dre. but let's be honest, he wasn't very well known in the world when he was alive.
Larissa

Napa, CA

#4 Jul 22, 2008
Lotsa Paypa wrote:
I never really got why all of a sudden when Mac Dre died, they considered him to be a Bay Area Rap "factor" or "legend" in the rap game. With all due respect, he wasn't that well known outside of Vallejo. I am a Bay Area native, listened to rap music growing up (i am in my early 30's) and the only thing I can remember ever hearing from Mac Dre was "Too Hard for The Radio."
R.I.P. Mac Dre. but let's be honest, he wasn't very well known in the world when he was alive.
I used to think that too but actually he was probably more noticed outside of the Bay then in the Bay. There's a whole underground hip hop scene in places like Oregon and Kansas.

It's too bad he was in the game all those years and just when the movement he created started to take off - he died. That's how the devil do ya tho.

The Bay rap game ain't the same without him.
RE Lotsa paypa

Concord, CA

#5 Jul 22, 2008
You are out of your mind, that how you know you dont know SSHHHIITTT about Bay Area Rap,, I have been to Shy-Town / New York / FL. and every where I have been they all know who Mac Dre is ,,, watch the Tribute to Dre everyone from Jim JOnes to the Ying Yang twins talk about him and give him love.
Stop being a hater,,, and dont go away mad just go away.
RIP Mac Dre.
TickyTack

Burbank, CA

#6 Jul 22, 2008
These dudes sure are some good role models. And people wonder why the dropout rate is so high - go figure.
formerly from Vallejo

United States

#7 Jul 22, 2008
I guess Rap music does promote violence. Thinning of the herd.
Nameless

San Ramon, CA

#8 Jul 22, 2008
The million dollar question is.........WHAT DID MAC DRE do for our community aside from giving them the impression that taking dope (thizzin) was cool? You have a lot of youngsters (3rd generation of low lifes from COUNTRY CLUB CREST) thinking it's cool to act a fool, not go to school, sell dope, pimp, go stupid....YOU NAME IT! Further more, what has E-40 or CC done for the community? With all of the $$ all 3 of them have made and continue to make....why won't they renovate the Boys and Girls club or build a new youth center and show them what a real LEGACY is!! How naive can all of the people who support the Thizz Nation be? Grow the hell up!
Springs Road Resident

Union City, CA

#9 Jul 22, 2008
Who cares, the posturing of the hip-hop (Gangster Rap Community) is a denigration to black people specifically and American Culture in general. Don't believe it, watch the news each morning when yet another young life is snuffed out, 2 this morning in Oakland. And you wonder why the the dropout rate is so high in Vallejo and California. Sheesh.
Springs Road Resident

Union City, CA

#10 Jul 22, 2008
RE Lotsa paypa wrote:
You are out of your mind, that how you know you dont know SSHHHIITTT about Bay Area Rap,, I have been to Shy-Town / New York / FL. and every where I have been they all know who Mac Dre is ,,, watch the Tribute to Dre everyone from Jim JOnes to the Ying Yang twins talk about him and give him love.
Stop being a hater,,, and dont go away mad just go away.
RIP Mac Dre.
Shut up already you ignorant F***!
GetReal

Vallejo, CA

#11 Jul 22, 2008
Blessings to the family of Andre Hicks (MacDre), who I knew all his life. Family, while I know this conviction can't heal the pain of losing Andre, I pray that it closes a chapter on many sad years.
Lotsa Paypa

Andover, MA

#12 Jul 22, 2008
You are obviously a product of the Vallejo School District so I will excuse your ignorance.

As I stated, with all due respect. I understand that a few people "knew" of Mac Dre, but it was sot due to his rap career, mostly due to his other extra curricular activities: Drug Dlealing and Prostitution. Do I know Bay Area rap? You're damn right I do!! Only a few have made any money from it..Too Short, E40, Digital Underground, and although folks would like to count him out...MC Hammer. With that said, none of them have done anything of substance for their community...

Okay, E40 donated some music equipment to his old high school. That was nice. But what about an outreach center for the Bay Area youth, or at the very least, the youth in their community. A program that not only provides music, but sports as well. Just a thought...

Anyway, no disrespect to the Mac Dre fans. Here are a few BA rappers I can thnk of from back in the day...

