Ja Rule's 'Unruly' path from jail to Christianity

There are 20 comments on the CNN story from Jul 16, 2014, titled Ja Rule's 'Unruly' path from jail to Christianity. In it, CNN reports that:

Some were surprised to learn that rapper Ja Rule, once best known for being the brash star of Murder Inc. Records, was raised by Jehovah's Witnesses, as he revealed in his memoir "Unruly: The Highs and Lows of Becoming a Man."

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ChristOnly

Sacramento, CA

#22 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Man-made religion, tell me, you're not associated with any religion right!? You worship Jesus alone right!?
Im not associated with any man made religion, i go to a building for edification and encouragement with other Christians. We follow no dictates of men, no extra books written by men, no governing counsel of men. Can you say the same?
ChristOnly

Sacramento, CA

#23 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Christ has a congregation and that congregation is not spread throughout the throngs of professed Christianity. Rather it's right amongst the Jehovah's Witnesses and if you leave that congregation you leave Jesus. Can't have Jesus without his brothers.
You cannot produce any other reference about your faith outside of what your founders say about themselves. Mormons have Joseph Smith, Jehovah Witnesses have Joseph Rutherford. Mormons have an invisible book from the forest giving their leaders authority, Jehovah Witnesses have an invisible Jesus inspection giving your leaders authority. Your paragraph is funny.
ChristOnly

Sacramento, CA

#24 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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BINGO! You don't have to believe it, it's quite alright no skin off my back..
Christians - "If you leave Jesus you won't be saved"
Jehovah's Witnesses - "We are the only true Christians, you can't have Jesus without congregating with his true people."
If you can prove from the bible I can intentionally worship Jesus alone, not cause of circumstances, but literally never have to worship with others in any way form or fashion, I will denounce being one of Jehovah's Witnesses today!
"Jehovah's Witnesses - "We are the only true Christians, you can't have Jesus without congregating with his true people."

Guess if you say it enough times you'll believe it.....indoctrination 101

“God Saves, Watchtower Lies”

Since: Nov 12

Ashland, OH

#25 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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lol you don't even know what the good news is or what Paul was talking about.
False. I directly quoted what the real gospel is straight from scripture to your pal TheMadDub. The real gospel has nothing to do with some 1914 nonsense your clergymen made up.

Also, i do know what Paul was talking about. He was talking about how religions like the watchtower are cursed for spreading a false gospel. Also, your religion is antichrist in nature as evidenced by their spectacle of rejecting Christ that they hold once per year.

Since: Sep 13

United States

#26 Jul 18, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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(Hebrews 12:11).&#8239;.&#8239; ., no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful; yet afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
He was a child at the time his mom was "disciplined' by her family. He got the blowback and he wasn't baptised or a publisher. He sure did get a "witness' though, didn't he?

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#27 Jul 18, 2014
Covered wrote:
<quoted text>He was a child at the time his mom was "disciplined' by her family. He got the blowback and he wasn't baptised or a publisher. He sure did get a "witness' though, didn't he?
Instead of being bitter, he should study the bible and see why things went down the way they did, but judging from the article he won't. He would rather go to "come as you are" disco ball hanging, run of the mill, believe in the LORD JEZZUZ, gyrating hips and spinning on the floor, and speaking gibberish churches!

Since: Sep 13

United States

#28 Jul 18, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Instead of being bitter, he should study the bible and see why things went down the way they did, but judging from the article he won't. He would rather go to "come as you are" disco ball hanging, run of the mill, believe in the LORD JEZZUZ, gyrating hips and spinning on the floor, and speaking gibberish churches!
In one interview about JaRule, he was mentioning how the family refused to speak to his mom after she left the religion (grandparents were watching him while she was in universityHey, Paul was a great advocate of bringing people to Christ and meeting them as they were. Not that I noticed that the church he mentioned was gyrating hips and spinning on the floor or speaking gibberish.

