Is the U.S. Ready for a Mormon Presid...

Is the U.S. Ready for a Mormon President?

There are 4552 comments on the www.nydailynews.com story from Jan 12, 2012, titled Is the U.S. Ready for a Mormon President?. In it, www.nydailynews.com reports that:

Politics Staff Story

Many Mormons don't think so. Just 56% believe Americans are ready to elect a Mormon President, according to a new Pew Research Center survey.

The New York Daily News reports that

Some conservative Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christian at all, and there's plenty of often-unvoiced hostility toward Mormonism among some Christian sects.

GOP front-runner Mitt Romney may be a stricter Mormon than many of his co-religionists, The Huffington Post reports.

Romney...drinks neither coffee nor tea. And his wife, according to Mormon tradition, keeps months' worth of food storage for emergencies.

Weigh in: Is America ready for a Mormon president? Do you care about the president's religious beliefs?

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.nydailynews.com.

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#4707 Jun 5, 2012
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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I'd be willing to vote in P. T. Barnum right about now. The Kenyan Snake is not entertaining me.
Frightening the audience was King Obama's first mistake.
FDR/Truman 6x winners!
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#4708 Jun 16, 2012
Rominey could be the first mormon president ever, awesome! That is great for us gays-everyone knows ALL us Mormon men are Gay.

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#4712 Jun 16, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
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FDR/Truman 6x winners!
Who, precisely, is "everyone"?

Everyone in the hole-in-the-wall CA bath houses?

Or just those inside of your hole-in-the-wall?

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#4713 Jun 16, 2012
Janice wrote:
Indoctrinated in the occult by his parents, Joe Smith used implements of ceremonial magic, such as divining rods, peepstones, a Jupiter talisman, amulets, magic parchments and a dagger with the sigil of Mars. The Bible strictly forbids divination (Deut. 18:10, Ezek. 12:24, 13:23, Zech. 10:2, Jer. 27:9, II Kings 17:17), yet four eyewitnesses reported that the Smiths used divining rods in the Palmyra area (D. Michael Quinn, Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, Signature Books, SLC, 1998, p. 33). Besides using a dowsing rod as a water witch, Joe Smith used a peepstone to tell fortunes. In a December 12, 1833 affidavit, neighbor David Stafford affirmed Smith's involvement in fortune telling:
"It is well known, that the general employment of the Smith family was money digging and fortune-telling" (Anderson, p. 141).
In an affidavit, Henry Harris noted Smith's fortune telling: "Joseph Smith, Jr. the pretended Prophet, used to pretend to tell fortunes; he had a stone which he used to put in his hat, by means of which he professed to tell people's fortunes" (Ibid., p. 131).
To learn firsthand about Mormonism, Fayette Lapham traveled to the Smiths' family residence in 1830, and he interviewed Joe Smith Sr. He recalled Joe Smith Sr.'s saying that young "Joseph spent about two years looking into this stone, telling fortunes...." (Vogel, 1:458)
Christopher M. Stafford, who attended school with some of the Smith children and who sometimes had meals at the Smiths' residence, said, "Joe claimed to have revelations and tell fortunes. He told mine by looking in the palm of my hand and said among other things that I would not live to be very old." Christopher Stafford was seventy-six when he recalled Smith's words.(Anderson, p. 166).
To consult his whitish peepstone about a stolen mare, Joe Smith charged E. W. Vanderhoof's grandfather 75 cents (E. W. Vanderhoof, Historical Sketches of Western New York, Buffalo: Matthews-Northrup Works, 1907, pp. 138-39).
Justice Joel Noble corroborated Smith's occult and illegal activities,
"Jo. Smith (Mormon) came here when about 17-18 y. of age in the capacity of Glass Looker or fortuneteller.... Jo. engaged the attention of a few indiv[iduals] Given to the marvelous. Duge for money, Salt, Iron Oar, Golden Oar, Silver Oar, and almost any thing, every thing, until Civil authority brought up Jo. standing (as the boys say) under the Vagrant act. Jo. was condemned. Whisper came to Jo. "off, off"—took Leg Bail.... Jo. was not seen in our town for 2 Years or more (except in Dark Corners)." (Letter from Joel K. Noble, presiding judge in one of Smith's 1830 trials; quoted in David Persuitte, Joseph Smith and the Origins of the Book of Mormon, Jefferson, NC: McFarland, 1985, p. 54).
Some Mormons understand that Joe Smith used his peepstone to swindle only Josiah Stowell. Smith actually defrauded various people besides Stowell, including Oliver Harper, Jacob Chamberlain and Mr. Fish. These people lost not only their money in fruitless treasure digging excursions, but as Smith lured them into the Biblically forbidden world of divination and ritual magic, they lost moral character as well.
According to a January 1832 letter from five members of the judiciary of the postmaster at Canandaigua, NY, Mr. Fish financed Joe Smith's treasure digging at Manchester (N[athaniel]. W. Howell, W[alter]. Hubbell, A[nsel]. Eddy, Henry Chapin, Jared Willson, and Lewis Jenkins to Rev. Ancil Beach, January 1832, copy in Hubbell's handwriting, fd. 1, box 6, Walter Hubbell Collection, Princeton University Library, Princeton, NJ).
To make comments and or with an occasional paste is one thing.
But you do realize that your monopolizing this thread and other threads with your continuous "re-pasted" statements and quotes is listed in the Topix guidelines as abuse of posting privileges. Do you know that? Just saying :)

