Bankruptcy drama for Jay Black continues

[Sally]

R U Kidding wrote:

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Like that poster is really who he claims he is, wake up honey.

If he's really who he says he is,my reply is to him. If not,I guess he's just the same as everybody else on here. Is your name R U KIDDING or any of the other names you use? Don't blame y'all tho. Talking the garbage y'all talk, I wouldn't give my real name either.

[Drunk Scotsman]

Jim Beam on the rocks with a mix of coffee is a wee bit good in cold weather. A Hot Toddy. The Lubowsky tried to get Jay #2 & Kenny with Sandy and the fellahs but I think Sandy said "The Chicago kid is the singer, we are JATA Lube". Sally you forgot the peanut buttah at the Piggly Wiggly.

[Jay Black is no negro]

IsThatYourWife wrote:

<quoted text>Isn't Sally sitting next to your Wife?

No, of course not. Your wife knows that I'm not a taken man.

[Jay Black is no negro]

Sally wrote:

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If he's really who he says he is,my reply is to him. If not,I guess he's just the same as everybody else on here. Is your name R U KIDDING or any of the other names you use? Don't blame y'all tho. Talking the garbage y'all talk, I wouldn't give my real name either.

You mean, if I ran through a NC trailer park yelling Sally! Sally! you wouldn't come running out?

[ArizonaPress]

who is he wrote:

Who is Toddy B? I cant find a posting by him, can anyone provide a date he posted please.

Toddy is related to Sandy and fronted the 140k needed for Sandy & the Americans.

[Satch]

Vincent wrote:

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big f*n' deal!!...and Pavorotti was better than Blatt.
the point is, Jay Reinecke is great and to prove it, he is getting standing ovations at every show and he is performing all over the country every week to enthusiastic fans.

Could this be Toddy?

[Drunk Scotsman]

Aye, a 140K loan on the guys, I kinda knew Babylon Savings & Loan would never front a once held Jay enterprise.....he wrecked it. Sandy is reclaiming the glory and I'm sure has paid it back with the Chicago Jay. I've never heard of a Toddy.....probably his real name is Murray Schwartz from Boca Raton.

[PBSMEMBER]

who is he wrote:

Who is Toddy B? I cant find a posting by him, can anyone provide a date he posted please.

Toddy has different aliases on this site and will never give anyone a straight answer on why the group was axed by PBS.Maybe you think that your Bill White is the only one that knows this but Henry is the one that spread the news in an event letter that was send out to PBS members.

Toddy or Henry

Please respond

[Schwartz]

I guess Jay #2 said no go if Sandy and the window washer show up fer 1 tune. I wonder if the PBS legal team had 5 pages fer Blatt to sign just to show up. Toddy Schwartz and the great Lubonski probably had interesting talks.

[The Reneri Group]

I'm still wondering why Henry waited until 2AM to make his call to Long Beach to give the group the heave ho from the reunion show.

[Sally]

Jay Black is no negro wrote:

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You mean, if I ran through a NC trailer park yelling Sally! Sally! you wouldn't come running out?

You can run through all the trailer parks you want, and you might finally hit one that has a Sally--but not this Sally. Don't live in a "park" anymore. But you can run through my yard yelling my name and I'd come running out with Ruger. And I'm fair at hitting a bull's eye target--not often center but good enough to maim if it was a person---so you better be real skinny.

[Sally]

who is he wrote:

Who is Toddy B? I cant find a posting by him, can anyone provide a date he posted please.

Post #83. Found it looking for something else. I don't remember if he posted more.

[Sally]

Actually he had more posts right after that one. Still didn't find what I was looking for.