I would say that he has started learning more-and that it was going to church that led him to follow Jesus-he saw love there that he thought, because of his experience in the KH, was not real. He recognizes that he needs to make changes, as does his pastor. Nothing wrong with starting your walk in the right direction. Sure beats continuing alone his unruly path. Not everyone becomes a Christian and instantly gets a ill fitting polysester suit and tie and a baptist boys hair cut and waving a bible around. I read an article where he mentioned he was concerned about a fellow rapper who was also a minister and whose music veered back into the land of crass. He is questioning how that fits into things, and it is "pinching his conscience" as to his own walk. Isn't that the purpose of learning about righteousness and God? To start moving our consciences to 'do the right thing'?

Paul said he was all things to all people. I guess a pastor in NYC has to meet people where they are and having been to NYC, I would say that he knows what he is doing. I also know that there are all kinds of churches and all kinds of stages of life. I have been a part of those churches with an active music ministry and they do attract a certain crowd. But folks grow up, grow in different directions and find different ways of focusing their faith as they grow in it. I know a former musician in a Pentecostal church (pretty mild Pentecostals) is now a pastor in a Calvary church-still has music, but different crowd, different way to focus. Even in that Pentecostal church, they did preach about following Jesus. Unfortunately, they were a little self focused too, and that eventually resulted in folks finding churches that were less about the pastors personality and more faith focused(the danger or charismatic personalities is that they can start believing they are something special and lose the humility they should have before God). I think those moves are a result of spiritual growth-which happened even in that church with its weaknesses. The basic message was there.

This is a very diverse world we live in. More so even than the ancient church experienced in the Mediterranean and Africa. Christians are not homogenized and forcing them into suits with bookbags is not changing hearts.

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#29 Jul 18, 2014
Covered wrote:
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This is a very diverse world we live in. More so even than the ancient church experienced in the Mediterranean and Africa. Christians are not homogenized and forcing them into suits with bookbags is not changing hearts.
"The American Indians, in their simplicity, will quite often literally give away all that they have - to relatives, to guests of other tribes or clans, but above all to the poor and the aged, from whom they can hope for no return.

It is our belief that the love of possessions is a weakness to be overcome. It's appeal is to the material part, and if allowed its way, it will in time disturb one's spiritual balance. Therefore, children must early learn the beauty of generosity. They are taught to give what they prize most, that they may taste the happiness of giving".......Charles Alexander Eastman (Ohiyesa)

Since: Sep 13

United States

#30 Jul 18, 2014
Nedoba wrote:
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"The American Indians, in their simplicity, will quite often literally give away all that they have - to relatives, to guests of other tribes or clans, but above all to the poor and the aged, from whom they can hope for no return.
It is our belief that the love of possessions is a weakness to be overcome. It's appeal is to the material part, and if allowed its way, it will in time disturb one's spiritual balance. Therefore, children must early learn the beauty of generosity. They are taught to give what they prize most, that they may taste the happiness of giving".......Charles Alexander Eastman (Ohiyesa)
Arabic hospitality is similar. When working in the Middle East, our company warned us not to compliment our hosts about their cars or watches or any possession-because it messed up all the company's ethical rules about accepting expensive gifts when the local shaikh gave employees a BMW or rolex watch. And NOT accepting it was a terrible insult. So, being silent was best:) A co-worker accepted an extremely discounted car (Arab friend/coworkers family owned large auto dealerships) and kept it, but lost his job.(Land Cruiser).

Since: Sep 13

United States

#31 Jul 18, 2014
I love the kind of giving that the native culture believes in. Its beautiful. In Egypt, poor people will eat nothing but veggies for weeks so that they can give a guest a feast. I have seen how native American families take care of each other and extended family. Living in the PNW, there are a lot of native american commuities scattered about. My own NA blood is pretty diluted, but I have actually heard a few stories about the great grandmom that are remnicent of the kinds of things you mentioned, Nedoba.
There is a simplicity and humbleness of heart in all of that that is not common in most societies and yet has some grand moments in every society.

