White House Uses 'Polar Vortex' to Pr...

White House Uses 'Polar Vortex' to Promote Global Warming Hysteria

There are 9 comments on the Gateway Pundit story from Jan 9, 2014, titled White House Uses 'Polar Vortex' to Promote Global Warming Hysteria. In it, Gateway Pundit reports that:

The Obama administration released a YouTube video on Wednesday by Obama Science Advisor Dr. John Holdren blaming 'global warming' for the recent polar vortex driven outbreak of sub-zero weather in North America.

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Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#1 Jan 9, 2014
Science has been saying that the melting of the Arctic ice would cause this sort of effect for years.

It's not as if Holdren is trying to explain the cold after the fact.

Here's the science he referenced talked about a year ago:

Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#2 Jan 9, 2014
The President has an imbecile for science adviser. Energy flow is driven by differences in energy, which is why (in absolute contradiction of the moronic) we've seen far fewer extreme weather events worldwide.

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/0...
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#3 Jan 9, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The President has an imbecile for science adviser. Energy flow is driven by differences in energy, which is why (in absolute contradiction of the moronic) we've seen far fewer extreme weather events worldwide.
Faulty logic. It is true that, when temperatures finally stabilize (after we stop polluting the skies) there will be a relative 'calm' but while we are changing the thermodynamics faster than they can 'adapt' there will be major chaos and as the regimes adapt there will be massive change.

Note. Try to learn where the SCIENCE references are.

http://climatecrocks.com/2011/09/14/new-lows-...

The blog site for 'stephen goddard' is about an anonymous crank who has no credible science background and publishes total bushwah.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#4 Jan 9, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Faulty logic. It is true that, when temperatures finally stabilize (after we stop polluting the skies) there will be a relative 'calm' but while we are changing the thermodynamics faster than they can 'adapt' there will be major chaos and as the regimes adapt there will be massive change.
Note. Try to learn where the SCIENCE references are.
http://climatecrocks.com/2011/09/14/new-lows-...
The blog site for 'stephen goddard' is about an anonymous crank who has no credible science background and publishes total bushwah.
Everyone's credibility would fail if they were judged by a single error. You guys were claiming the Arctic would be ice free by now, yet the ice has grown at both poles at unprecedented rates. The accumulation of error is on your side. No global warming for seventeen years; global cooling since 2000. Fewer extreme weather events actually setting new records of low frequency. The list goes on and on. Yet, you(pl) continue to claim each weather occurrence mimicking what the world has exactly experienced for thousands of years (without industry) is proof of AGW.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#5 Jan 9, 2014
Additionally, it is the AGW people, who've been caught falsifying data, leaving data out of their models, conspiring amongst themselves in emails to slant the debate and maintain their falsehoods. Here, we see the angry deniers of observable reality using the Communist Alinsky method of degrading their opponents.

Nonetheless, anyone saying cold weather has anything to do with climate change is an imbecile.

http://www.thegwpf.org/cold-wave-imply-global...
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#6 Jan 9, 2014
Richard Lindzen, Ph.D. Lecture Deconstructs Global Warming

"Not only did this Gang of Climate Hysteria Criminals corrupt the science behind global warming (e.g destroying data, excluding dissent from the peer-review process, ignoring FOIA requests, etc.), their science never had any backing."
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#7 Jan 9, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Everyone's credibility would fail if they were judged by a single error.
Not a problem You and most (all?) of your references are wrong MOST of the time.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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You guys were claiming the Arctic would be ice free by now,
Mistake #1. The forecast was that it COULD be ice free in summer by 2013. And it could have been.We are still on track to be ice free in the near future but only for a brief period (to lengthen as AGW continues).
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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yet the ice has grown at both poles at unprecedented rates.
Mistake #2. Confusing year to year variability (noise) with the underlying signal. The Arctic is in steady decline while the Antarctic has increased ONLY the 'winter peak' ice. And this can be traced back to climate change from AGW.

I'll let you away with 'unprecedented'. It is obviously mindless hyperbole and not intended to be taken seriously.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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No global warming for seventeen years; global cooling since 2000.
Mistake #3. The GLOBAL SURFACE TEMPERATURE AVERAGE has increased steadily. What you are confused about is the AIR temperature trend and then ONLY for the CRU analysis which has a KNOWN FLAW of lacking enough data in the polar regions. When they add those records, the 'flattening' goes away.

Nuff said. I won't both with the rest of your mistakes. Just accept that they are being counted.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#8 Jan 9, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Not a problem You and most (all?) of your references are wrong MOST of the time.
<quoted text>
Mistake #1. The forecast was that it COULD be ice free in summer by 2013. And it could have been.We are still on track to be ice free in the near future but only for a brief period (to lengthen as AGW continues).
<quoted text>
Mistake #2. Confusing year to year variability (noise) with the underlying signal. The Arctic is in steady decline while the Antarctic has increased ONLY the 'winter peak' ice. And this can be traced back to climate change from AGW.
I'll let you away with 'unprecedented'. It is obviously mindless hyperbole and not intended to be taken seriously.
<quoted text>
Mistake #3. The GLOBAL SURFACE TEMPERATURE AVERAGE has increased steadily. What you are confused about is the AIR temperature trend and then ONLY for the CRU analysis which has a KNOWN FLAW of lacking enough data in the polar regions. When they add those records, the 'flattening' goes away.
Nuff said. I won't both with the rest of your mistakes. Just accept that they are being counted.
You're such a liar... worse than Mann.

Suddenly, you forget listening to the real hyperbole of Al Gore and many others concerning the ice free Arctic. Then, your magical "underlying signal" is based on models, not observed reality.(Thus, you are basing your concepts and beliefs on rerunning flawed models.) Third, your "surface temperature average" is based in ill placed temperature sensors, or should we say intentionally placed temperature sensors.

There's no real talk with you guys; you believe Winter is caused by AGW.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#9 Jan 9, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>To another poster:

You're such a liar... worse than Mann.
Suddenly, you forget listening to the real hyperbole of Al Gore and many others concerning the ice free Arctic. Then, your magical "underlying signal" is based on models, not observed reality.(Thus, you are basing your concepts and beliefs on rerunning flawed models.) Third, your "surface temperature average" is based in ill placed temperature sensors, or should we say intentionally placed temperature sensors.
There's no real talk with you guys; you believe Winter is caused by AGW.
To speak ill of Mann or any poster here suits you when you can't handle the 'heat.'

If you are a skeptic, then read "how to convert a skeptic" by Richard Muller:

http://static.berkeleyearth.org/pdf/how-to-co...

What the poster from Canada is telling you is correct. Just find your own learning.

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