Nas? Tupac? Biggie? Eazy E? Who's No1

Nas? Tupac? Biggie? Eazy E? Who's No1

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BIG will

Ballyclare, UK

#1 Nov 12, 2007
Start debating
RLL

Anchorage, AK

#2 Nov 12, 2007
2pac
BIG will

London, UK

#3 Nov 12, 2007
RLL wrote:
2pac
Totally agreee player tupac for sure
Westside4Life

Sweden

#4 Nov 13, 2007
In this one:
1. Pac
2. Nas
3. Eazy
4. BIG
RLL

Anchorage, AK

#5 Nov 13, 2007
2pac is definitely overall the best of anyone. Basically any song he appeared on was good. One great song that not much people have heard is a song by E-40 called Dusted 'n' Disgusted. I don't really listen to E-40 but 2pac and Spice 1 are in that song and I can guarantee that if ur a 2pac fan u gotta hear that song. U will love it. And not only the stuff he appeared on but his solo work was amazing. He's made over 100 songs that are great. All the albums he made while he was alive are classics. The messages he sent in his music was great and to me he said more than any other rapper did.
News Guy

Liverpool, UK

#6 Nov 14, 2007
RLL wrote:
2pac is definitely overall the best of anyone. Basically any song he appeared on was good. One great song that not much people have heard is a song by E-40 called Dusted 'n' Disgusted. I don't really listen to E-40 but 2pac and Spice 1 are in that song and I can guarantee that if ur a 2pac fan u gotta hear that song. U will love it. And not only the stuff he appeared on but his solo work was amazing. He's made over 100 songs that are great. All the albums he made while he was alive are classics. The messages he sent in his music was great and to me he said more than any other rapper did.
100 percent true
SCARPY

United States

#7 Dec 5, 2007
Eazy-E STARTED THA GANGSTER SHIT EVERYONE ELSE GOT INSPIRE FROM HIM AND DECIDE TO BECOME RAPPERS SO EAZY-E
BrixtonBoi

Chelmsford, UK

#8 Dec 12, 2007
biggie iz da real OG.. he got da beats n da hardcore lyrikz, he a rich gangster whereas tupac was a skinny poor thug
Kaos

UK

#9 Dec 14, 2007
HOW CAN YOU EVEN PUT EAZY E'S NAME WITH THOSE 3?
Eazy didn't even write his own lyrics, ice cube wrote for him
out of the real 3 candidates, Nas is the best by far, yes i said it... just because someone is dead doesnt make them better
Nas is alot better than 2pac and biggie, Nas is on par with GZA for the best rapper of all time in my opinion

Since: Dec 07

San Diego

#10 Dec 18, 2007
eazy my favorite but i know the best is pac
you are all wrong

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Dec 18, 2007
But thats cool...

Nas, although he didn't have staying power, but his illmatic shit kills everything. and you know it
RLL

Anchorage, AK

#12 Dec 18, 2007
I would put All Eyez on Me, Until the end of Time, Me Against the World, and Ready to Die in front of Illmatic. I think DMX and Eminem could be put in this argument as one of the best rappers ever. And if it counts as a group back in the day Bone Thugs were great. I would put Creepin' on ah Come up, East 1999 Eternal and The Art of War in front of Illmatic as well.
RVD420

Gaithersburg, MD

#13 Dec 21, 2007
Wow! U guys really need to do ur homework. Illmatic brought lyricism back to hip hop. So if you you don't appreciate the effort of being a lyricist by having similes, puns, metaphors, creativeness, storytelling, flow, structural complexity in your rhymes. Does not hip hop that's just poetry. Tupac is inspiring, Biggie has great flow, but Nas has the whole package. Btw if Illmatic is too complex to understand to ya don't just dissmiss it, just say you don't understand it.
RLL

Anchorage, AK

#14 Dec 23, 2007
Wut was wrong with the lyrics b4 Illmatic? And the hell u think u are actin like we don't understand illmatic. Just cuz we don't like it as much as u don't mean u smarter than us.
RVD 420