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#32 Jul 18, 2014
Covered wrote:
<quoted text>Arabic hospitality is similar. When working in the Middle East, our company warned us not to compliment our hosts about their cars or watches or any possession-because it messed up all the company's ethical rules about accepting expensive gifts when the local shaikh gave employees a BMW or rolex watch. And NOT accepting it was a terrible insult. So, being silent was best:) A co-worker accepted an extremely discounted car (Arab friend/coworkers family owned large auto dealerships) and kept it, but lost his job.(Land Cruiser).
That is so interesting to learn! I can see how some regional customs and traditions being quite different......could really cause difficulties in certain circumstances, LOL! I bet this would make an interesting subject to do a study on :o)
El Cacique

Bronx, NY

#33 Jul 18, 2014
Oh, yes!........Ja Rule seems so enlightened.

ROTFL!

He has some hot girls in his video...But, they're portraying themselves as tramps.

His lyrics are so spiritually progressive. Aren't they?...LOL!



Show me a better life and hope and then you're welcome to come and talk to me about how JW's are so horrible.

Until then.....Get lost!

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#34 Jul 18, 2014
Covered wrote:
I love the kind of giving that the native culture believes in. Its beautiful. In Egypt, poor people will eat nothing but veggies for weeks so that they can give a guest a feast. I have seen how native American families take care of each other and extended family. Living in the PNW, there are a lot of native american commuities scattered about. My own NA blood is pretty diluted, but I have actually heard a few stories about the great grandmom that are remnicent of the kinds of things you mentioned, Nedoba.
There is a simplicity and humbleness of heart in all of that that is not common in most societies and yet has some grand moments in every society.
I imagine this is why I was so immediately drawn to the NA teachings of my ancestors....ESPECIALLY when coming straight of the WT hamster-wheel existence and their many, many suffocating organizational rules and requirements. Back in the 40's and 50's, the youngsters in our family were always told that we had "Indian blood" but no one ever told us what tribe we descended from.

In 1998, when we got a computer....I began searching my family tree and discovered names, dates, places and a lot of info on my heritage. It was all so fascinating! Oddly (or may be :o) enough, it was also during these same months of "discoveries" that the deliberate deception of the WTS had become apparent.....so these life-changing things all came tumbling at me at the same time.

The more I delved into my heritage, the more it appealed to me.....and increases every day. My faith is far more solid, deep and dependable and this journey never ceases to be both exciting and faith-strengthening. When I began to meet other Abenaki at a Pow-Wow held an hour away from here....I grew to be even more endeared with the lovely and gentle people I was a member of. These warm, gracious and very giving people come from NH and VT so we don't "visit back and forth" and only see them in this Spring get-together, along with a mixture of other tribes.

I can readily understand why former JWs can become interested in and subsequently choose to embrace other faiths whose qualities far outshine what we have been used to in the WTS. Doubting our faith (as former JWs have experienced) is a frightening ordeal. Our spirituality is where our hearts reside and it needs to be strong and solid.
El Cacique

Bronx, NY

#35 Jul 18, 2014
Nedoba wrote:
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I imagine this is why I was so immediately drawn to the NA teachings of my ancestors....ESPECIALLY when coming straight of the WT hamster-wheel existence and their many, many suffocating organizational rules and requirements. Back in the 40's and 50's, the youngsters in our family were always told that we had "Indian blood" but no one ever told us what tribe we descended from.
In 1998, when we got a computer....I began searching my family tree and discovered names, dates, places and a lot of info on my heritage. It was all so fascinating! Oddly (or may be :o) enough, it was also during these same months of "discoveries" that the deliberate deception of the WTS had become apparent.....so these life-changing things all came tumbling at me at the same time.
The more I delved into my heritage, the more it appealed to me.....and increases every day. My faith is far more solid, deep and dependable and this journey never ceases to be both exciting and faith-strengthening. When I began to meet other Abenaki at a Pow-Wow held an hour away from here....I grew to be even more endeared with the lovely and gentle people I was a member of. These warm, gracious and very giving people come from NH and VT so we don't "visit back and forth" and only see them in this Spring get-together, along with a mixture of other tribes.
I can readily understand why former JWs can become interested in and subsequently choose to embrace other faiths whose qualities far outshine what we have been used to in the WTS. Doubting our faith (as former JWs have experienced) is a frightening ordeal. Our spirituality is where our hearts reside and it needs to be strong and solid.
You're not an NA, Nedoba.

