Who's the King, Michael Jackson, Elvi...

Who's the King, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, the Beatles?

There are 7218 comments on the Associated Content story from Jul 8, 2009, titled Who's the King, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, the Beatles?. In it, Associated Content reports that:

Who's the king of the three leading major players of the past half century? That is a tough one to decide, but one must consider carefully the accomplishments and the styles in order to make a conclusion.

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#7716 Feb 15, 2013
Elvis got into taking pills ~ he had a handle on it for quite a while. It was his pride that did him in. He didn't want to admit he needed help. He always liked to help others and be that guy. He was beaten by drugs -he needed to give up the fight ~thinkn he had it under control. I don't know how he rationalized all the close calls and what it was doing to him??

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

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#7717 Feb 15, 2013
King Elvis wrote:
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Sonny West told me the same thing when I met him about Joe.
None of the guys liked him ever, and no one trusted him.
He wasn't Southern, for a start. They just didn't like the boy from Chicago.
Diamond Joe, my ass.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit.
And Sonny got his ars fired while Joe was still with Elvis the day he died. Yet, you listen to Sonny. lol! Again, I have nothing against Sonny, per se, even though it sounds like I do. I'm just stating the facts. Maybe it was Sonny who had the attitude problem and not JE.

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#7718 Feb 15, 2013
Xcaliber wrote:
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Joe would know a lot more than you.
What are your sources for the 4th time?
Answer: Yourself. lol!
Also, this is not about Elvis and Glayds--This is about your accusation that Elvis immediately became a drug abuser after his mother dies, which you have failed to substantiate.
My sources come from hundreds of books and magazines I've read.

Do you really expect me to remember the exact book I got it from?

You are a complete idiot.

Elvis was filmed passing a joint around in 1958.

It was at Dolores Hart's living room with the camera she gave him.

It was written that Elvis did not take pills in the fifties, dippy.

And I never said that Elvis became a drug abuser after Gladys died.

He just started using pills to bury his pain.

It built up over a period of years.

It is up to you to prove that he took pills BEFORE Gladys death.

You can't find it because its not there.

If Joe Esposito said that Elvis was doing drugs in 1956 or 1957...

He is full of shit.

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#7719 Feb 16, 2013
octo wrote:
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"He took me up there" is what Priscilla told the Memphis Mafia.
Elvis had just found out about Mike Stone.
It was just rough sex.
Priscilla called it rape only when she told Elvis she was leaving.
Yes that's right, Priscilla was subjected to non-consensual sex, aka rape.

There is no excuse for it. The woman was over Elvis and wasn't his possession full stop.

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#7720 Feb 16, 2013
Joe was business guy/foreman,etc. I'm sure he had private discusions with Elvis but also with The Colonel that Sonny and Red etc. didn't have. It seems Elvis had different people for different things~Larry for his spiritual side-Red and Sonny were tough guys but Red was special, songwriter,actor,badass. Anyway I think Elvis dealt with people on a need to know basis and others who didn't need to know didn't. His discussion with Colonel were kept private for most part. I think it was same with his one on one with the other's

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

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#7721 Feb 16, 2013
octo wrote:
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My sources come from hundreds of books and magazines I've read.
Do you really expect me to remember the exact book I got it from?
You are a complete idiot.
Elvis was filmed passing a joint around in 1958.
It was at Dolores Hart's living room with the camera she gave him.
It was written that Elvis did not take pills in the fifties, dippy.
And I never said that Elvis became a drug abuser after Gladys died.
He just started using pills to bury his pain.
It built up over a period of years.
It is up to you to prove that he took pills BEFORE Gladys death.
You can't find it because its not there.
If Joe Esposito said that Elvis was doing drugs in 1956 or 1957...
He is full of shit.
Now you're changing your story. First, you claim Elvis first started taking drugs after his mother passed away and that her death caused him to become addicted. But now you're claiming that "over a period of years" Elvis became a drug abuser. So did Elvis become a drug abuser right after his mother passed away, which would mean he abused drugs in the Army, or did he become addicted to drugs years after his mother's death, which means his mother's death did not cause his drug addiction. Years later could be 1969--perhaps. lol! And then when he and Priscilla divorced his sadness over losing her was the final straw that sent him into depression and life threatening drug abuse--Right?! Would you like to change your story a little more and agree with me?!

For someone who claims Joe Esposito changes his story, you're doing a good job of the same all by your lonesome.

You can't get your story straight.

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#7722 Feb 16, 2013
Xcaliber wrote:
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Again, no sources. You haven't cited one source who has said that Elvis became drug addicted because of his mother's death. Can you name one?! Hello!!
I remember a magazine that came out in 1979 with the 20/20 thing.

It claimed that Elvis started using drugs while in the army.

And Gladys died on August 14th 1958.

Elvis had a week on leave.

Then he had to go back to Germany, dipshit.

You seem to take Joe Esposito's word as bond.

But he is a compulsive liar to tell new stories on Elvis.

Joe Esposito has done the same shit for the past 35 years.

You are the idiot that believes him.