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#4714 Jul 29, 2012
Romney the King of Mormons!

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#4715 Jul 29, 2012
The rich get richer always! bail them out

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#4716 Jul 29, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
Romney the King of Mormons!
Barack Husssein Obama is the King of Black Liberation Theology.

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#4717 Jul 29, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
The rich get richer always! bail them out
Read and learn....
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/incometaxandthe...

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#4718 Jul 29, 2012
I took a quick look at the "Boston Consulting Group". Lo and behold, one of Mitt Romney's fellow corporate advisers in 1976 was none other than Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu. They had brainstorming sessions together. What a small little world we live in.

"The relationship between Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Romney — nurtured over meals in Boston, New York and Jerusalem, strengthened by a network of mutual friends and heightened by their conservative ideologies — has resulted in an unusually frank exchange of advice and insights on topics like politics, economics and the Middle East."

"We can almost speak in shorthand," Mr. Romney said in an interview. "We share common experiences and have a perspective and underpinning which is similar."

OMG. Can there be any doubt that Romney will give in to Nutandyahoo's demand that the U.S. take military action against Iran?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/us/politics ...

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#4719 Jul 29, 2012
"Mitt and Ann Romney's charitable foundation gave $4,325,000 to the Mormon Church in three hefty installments in 2003, 2008 and 2009," ... "That was 74 percent of their foundation's donations from 2002 to 2009, during which time the couple gave a total of $5,854,916 to charity."

Morman Inc. turned around and gave that money to the Romney for President Campaign, the Republican Party and reinvested the "charitable donations" in Romney's Equity Fund.

Such shenanigans may be legal but certainly not morally acceptable when vetting a presidential candidate. More than likely one of the varied reasons McCain turned Romney down as his VP running mate.

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#4720 Jul 29, 2012
OMG. Willard Romney is calling Jerusalem “the capital of Israel.” Could he be any more clueless as to the ramifications of such a statement? There is a very good reason the United States (Clinton, Bush, Obama) have withheld implementation of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 and recognize it as a national security risk.

Moving our Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem would be an invitation to war that would have a devastating effect on the United States. I can't think of a better adjective than "Idiot" when describing Romney on international matters.

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#4721 Jul 29, 2012
USAsince1680 wrote:
I took a quick look at the "Boston Consulting Group". Lo and behold, one of Mitt Romney's fellow corporate advisers in 1976 was none other than Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu. They had brainstorming sessions together. What a small little world we live in.
"The relationship between Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Romney — nurtured over meals in Boston, New York and Jerusalem, strengthened by a network of mutual friends and heightened by their conservative ideologies — has resulted in an unusually frank exchange of advice and insights on topics like politics, economics and the Middle East."
"We can almost speak in shorthand," Mr. Romney said in an interview. "We share common experiences and have a perspective and underpinning which is similar."
OMG. Can there be any doubt that Romney will give in to Nutandyahoo's demand that the U.S. take military action against Iran?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/us/politics ...
The NY Times is poison Kool-Aid. Stop drinking it 3 months before a Presidential Election.