Spice One
E40 and The Click
Totally Insane
415 (w/ Richie Rich, D-Loc)
A.P.G.
Chunk
The Mac
Cougnut
RE Lotsa paypa wrote:
You are out of your mind, that how you know you dont know SSHHHIITTT about Bay Area Rap,, I have been to Shy-Town / New York / FL. and every where I have been they all know who Mac Dre is ,,, watch the Tribute to Dre everyone from Jim JOnes to the Ying Yang twins talk about him and give him love.
Stop being a hater,,, and dont go away mad just go away.
RIP Mac Dre.
Vallejo Stranger

Oakland, CA

#13 Jul 22, 2008
With all due respect Mac Dre was very instrumental in getting the Bay Rap scene going. Just because you weren't keeping up with his moves. Too hard for the radio...r u serious? That was his FIRST hit. LOL! There was never a place to do concerts or promote music in the Bay safely in the 90's once Dre got out of jail. So they had to venture out and found places that loved the Bay music. Places that were mentioned like Oregon, Kansas, and ones that weren't like Seattle, Texas, New Mexico, Hawaii and Utah...yes Utah!
Dre and the rest of Thizz (Dubee, PSD, Miami, Kilo, Big Dante, etc) were branching out to these places. Dre never wanted to sign to a big label just to sign and go worldwide. He wanted to grow his Thizz label and focused on the places that loved the music and let the rest of the world come on board. And if you listen close rappers give it up to Dre all the time from T-pain, Rick Ross and Lil Wayne all who performed with Dre before they blew up and he was alive. Check yo history.

"Record labels want me to sign, but I'm signed to Thizz and Thizz is mine"---Err Thang
Lotsa Paypa wrote:
I never really got why all of a sudden when Mac Dre died, they considered him to be a Bay Area Rap "factor" or "legend" in the rap game. With all due respect, he wasn't that well known outside of Vallejo. I am a Bay Area native, listened to rap music growing up (i am in my early 30's) and the only thing I can remember ever hearing from Mac Dre was "Too Hard for The Radio."
R.I.P. Mac Dre. but let's be honest, he wasn't very well known in the world when he was alive.
Vallejo Stranger

Oakland, CA

#14 Jul 22, 2008
Dude, when did you STOP listening to Bay Area Rap...in 1990? The Mac who was Mac Dre's inspiration killed in 85'. Nearly your whole list hasn't made an album since 95' with the exception of 40 and $hort. Even though Richie Rich is still doing his thing. MC Hammer and Digital Underground....wow! Now I know you stopped in the early 90's. What about Messy Marv, San Quinn, Mistah FAB, Mac Mall, Yukmouth, Keak da Sneak (from 3x Krazy u should remember them)and $hort. I look at longevity and not just an old school rapper who made one or two songs sorry. Everyone on my list was still rapping in your old school days minus Fab and are still doing it today. Your list is dried up and played out minus 40 and $hort.
Lotsa Paypa wrote:
You are obviously a product of the Vallejo School District so I will excuse your ignorance.
As I stated, with all due respect. I understand that a few people "knew" of Mac Dre, but it was sot due to his rap career, mostly due to his other extra curricular activities: Drug Dlealing and Prostitution. Do I know Bay Area rap? You're damn right I do!! Only a few have made any money from it..Too Short, E40, Digital Underground, and although folks would like to count him out...MC Hammer. With that said, none of them have done anything of substance for their community...
Okay, E40 donated some music equipment to his old high school. That was nice. But what about an outreach center for the Bay Area youth, or at the very least, the youth in their community. A program that not only provides music, but sports as well. Just a thought...
Anyway, no disrespect to the Mac Dre fans. Here are a few BA rappers I can thnk of from back in the day...
Spice One
E40 and The Click
Totally Insane
415 (w/ Richie Rich, D-Loc)
A.P.G.
Chunk
The Mac
Cougnut
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Lotsa Paypa

Andover, MA

#15 Jul 22, 2008
Haha! Okay, you made me laugh for real!(really) But Mac Dre is considered old School and he came onto the scene w/ the rappers on my list. THAT is why I mentioned those old school Bay Area rappers. Got it?

Sorry to bust your bubble but no one in Oakland and San Francisco was bumpin his underground music before he died. But once he died, then yes of course, the Bay Area started bumpin his music in the streets. Isn't that how it always goes?You must be speaking for Vallejo, Richmond, Fairfield, ect.
Vallejo Stranger wrote:
Dude, when did you STOP listening to Bay Area Rap...in 1990? The Mac who was Mac Dre's inspiration killed in 85'. Nearly your whole list hasn't made an album since 95' with the exception of 40 and $hort. Even though Richie Rich is still doing his thing. MC Hammer and Digital Underground....wow! Now I know you stopped in the early 90's. What about Messy Marv, San Quinn, Mistah FAB, Mac Mall, Yukmouth, Keak da Sneak (from 3x Krazy u should remember them)and $hort. I look at longevity and not just an old school rapper who made one or two songs sorry. Everyone on my list was still rapping in your old school days minus Fab and are still doing it today. Your list is dried up and played out minus 40 and $hort.
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RE Lotsa Paypa