He did not even know Elvis in the mid fifties.

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#7723 Feb 16, 2013
goodvibrations wrote:
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Yes that's right, Priscilla was subjected to non-consensual sex, aka rape.
There is no excuse for it. The woman was over Elvis and wasn't his possession full stop.
Priscilla went to Elvis begging for sex as told in her book.

She came down to the Las Vegas casino afterwards and told the MM.

Rough sex is not rape, hon.

Sorry, you still have nothing.

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

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#7724 Feb 16, 2013
By the way, anyone who looks at Elvis during his NBC Special in 1968 and then sees the slow, but steady progression of changes in his face, including swelling, with 20/20 hindsight, one should also see steady changes to his demeanor indicating his personality was changing and the likely cause was increasing dependence on prescription drugs. When the imminent departure of Priscilla was upon him, he went into deep depression. He tried to battle it but couldn't beat it and consequently became more and more dependent on drugs. So drugs became his way to survive and, from what I understand he had an addictive personality to a degree. Elvis was a good man who always sought to do the right thing even though he was flawed. He was a human being after all, which is what he tried to impress upon the public in at least two press conferences. He also had a natural tendency to look for answers about life in books instead of living one day at a time, which was encouraged to a degree because of who he was and his superstar fame. Why was he chosen, what the purpose in life, what's the after life about?!

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#7725 Feb 16, 2013
Xcaliber wrote:
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Now you're changing your story. First, you claim Elvis first started taking drugs after his mother passed away and that her death caused him to become addicted. But now you're claiming that "over a period of years" Elvis became a drug abuser. So did Elvis become a drug abuser right after his mother passed away, which would mean he abused drugs in the Army, or did he become addicted to drugs years after his mother's death, which means his mother's death did not cause his drug addiction. Years later could be 1969--perhaps. lol! And then when he and Priscilla divorced his sadness over losing her was the final straw that sent him into depression and life threatening drug abuse--Right?! Would you like to change your story a little more and agree with me?!
For someone who claims Joe Esposito changes his story, you're doing a good job of the same all by your lonesome.
You can't get your story straight.
I've never changed my opinion.

You are the one twisting it every which way.

Drug addiction takes a period of years to build into a problem.

Starting a habit after the death of his mom is not unreasonable.

Take in account that he was in Germany and did not want to be.

You're a fool.

The story has always been straight. Common knowledge.

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

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#7726 Feb 16, 2013
octo wrote:
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I remember a magazine that came out in 1979 with the 20/20 thing.
It claimed that Elvis started using drugs while in the army.
And Gladys died on August 14th 1958.
Elvis had a week on leave.
Then he had to go back to Germany, dipshit.
You seem to take Joe Esposito's word as bond.
But he is a compulsive liar to tell new stories on Elvis.
Joe Esposito has done the same shit for the past 35 years.
You are the idiot that believes him.
He did not even know Elvis in the mid fifties.
Elvis started using diet pills prior to the Army, which eventually became illegal so sell over the counter--if I remember the story. As far as prescription drugs, yes, it might very well be that he first began using them in the Army; however, your intent on drawing the conclusion that it was all because of his mother death. I'm sure the truth is halfway in between, which is he was obviously stressed and needed something to calm him while at the same time he also need something to wake him. However, your contention that Gladys's death caused him to become drug addicted is not supported by anything anyone who knew him has said. Elvis was a user, not an abuser until later on. By 1969, when he was booked to do grueling concerts (2 shows a day) in Vegas is when he became more and more dependent on prescription drugs. This pattern of use continued and then it spiraled out of control when he split with Priscilla. His drug use then crossed into the abyss to a point of no return. This is why I believe Sonny when he, Red West, and Dave Hebler, interviewed for Dunleavy's book: Elvis: What Happened? He has stated repeatedly that he wanted to try to get Elvis to realize what he was doing to himself. I believe him. There was bitterness, but he no doubt hoped Elvis would rise to the occasion and prove him wrong. And I'm sure he felt he and Elvis would reconcile eventually. But Elvis was very conscious of his image and that book was looked upon as betrayal, rather than incentive.

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

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#7727 Feb 16, 2013
octo wrote:
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I've never changed my opinion.
You are the one twisting it every which way.
Drug addiction takes a period of years to build into a problem.
Starting a habit after the death of his mom is not unreasonable.
Take in account that he was in Germany and did not want to be.
You're a fool.
The story has always been straight. Common knowledge.
Here is what you said previously:
octo wrote:
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Elvis was reported to duty in March of 1958.
He spent time at Fort Hood in Texas for basic training.
Elvis was in Germany when his mom passed in August of that year.
It was still summer.
By the winter of 1959, Elvis had to stay awake in the cold.
Something he was never used to. He popped pills to stay awake.
But other soldiers were doing the same thing.
Elvis wasn't addicted to drugs before his mother's death.
He may have tried them but that wasn't addiction, was it?
You said, "Elvis wasn't addicted to drugs before his mother's death." You are clearly insinuating that his mother's death caused him to become addicted to drugs, which is not true. Now you're saying that it was years after his mother's passing that Elvis became addicted/abuser. Big deal! Tell me something I already don't know?! What I have said isn't anything different. So again, what is your point exactly about stressing Elvis's mother's death?! That he only began using them after she died. Is that it?! So all this nonsense is about you wanting to stress the point that Elvis didn't begin using prescription drugs until after his mother died, and not that her death caused him to abuse drugs?!
Lee