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#4722 Jul 29, 2012
USAsince1680 wrote:
"Mitt and Ann Romney's charitable foundation gave $4,325,000 to the Mormon Church in three hefty installments in 2003, 2008 and 2009," ... "That was 74 percent of their foundation's donations from 2002 to 2009, during which time the couple gave a total of $5,854,916 to charity."
Morman Inc. turned around and gave that money to the Romney for President Campaign, the Republican Party and reinvested the "charitable donations" in Romney's Equity Fund.
Such shenanigans may be legal but certainly not morally acceptable when vetting a presidential candidate. More than likely one of the varied reasons McCain turned Romney down as his VP running mate.
Stop the BS. Go read about Moochelle's getting "bonuses" while on the board of Chicago Hospitals. Or King Obama's connections to Chicago organized crime. Reverend Wright. Marxist "Poets" who slept with his mother. The Kenyan Snake and his little wife are typical of Chicago Political Machinery.

And you want to smear Romney? Go fish.

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#4723 Jul 29, 2012
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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The NY Times is poison Kool-Aid. Stop drinking it 3 months before a Presidential Election.
You are free to look up the information on any media outlet your desire. You can't sweep the truth under the rug just because it doesn't suit your needs.

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#4724 Jul 29, 2012
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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Stop the BS. Go read about Moochelle's getting "bonuses" while on the board of Chicago Hospitals. Or King Obama's connections to Chicago organized crime. Reverend Wright. Marxist "Poets" who slept with his mother. The Kenyan Snake and his little wife are typical of Chicago Political Machinery.
And you want to smear Romney? Go fish.
Oh, so it is OK to smear the Obamas and not Romney? Sorry. You lose.

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#4725 Jul 29, 2012
USAsince1680 wrote:
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You are free to look up the information on any media outlet your desire. You can't sweep the truth under the rug just because it doesn't suit your needs.
Yeah. I'm just as free as you are to spread the propaganda you've found. However, I'm more mature than that. Have fun, little kid.

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#4726 Jul 29, 2012
USAsince1680 wrote:
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Oh, so it is OK to smear the Obamas and not Romney? Sorry. You lose.
Correction: it's everyone's civic duty to report the Kenyan Snake's lies, Marxist connections and Socialist ploys but wrong to try smearing Romney as the election approaches. Show a little maturity, woodja?!!

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#4727 Jul 29, 2012
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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Yeah. I'm just as free as you are to spread the propaganda you've found. However, I'm more mature than that. Have fun, little kid.
LOL. Problem is....you can't discern between propaganda and facts.

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#4728 Jul 29, 2012
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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Correction: it's everyone's civic duty to report the Kenyan Snake's lies, Marxist connections and Socialist ploys but wrong to try smearing Romney as the election approaches. Show a little maturity, woodja?!!
Romney's shell game:
"The SEC filings indicate that donations to the Mormon church in stock from Bain deals reached well into the millions of dollars."
"They include a gift of nearly $2 million in Burger King stock in February 2007 generated by a Bain deal."
"In another donation, the Mormon church received what SEC filings and stock pricing records indicate was $1.3 million of stock in a company called Innophos Holdings in June 2008."
"The church received an estimated $1 million in Domino's Pizza stock in 2004, in yet another donation."
"Tax analysts said the donation method used by Romney and Bain generally worked like this:
Romney was eligible to invest in the stock of companies that were being restructured by Bain. Romney and other Bain investors usually were able to purchase the stock at very low prices.
Through the years, such stock may appreciate in value, sometimes considerably.
The analysts said that if Romney and others at Bain got a stock cheap and eventually donated it to a church or charity without cashing in the stock, then they could get two tax benefits.
First, they would not have to pay capital gains tax on the appreciated value of the stock, which they would have to do if they sold the stock and either pocketed or donated the proceeds.
Second, they might be able to deduct all, or at least part of, the value of the donated stock from their taxable income.
Such a move can save wealthy donors millions of dollars, the analysts said.
"Ordinarily when you dispose of something that has appreciated in value you have a taxable gain on which you pay tax," said Robert Willens, a Wall Street tax specialist. "This is one of the most prominent situations where you can dispose of appreciated property and avoid paying tax on the gain."
Just because crookedness has become acceptable behavior in the world of finance, it doesn't make it right.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/19/us -...

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#4729 Jul 29, 2012
USAsince1680 wrote:
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LOL. Problem is....you can't discern between propaganda and facts.
This is a blog so why are you talking to yourself? Silly.

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