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Ja Rule's 'Unruly' path from jail to Christianity

There are 40 comments on the CNN story from Jul 16, 2014, titled Ja Rule's 'Unruly' path from jail to Christianity. In it, CNN reports that:

Some were surprised to learn that rapper Ja Rule, once best known for being the brash star of Murder Inc. Records, was raised by Jehovah's Witnesses, as he revealed in his memoir "Unruly: The Highs and Lows of Becoming a Man."

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UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#1 Jul 17, 2014
After serving time, rapper Ja Rule is now on a more spiritual path.

The artist, who had a thriving career in the early 2000s as part of the label Murder, Inc., told New York radio station Power 105.1 that he's gone from following a troubled path to seeking Christianity.

"I kind of reconnected with God by doing the ... movie," Ja Rule told the radio station. "I reconnected with God in a different way. I was going to all these different churches,...(and they) were great, but I didn't feel like they were talking to me until I went to Hillsong right here in the city."

As he recounts in his new memoir, "Unruly: The Highs and Lows of Becoming a Man," Ja Rule was raised by Jehovah's Witnesses. When his mother left the faith in his pre-teen years, the rapper says he soured on the religion.

"The family wasn't speaking to my mother, and I saw how much it hurt her," he recalled to Power 105.1. "I didn't want to have anything to do with the religion at all."

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#2 Jul 17, 2014
UNchained wrote:
After serving time, rapper Ja Rule is now on a more spiritual path.
The artist, who had a thriving career in the early 2000s as part of the label Murder, Inc., told New York radio station Power 105.1 that he's gone from following a troubled path to seeking Christianity.
"I kind of reconnected with God by doing the ... movie," Ja Rule told the radio station. "I reconnected with God in a different way. I was going to all these different churches,...(and they) were great, but I didn't feel like they were talking to me until I went to Hillsong right here in the city."
As he recounts in his new memoir, "Unruly: The Highs and Lows of Becoming a Man," Ja Rule was raised by Jehovah's Witnesses. When his mother left the faith in his pre-teen years, the rapper says he soured on the religion.
"The family wasn't speaking to my mother, and I saw how much it hurt her," he recalled to Power 105.1. "I didn't want to have anything to do with the religion at all."
(Hebrews 12:11). .  ., no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful; yet afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
billy

Katy, TX

#3 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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(Hebrews 12:11).&#8239;.&#8239; ., no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful; yet afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Freedom From Human Rules

Colossians 2:
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules:
21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?
22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings.
23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

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#4 Jul 17, 2014
billy wrote:
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Freedom From Human Rules
Colossians 2:
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules:
21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?
22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings.
23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
Judgement from thos inside the Christian congregation

(1 Corinthians 5:12, 13).&#8239;.&#8239;.Fo r what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, 13&#8239;while God judges those outside?“Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.”
ChristOnly

Citrus Heights, CA

#5 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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(Hebrews 12:11).&#8239;.&#8239; ., no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful; yet afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Only a cult mentality would believe a person leaving their man made religion deserves discipline and only a cult mentality would believe shunning a person for leaving their man made religion "yields peaceable fruits of righteousness".
ChristOnly

Citrus Heights, CA

#6 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Judgement from thos inside the Christian congregation
(1 Corinthians 5:12, 13).&#8239;.&#8239;.Fo r what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, 13&#8239;while God judges those outside?“Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.”
Only a cult mentality would believe someone is "wicked" for leaving their man made religion

Christianity documented and started by Jesus Christ and the Disciples

Jehovah Witnesses documented and started by Charles Russell and Joseph F. Rutherford

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#7 Jul 17, 2014
ChristOnly wrote:
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Only a cult mentality would believe someone is "wicked" for leaving their man made religion
Christianity documented and started by Jesus Christ and the Disciples
Jehovah Witnesses documented and started by Charles Russell and Joseph F. Rutherford
Christ has a congregation and that congregation is not spread throughout the throngs of professed Christianity. Rather it's right amongst the Jehovah's Witnesses and if you leave that congregation you leave Jesus. Can't have Jesus without his brothers.