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#7728 Feb 16, 2013
Xcaliber wrote:
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Here is what you said previously:
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You said, "Elvis wasn't addicted to drugs before his mother's death." You are clearly insinuating that his mother's death caused him to become addicted to drugs, which is not true. Now you're saying that it was years after his mother's passing that Elvis became addicted/abuser. Big deal! Tell me something I already don't know?! What I have said isn't anything different. So again, what is your point exactly about stressing Elvis's mother's death?! That he only began using them after she died. Is that it?! So all this nonsense is about you wanting to stress the point that Elvis didn't begin using prescription drugs until after his mother died, and not that her death caused him to abuse drugs?!
Why does this even matter?
Lee

Burbank, CA

#7729 Feb 16, 2013
octo wrote:
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I've actually met Joe Esposito and thought he was an assh*le.
It doesn't exactly mean that I have a screw loose.
The dude was smug and obnoxious. That was my take on him.
I'm not attacking him saying that I want him dead or anything.
There are a lot of assh*les in the world and Joe Esposito is one.
The dude simply uses his association with Elvis for profit.
He really has nothing new to say because he changes his stories.
Whatever.
I've met a few Elvis's musicians and friends and they were decent.
Joe Esposito wasn't.
I had the misfortune to be in the same room with Dr Nick.
I totally ignored the old bastard and walked out on him.
What did he say or do that made you walk out?
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#7730 Feb 17, 2013
octo wrote:
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Joe Esposito is a compulsive liar and very sneaky.
I'd bet he gave information to Col Parker behind Elvis's back.
I sensed something not right with Joe Esposito.
Like he knows something and is holding it back.
That is why he keeps changing his stories.
Yes, Joe was definitely the source for the Colonel's info about what was going on inside the MM and with Elvis.

He's always played both sides.

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#7731 Feb 18, 2013
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>What did he say or do that made you walk out?
Dr Nick didn't say anything. He just just had the nerve to show up.

Anyway, he was at our hotel in Memphis trying to sell his photo book.

I think all he sold was two copies.

His son, Dean was there with him.

I was there on Elvis week, 2007.

Not many fans were going up to Dr Nick...

So I don't know why he bothered.

Does he still believe that he was a respected member of the MM?

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#7732 Feb 18, 2013
King Elvis wrote:
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Yes, Joe was definitely the source for the Colonel's info about what was going on inside the MM and with Elvis.
He's always played both sides.
Joe Esposito might as well have been a Colonel Parker employee.

One of the reasons why I don't like him.

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#7733 Feb 18, 2013
Xcaliber wrote:
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Here is what you said previously:
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You said, "Elvis wasn't addicted to drugs before his mother's death." You are clearly insinuating that his mother's death caused him to become addicted to drugs, which is not true. Now you're saying that it was years after his mother's passing that Elvis became addicted/abuser. Big deal! Tell me something I already don't know?! What I have said isn't anything different. So again, what is your point exactly about stressing Elvis's mother's death?! That he only began using them after she died. Is that it?! So all this nonsense is about you wanting to stress the point that Elvis didn't begin using prescription drugs until after his mother died, and not that her death caused him to abuse drugs?!
I know that Gladys used prescription drugs and drank alcohol.

I know that she was very unhappy that Elvis was gone a lot.

I think that Elvis felt guilty that he was not there for her.

But he shouldn't have been.

Anyway, it doesn't matter why and how Elvis started abusing.

He was a brilliant singer, entertainer, musician.

I will always be an Elvis fan.
Lee

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#7734 Feb 18, 2013
octo wrote:
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Dr Nick didn't say anything. He just just had the nerve to show up.
Anyway, he was at our hotel in Memphis trying to sell his photo book.
I think all he sold was two copies.
His son, Dean was there with him.
I was there on Elvis week, 2007.
Not many fans were going up to Dr Nick...
So I don't know why he bothered.
Does he still believe that he was a respected member of the MM?
I don't see why he is any more or less guilty than any of them. And "respected member of the MM? There is no such thing.

Last interview I saw with Dr. Nick he seemed like he might have dementia. Very senile. In fact, so much so that I wondered if he was really behind his book, and the humiliating statements he said about Elvis.
Lee

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#7735 Feb 18, 2013
octo wrote:
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I know that Gladys used prescription drugs and drank alcohol.
I know that she was very unhappy that Elvis was gone a lot.
I think that Elvis felt guilty that he was not there for her.
But he shouldn't have been.
Anyway, it doesn't matter why and how Elvis started abusing.
He was a brilliant singer, entertainer, musician.
I will always be an Elvis fan.
You know that Gladys has been ACCUSED of doing drugs and alcohol. You don't know that she actually did.

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