Concord, CA

#16 Jul 22, 2008
Your right I am a product of the Vallejo School system and with that being said I have a Master Degree in Criminal Justice. I am sorry that you dont know much about Bay Area Rap and that you live some where else but Mac Dre was known more for his music than anything tough guy. As far as you knowing Bay Area music ,, LOL!!! Thats pretty funny considering all the names you left off the list.

2-Pac
Souls of Mischief
The Coup
Baby Bash
Mac Mall
Funky Aztecs
JT the Bigga Figga
RBL
Zion I
Del tha Funkee Homosapien
The Luniz ( Yukmouth )
( and plenty more )

Your knowledge is limited so stop speaking on something you know nothing about. There are plenty more Bay Area artist who made some money and had air play through out the nation.,,, the fact that you left 2-pac off your so called list lets US know you must have just visited the Bay and have never lived here!
Lotsa Paypa

Andover, MA

#17 Jul 22, 2008
Dude are you kidding me with this list:

Messy Marv,
San Quinn,
Mistah FAB,
Mac Mall,
Yukmouth,
Keak da Sneak (stole rap style from SF's Cougnut)

These clowns are Bay Area rappers, okay...so anyone who raps and happens to reside in the Bay Area is a Bay Area rapper then right? Are you saying you don't even have to be good to be considered a "Bay Area rapper"?

San Quinn, he is laughable. And I'm from San Francisco. Your list is less than mediocre. My list was just old school BA rappers.
Vallejo Stranger wrote:
Dude, when did you STOP listening to Bay Area Rap...in 1990? The Mac who was Mac Dre's inspiration killed in 85'. Nearly your whole list hasn't made an album since 95' with the exception of 40 and $hort. Even though Richie Rich is still doing his thing. MC Hammer and Digital Underground....wow! Now I know you stopped in the early 90's. What about Messy Marv, San Quinn, Mistah FAB, Mac Mall, Yukmouth, Keak da Sneak (from 3x Krazy u should remember them)and $hort. I look at longevity and not just an old school rapper who made one or two songs sorry. Everyone on my list was still rapping in your old school days minus Fab and are still doing it today. Your list is dried up and played out minus 40 and $hort.
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BigDaddy

Richmond, CA

#18 Jul 22, 2008
Question. You finally make it. Making money. If you can helping the family. Nice home maybe two. Bills paid. Nice car.

Why shoot a gun.

Am I just out of touch with the world. Do you have to die to make it. Someone young on this blog explain to a Al Green James Brown Aretha Frankly Gladys Knight lover why the east coast west coast i kill you thing. What does dissing really mean.

Old school. I guess I am really old old school.
Lotsa Paypa

Andover, MA

#19 Jul 22, 2008
Okay you have a degree and know of some Bay ARea rappers, but do you make any money with it? Do you own any property? If you have children, do your children attend public or private school? You are not even worthy of my attention chump. Conversation over.

You win. Ha!
RE Lotsa Paypa wrote:
Your right I am a product of the Vallejo School system and with that being said I have a Master Degree in Criminal Justice. I am sorry that you dont know much about Bay Area Rap and that you live some where else but Mac Dre was known more for his music than anything tough guy. As far as you knowing Bay Area music ,, LOL!!! Thats pretty funny considering all the names you left off the list.
2-Pac
Souls of Mischief
The Coup
Baby Bash
Mac Mall
Funky Aztecs
JT the Bigga Figga
RBL
Zion I
Del tha Funkee Homosapien
The Luniz ( Yukmouth )
( and plenty more )
Your knowledge is limited so stop speaking on something you know nothing about. There are plenty more Bay Area artist who made some money and had air play through out the nation.,,, the fact that you left 2-pac off your so called list lets US know you must have just visited the Bay and have never lived here!
Haha

San Francisco, CA

#20 Jul 22, 2008
Lotsa Paypa doesn't know s!!t anbout Bay Area Rap since he listed dudes that were cool back in '92. Haha that is funny. And I do have a degree , have a good job, own 4 properties, and have 1 child when old enough will go to a good school. And all this still kept up with Bay Area music. I don't have time to make a list of current rappers right now ,but if you like I can make one no f'in problem buddy..

Thizz in Peace "Dre"
Mac Dre fan since 1989

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