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Dec 24, 2007
Actually, I was talking to you specifically RLL. Regardless, I don't think I'm smarter than you or anyone else, but your lack of knowledge of hip hop is pretty clear. The only albums that you mentioned earlier that were critically acclaimed were Me Against the World, Ready to Die and I think East 1999 Eternal. Putting the other albums in the same level as Illmatic is completely wrong. Is not about liking the Illmatic, although it is a great album, but its more about it's significance to hip hop. Here this should explain. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illmatic "Despite its low sales, Illmatic made a profound impact on the burgeoning hip hop underground circuit, and marked a major stylistic change in hip hop music by introducing a new standard of lyricism. Prior to the album's release, hip hop lyricism was mostly defined by two popular forms. One was characterized by a fast-paced Ragga-flow accompanied with a whimsical, often nonsensical lyrical delivery, and had been popularized by the Brooklyn-based groups Das EFX and The Fu-Schnickens. The other form was characterized by a slurred "lazy drawl" that sacrificed lyrical complexity for clarity and rhythmic cadence, and was exemplified by popular West Coast hip hop artists such as Snoop Doggy Dogg. However, Illmatic's rhythmically-immaculate verbal pace and intricate, multi-syllabic internal rhyme patterns, inspired several rappers to modify their rapping abilities — bringing a renewed focus on lyricism to hip hop....."
RLL

Anchorage, AK

#16 Dec 24, 2007
I don't know. To me all those albums I named are better than Illmatic to me. I'm not sayin' I don't like Illmatic cuz I love nas (one of the best rappers alive) but I guess I just look at hip hop different then most. And when u talk about how the lyrics were b4 nas came wut about Ice Cube and Treach. Those 2 were rappin' b4 nas and they are lyrical beasts. Ice Cube may very well be the best lyrical rapper ever. Also the Wu-Tang Clan. They were b4 nas and they tore up lyrics as well. So I think Illmatic is a classic album but there are albums better to me. By the way, sorry 4 soundin' like a d1ck on my last comment.
njhfdshny

Aiea, HI

#18 Dec 28, 2007
biggie sucks im sorry big fans but hes just a fat gay ball. pac owns biggie hands down
RVD 420

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Dec 31, 2007
I also apologize for sounding like the second d1ck lol. I think Illmatic is better than the albums that you mentioned because of its impact it had on hip hop, superior lyrical complexity, narrative structure of the album and content. 36 Chambers (93) put east coast rap back on the map, Illmatic (Early 94) brought lyricism back to hip hop and Ready to die (Late 94) was one of the first commercially successful hip hop albums. 36 Chambers album is a great Classic. My fav 3 Wu members have to be the GZA, Redman and Ghostface. Raekwon’s Only built for Cuban Linx is crazy. U r right about Cube being a lyrical beast. This in combination with him setting trends (with 3 classic albums), his longevity, his storytelling and his socio-political messages gets him in my greatest of all time list. I wasn’t aware we could put other people on this list other than the ones mentioned in the title. Nas, as much as it hurts me because he is my favorite emcee, is not numero 1 in my eyes. I know of other emcee with a more complete package and more influence on hip hop than Nas has had. This is my greatest of all time list (5)Nas, (4)Big Daddy Kane, (3)Ice Cube, (2)KRS-ONE and (Drum rolls please)....(1)Rakim. I hope that one day he may move up on my list but for now Nas is #5.
RLL

Anchorage, AK

#20 Dec 31, 2007
That's cool. I feel ya on that one. One thing though, when u said that ur favorite Wu members u mentioned Redman. Redman wasn't in the Wu Tang Clan. U probably mean Method Man, he did rap quite a lot wit Redman though. Don't get me wrong, I do like Nas. I was listenin' to him a couple days ago. My favorite songs off Illmatic is Halftime and NY State of Mind. I gotta say, lyrically he killed that album. Also It was Written was good too. My favorite song off that album being The Message. So lyrically Nas is in one of the top spots on my list. But I don't know, 4 me theres just somethin' about pac. Lyrically I will admit that Nas and Biggie were better than pac, but pac did rhyme and wut he said in his raps said alot to me.
RVD420

Brooklyn, NY

#22 Jan 4, 2008
My Bad, yeah I meant Method Man. I love Illmatic from start to finish. I personally like NY State of Mind, One Love and It Ain’t Hard to Tell. When I heard Eminem’s Stan the first time, it reminded me of One Love so much. Both letter raps are very nice. When I try to determine who’s the greatest, I take into consideration the following: Longevity (How long has the rapper been able to last in the game), quality and quantity (How productive was the rapper during his/her carrier), content (Diversity, originality, not being repetitive), lyrics (structural complexity, delivery, flow etc) and influence (How did he/she impacted hip hop and other rappers that came after). I really like Me Against the World. The best tracks for me are Dear Mama and Young N****z. I like Pac because when he raped his lines he made you feel his emotions through his delivery and I could make a great argument as to Pac having one of the best voices in hip hop. However, putting Pac against my criteria I can only place him as #7 on my list.

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