You're an Anglo.

I have more NA blood in me alongside my Spanish and Semitic blood than you do, honey!

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#36 Jul 18, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Christ has a congregation and that congregation is not spread throughout the throngs of professed Christianity. Rather it's right amongst the Jehovah's Witnesses and if you leave that congregation you leave Jesus. Can't have Jesus without his brothers.
I thought Jesus was an only child. At least he got all the attention.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#37 Jul 18, 2014
Sorry to intrude, but is anyone here from Planet Earth?

Since: Sep 13

Houston, TX

#38 Jul 18, 2014
El Cacique wrote:
Oh, yes!........Ja Rule seems so enlightened.
ROTFL!
He has some hot girls in his video...But, they're portraying themselves as tramps.
His lyrics are so spiritually progressive. Aren't they?...LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =P2yJJGA5FysXX
Show me a better life and hope and then you're welcome to come and talk to me about how JW's are so horrible.
Until then.....Get lost!
I think he acknowledges that he has a long way to go. He just became a Christian in the last couple of months. He has about 30 years of history before that to overcome, plus a learning curve. Have mercy on the man!:) Venus and Serena spent their whole lives associating with JWs and have live in boyfriends, nude photos and obscene tirades under their belts, so we probably don't wanna play that game.

I will say though that Prince seems to have calmed down a lot! He still has some moments though:) Last video I saw had a lot of writhing, suggestive lyrics and a woman wearing just a bra with skintight leather corset pants (?) Think he wears mascara to the KH? Hmm. For Prince though, that is comparitively tame. But for a JW-well,not.
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#41 Jul 25, 2014
UNchained wrote:
After serving time, rapper Ja Rule is now on a more spiritual path.
The artist, who had a thriving career in the early 2000s as part of the label Murder, Inc., told New York radio station Power 105.1 that he's gone from following a troubled path to seeking Christianity.
"I kind of reconnected with God by doing the ... movie," Ja Rule told the radio station. "I reconnected with God in a different way. I was going to all these different churches,...(and they) were great, but I didn't feel like they were talking to me until I went to Hillsong right here in the city."
As he recounts in his new memoir, "Unruly: The Highs and Lows of Becoming a Man," Ja Rule was raised by Jehovah's Witnesses. When his mother left the faith in his pre-teen years, the rapper says he soured on the religion.
"The family wasn't speaking to my mother, and I saw how much it hurt her," he recalled to Power 105.1. "I didn't want to have anything to do with the religion at all."
Would be interesting to see if the Pew Forum ever studies how many children raised Jehovah's Witness end up in our penal system.
I will bet money the ratio is very high.
Abused and neglected children tend to be depressed and turn to crime, not surprising.
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#42 Jul 25, 2014
Covered wrote:
<quoted text>I think he acknowledges that he has a long way to go. He just became a Christian in the last couple of months. He has about 30 years of history before that to overcome, plus a learning curve. Have mercy on the man!:) Venus and Serena spent their whole lives associating with JWs and have live in boyfriends, nude photos and obscene tirades under their belts, so we probably don't wanna play that game.
I will say though that Prince seems to have calmed down a lot! He still has some moments though:) Last video I saw had a lot of writhing, suggestive lyrics and a woman wearing just a bra with skintight leather corset pants (?) Think he wears mascara to the KH? Hmm. For Prince though, that is comparitively tame. But for a JW-well,not.
All cults have different rules for celebrities.
The Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientology don't even try and hide it.
UNchained

Loudon, TN

#43 Jul 25, 2014
hMMMMM wrote:
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All cults have different rules for celebrities.
The Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientology don't even try and hide it.
One of the Watchtower's prime tennis celebrities, Venus Williams is featured in a sports magazine's "Annual Body Issue."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-268...

And it's a bet she will still consider herself a Jehovah's Witness because she hasn't been baptised into the organisation.

I doubt she will be announced as "no longer being a publisher of the good news" in her south Florida congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

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