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JAY BLACK wrote:

I happen to have the Court documents. They are dated September 17, 1973. All stock was transferred to me, Jay Black and signed by Ken Rosenberg, Martin Koopersmith and Lewis Yagoda. Also for the record book,August 1990 Judge Owens ruled that Jay Traynor, in Federal Court, may only use the name Jay Traynor, original lead singer of Jay and the Americans, "She Cried".
So Mr. Toddy B. who thinks he knows everything, read the court documents before you start shooting off your mouth about the real truth. Your stepdad Lewis, signed this document in 1973 signing over all of his rights to the name Jay and the Americans.
Also, if that is not true, then tell the public what you went and spent $140,000 for from the bankruptcy judge?

Go Todd

[OlderPost]

JB management wrote:

Dear Mr. Vetre,
Jay Black did not sell his name for financial reasons. Bankruptcy Court allowed the name Jay and the Americans to be sold as an asset of Mr. Black and was bought by Lewis Yaguda, one of the original backup singers for the group. Mr. Yaguda's son, Todd, purchased the rights to use the name Jay and the Americans for $140,000. from the courts. His step father then assembled three of the original singers (who have not performed the music for 30 years). They found a new lead singer from the mid west who has always sung Jay Black hit songs. They are now performing under the Court purchased name of Jay and the Americans. Jay Black continues his regular schedule of performances with his band of 20 years, singing all the hits he made famous. In answer to your questions.
1. Jay Black is NOT performing in Ocean City, NJ.
2. Jay Black is NOT performing in Wilmington, De.
3. Jay Black IS performing in Red Bank.
Always look for performances that state JAY BLACK. Jay and the Americans advertising will not include JAY BLACK but will have the new singer performing JAY BLACK songs.

Go Toddy B.

[ToddWillAnswerQu estions]

If you have any questions about Jay and the Americans just email [e-mail]

[Drunk Scotsman]

"Stock". JATA Corporation. I guess the Toddy is some older Beau like figure from the 60's with lots of money. Sands Point, Jay: condo & leased Chevy.

[Todd]

If anyone wants to hear the truth then yes please email me at [e-mail] For anyone that's interested, I have not blogged on this forum in years. Once I saw where it was going and the ridiculous comments and the venom that was spewing from the people I stopped. Every now and then I like to read the posts to see how ridiculous and off base they are. What Sandy (My Father) and I paid for the name of the group that he started in his basement with Kenny Vance well that is public record. Not the amount Mr Know it all claims. As well the reason why we bought the name was to keep it out of Larry M's hands. He purchases group names and puts groups out on tour with no original members and we thought that would be a travesty. All we wanted to do was put the original Americans back together with a new Jay to keep the name and music alive. So what is wrong with that. Then you have a guy who thinks he knows everything blogging under all these aliases with a roaming IP address and spewing all this false information. The writing & spelling mistakes are all alike in his posts, I know who he is and will be more than happy to point this out to anyone. He is the one that posted my email address previously. Anyone that listens to this jackass is insane. After all he was thrown out of a Jay Black show at Westbury Music Fair for creating a commotion. One last point, Jay And The Americans and myself have nothing but respect for all the Jay's. Jay Traynor, Jay Black & Jay Reincke. They were all given a god given talent of beautiful voices. After all it is all about the music and keeping it alive for future generations to enjoy.

[BILL WHITE-BABYLON]

I received a couple of harassing emails from Todd recently and will be posting them on YouTube.com and other sites to let people know the real story.
This person has no respect for someone that has given over 2 years of helping this group out as the Fan Club President and also helping out selling merchandise at their shows.I spend my own money traveling to these shows and got nothing in return(maybe a couple of CD's,Tee shirts & Hats). This clown considers me a loser for helping them out and being a JATA fan since day one and also thinks that I shouldn't like their original lead singer Jay Traynor(which I've known since I was 5 years old).And by the way Todd,tell your Stepdad that to quit telling people that he fired me when I left being the FC President on my own because of your Stepdads demands and your Mom getting pissed at me whenever I mentioned Traynors name to anyone asking who the ORIGINAL LEAD SINGER was in '62.
You handle the truth carelessly and whenever you want to open the can of worms I am up for the challenge pal!!!!!

[Bob]

Sounds like this Todd is one greedy SOB!
Spell check that jerk.