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#8 Jul 17, 2014
ChristOnly wrote:
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Only a cult mentality would believe a person leaving their man made religion deserves discipline and only a cult mentality would believe shunning a person for leaving their man made religion "yields peaceable fruits of righteousness".
Man-made religion, tell me, you're not associated with any religion right!? You worship Jesus alone right!?

“God Saves, Watchtower Lies”

Since: Nov 12

Ashland, OH

#9 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Christ has a congregation and that congregation is not spread throughout the throngs of professed Christianity. Rather it's right amongst the Jehovah's Witnesses and if you leave that congregation you leave Jesus. Can't have Jesus without his brothers.
Not possible. The apostle Paul told us in Galatians chapter 1 that the Watchtower and your religion are cursed.

Also, once a year your religion holds a public spectacle and invite people to come and watch them reject Christ, so your religion can only be characterized as antichrist in nature.

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#10 Jul 17, 2014
Sparlock wrote:
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Not possible. The apostle Paul told us in Galatians chapter 1 that the Watchtower and your religion are cursed.
Also, once a year your religion holds a public spectacle and invite people to come and watch them reject Christ, so your religion can only be characterized as antichrist in nature.
lol you don't even know what the good news is or what Paul was talking about.

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#11 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Christ has a congregation and that congregation is not spread throughout the throngs of professed Christianity. Rather it's right amongst the Jehovah's Witnesses and if you leave that congregation you leave Jesus. Can't have Jesus without his brothers.
If you leave JWs you leave Jesus? Just wow dude!

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#12 Jul 17, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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If you leave JWs you leave Jesus? Just wow dude!
BINGO! You don't have to believe it, it's quite alright no skin off my back..

Christians - "If you leave Jesus you won't be saved"

Jehovah's Witnesses - "We are the only true Christians, you can't have Jesus without congregating with his true people."

If you can prove from the bible I can intentionally worship Jesus alone, not cause of circumstances, but literally never have to worship with others in any way form or fashion, I will denounce being one of Jehovah's Witnesses today!

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#13 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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BINGO! You don't have to believe it, it's quite alright no skin off my back..
Christians - "If you leave Jesus you won't be saved"
Jehovah's Witnesses - "We are the only true Christians, you can't have Jesus without congregating with his true people."
If you can prove from the bible I can intentionally worship Jesus alone, not cause of circumstances, but literally never have to worship with others in any way form or fashion, I will denounce being one of Jehovah's Witnesses today!
What congregation did the Ethiopian eunuch belong to?

Oh thats right, none! Yet he was baptized after demonstrating his faith.

Matt 18:20 shows it could be as little as 2 people gathered in Jesus name and he would be with them!

Imagine that!

But you're just posturing. You're not leaving the GB!

“Tight lines”

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#14 Jul 17, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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What congregation did the Ethiopian eunuch belong to?
Oh thats right, none! Yet he was baptized after demonstrating his faith.
Matt 18:20 shows it could be as little as 2 people gathered in Jesus name and he would be with them!
Imagine that!
But you're just posturing. You're not leaving the GB!
The Ethiopian eunuch did not understand what he was reading which actually helps the "not alone" argument.
And Jesus did in fact say two or more gathered.
I am pretty sure that "two" is more then "one" (alone)
jace

Warsaw, VA

#16 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Christ has a congregation and that congregation is not spread throughout the throngs of professed Christianity. Rather it's right amongst the Jehovah's Witnesses and if you leave that congregation you leave Jesus. Can't have Jesus without his brothers.
I just love when we can get Jw on record saying disagreeing with the published works of the wt writers mean one is leaving god

I love telling nonjw to ask a Jw is this what he means by leaving god

Lol
jace

Warsaw, VA

#17 Jul 17, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
<quoted text>If you leave JWs you leave Jesus? Just wow dude!
It's a mazing is it not

He Can't connect the dots

Reject the wt writing dept published pamphlet means you reject god

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#18 Jul 17, 2014
florida native wrote:
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The Ethiopian eunuch did not understand what he was reading which actually killhelps the "not alone" argument.
And Jesus did in fact say two or more gathered.
I am pretty sure that "two" is more then "one" (alone)
Jesus wasn't establishing a minimum. The point is that whether you're in a large group or not, Jesus is there if you are worshipping in his name.

The Ethiopian was from Meroe. There was no congregation there. But he had a brief encounter with Phillip and demonstrated his faith by getting baptized.

He went back to his nation and worshipped alone.

During Jesus ministry John said he saw someone driving demons out in Jesus name. John tried to stop it but Jesus said not to because it was done under the merits of his name.

All through the Bible we have examples of individuals operating with Gods approval.

Being a part of a religion is not a prerequisite for salvation.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#19 Jul 17, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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Judgement from thos inside the Christian congregation
(1 Corinthians 5:12, 13).&#8239;.&#8239;.Fo r what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, 13&#8239;while God judges those outside?“Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.”
His mother REMOVED herself from the WICKEDNESS when she LEFT the Jehovah's Witnesses...

When his mother left the faith in his pre-teen years, the rapper says he soured on the religion.

"The family wasn't speaking to my mother, and I saw how much it hurt her..."

That's right Duh-boy, the woman was INSIDE the religion and she LEFT the religion because she SAW wickedness dwelling there.

Her son saw it too.

The reason he is a Christian now is because he saw what sin is and what it does to people.

That is why he wanted nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses.

The same thing happened to many of us.

We saw and heard the evil we were being taught so we left.

You may not see the wickedness in the Jehovah's Witness religion but you will if you go to Jesus and ask Him to forgive your sins and ask Him to lead you through this life.

But, that is up to you if you want to see truth with your own eyes.

“Tight lines”

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#20 Jul 17, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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Jesus wasn't establishing a minimum. The point is that whether you're in a large group or not, Jesus is there if you are worshipping in his name.
The Ethiopian was from Meroe. There was no congregation there. But he had a brief encounter with Phillip and demonstrated his faith by getting baptized.
He went back to his nation and worshipped alone.
During Jesus ministry John said he saw someone driving demons out in Jesus name. John tried to stop it but Jesus said not to because it was done under the merits of his name.
All through the Bible we have examples of individuals operating with Gods approval.
Being a part of a religion is not a prerequisite for salvation.
The Ethiopian already had a thirst for knowledge.
He was reading Isaiah when he came across Phillip. We have no idea if there were other Christians in that kingdom nor do we know if he met any while in Jerusalem. You are making assumptions by adding to the Bible.
And yes, there are a number of examples of Christians doing acts while unaccompanied by other Christians.
However, Jesus was very clear when he spoke of "Two or more".
You are simply making an assumption that he was trying not to establish a minimum.
How come he did not say something like "worshiping alone" or something similar?
He VERY clearly used "Two".
I don't see how you can get anything other then that.

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#21 Jul 17, 2014
florida native wrote:
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The Ethiopian already had a thirst for knowledge.
He was reading Isaiah when he came across Phillip. We have no idea if there were other Christians in that kingdom nor do we know if he met any while in Jerusalem. You are making assumptions by adding to the Bible.
And yes, there are a number of examples of Christians doing acts while unaccompanied by other Christians.
However, Jesus was very clear when he spoke of "Two or more".
You are simply making an assumption that he was trying not to establish a minimum.
How come he did not say something like "worshiping alone" or something similar?
He VERY clearly used "Two".
I don't see how you can get anything other then that.
I am not adding. I am using history as my guide. Scholars say that this eunuch was the first non-Jewish Christian. Eunuchs were not really welcomed by Jews because they disliked the practice. So we do know that he was the only Christian from that region.

This eunuch was also of higher status so he could have pioneered Christianity in his nation.

The congregating debate basically boils down to the JW belief that they only are the true religion and being a part of it is necessary for salvation.

I disagree. If a congregation brings you closer to God, so be it. But we cannot settle for the belief that an impartial God only recognizes the efforts of those who worship him in a large group.

After the great apostasy were there true Christians?

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