Gothic People
Big Chief Smack A Hoe

Apo, AE

#22 Oct 27, 2007
Another fad to take your money kids, godd job on being stupid and good job to corp america for making money off of you:>
Moth

Ionia, MI

#23 Oct 29, 2007
Dreadfully Yours wrote:
Moth, I had that same problem back after I started college. I had carbon copies of some butchered trend wanting to be my friend and dressing like me. I've found usually when this happens, its not just the scene you're into, or the music you listen to/way you dress that attracts them. Some of the kids might find a personality trait that you don't see, and admire you for it. I'm not saying that this is the cause, just thought that it might be an interesting perspective or spin on things if you will.
yeah I would like to think that I open peoples eyes to another take on things, and I think in alot of ways I do (if people are willing to listen that is) but yes I am by no means impressed with the whole "I hate myself, I wanna die, my parents hate me, I love Marilyn Manson" take that too many of these poor kids try impressing me with. oh well I guess somewhere down the line I failed with them (kidding).
Moth

Ionia, MI

#24 Oct 29, 2007
Big Chief Smack A Hoe wrote:
Another fad to take your money kids, godd job on being stupid and good job to corp america for making money off of you:>
Have you been following the conversation? or are you just set on getting in a fight? If your going to fight, fight for a cause otherwise dont make us sit through any of your crap.

“Woohoo!!!!!”

Since: Jul 07

Does it matter?

#25 Oct 30, 2007
Moth wrote:
<quoted text> yeah I would like to think that I open peoples eyes to another take on things, and I think in alot of ways I do (if people are willing to listen that is) but yes I am by no means impressed with the whole "I hate myself, I wanna die, my parents hate me, I love Marilyn Manson" take that too many of these poor kids try impressing me with. oh well I guess somewhere down the line I failed with them (kidding).
Its good that you do that too. I have tried doing that, but who in the right mind would listen to a short girl who looks like I should be back in the 9th grade? There is more to being goth than just dressing like one. And the sad fact that-thats what alot of people base it on is just pathetic. I don't even go to the mall anymore [unless I really need to] because the people there are just drawn to me....like a moth to the flame. I just wish people would listen to me.........*sighs* But I'm rambling, not making much sense right now. I think its even more sad to think those things. Maybe in some situations the parents do resent them for dressing in all black, or listening to different music. But I wish they would take those books about per se, Tim Burton, Robert Smith, H.R. Giger, Peter Murphy, or Siouxie and not just read it, but take it to heart. Those people up there are noted as the Forefounders of Goth [well the music, movies and art we know and love]. And if they don't read or know about them and are a secret Dani Filth worshipper, they should look into those people. They're awesome.
ali

United States

#26 Jan 8, 2008
alesha wrote:
id rather not read something untruthful. Its worthless. I dont get how the "gothic" people or should i say people that think they are gothic can bash anything, and then someone [like me] says something and they wine about it. it actually made me laugh. haha. me and partner cant stop laughing
i dont think you acctually know what goth is! i think you're just a bored littel emo who has nothing better to do than bash on other people to make your self feel better. so really go get a life and do your self a favor learn about the goth colture!
Nicholaos

Peterborough, Canada

#27 Oct 14, 2008
I believe that you are Goth if you are naturaly drawn to the subculture so to speak. I belive that it is very personal as well. Who you are as an idividual determines what "type" of goth you are. Why would anyone continue to stand firm in a world of nonconformity through all of the ridcule and critisism if you truly don't believe that this is who you are? I have people tell me that I can't be a good parent because I am goth. How ignorant is that! I was drawn to all things goth many years ago and have been subject to judgment for it and still I know who I am. Just realize that the judges out there may not.

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#28 Oct 14, 2008
even though this thread is older than the internets i must say those people you're talking about sounds more like something someone that dislikes goth into the core would come up with just so he/she could have something negative to say about them.

again, above me is a bump of life so the person who created his probably already got his/hers share of herectics and dreadfully yours logic, just liked to add this to the stuborn who never give up.

Since: Sep 07

Minneapolis, MN

#29 Oct 15, 2008
Nicholaos wrote:
I have people tell me that I can't be a good parent because I am goth. How ignorant is that!
Heh. Every one of us has been told something similar at some point. I happen to be an African-American. Can you imagine what people have had the nerve to say to me about my interests and beliefs?
I was drawn to all things goth many years ago and have been subject to judgment for it and still I know who I am.
Yep, I'm with you there as well. I just turned 40 and I figure I've been a Goth for over 25 years. Of course, that term made it over here from England years after my interests and style had manifested (in the Midwest, we use to call ourselves "Daksiders"). I suppose I'm used to being prejudged for any number of reasons so getting funny looks and snide comments for wearing creepy black clothing and unusual jewelry is a very minor thing compared to many other experiences.
Just realize that the judges out there may not.
Agreed. Half of the reason Goths face exclusion and ridicule is the inability of most other people to resist social pressures. Too many people lack the strength to simply stand up and be themselves.

Take a close look at the faces of those who would judge. Envy looks quite a bit like hated.

- Heretic

Since: Sep 07

Minneapolis, MN

#30 Oct 20, 2008
Heretic1010 wrote:
(in the Midwest, we use to call ourselves "Daksiders")
Ack. I meant to type "Darksiders" with an "r". Friggin' typo gremlins....

- Heretic

Since: Sep 07

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Dec 2, 2008
Big Chief Smack A Hoe wrote:
Another fad to take your money kids, godd job on being stupid and good job to corp america for making money off of you:>
I know I'm responding to a very old post, but I am also well aware of the fact that we have lurkers here who happen to believe this moron is correct in his assessment of Gothic culture.

Allow me to clarify this issue.

Saying that the Gothic subculture is nothing more than a fad designed to generate money from blind consumers of prepackaged culture is putting the cart way before the horse. Like any other area of interest (particularly youth cultures), what we know now as the Gothic subculture came into being and thrived LONG before anyone managed to figure out a way to exploit it and make a buck off of it.

How ignorant was your post? Your might as well have accused people in a Classical music forum of being followers of a stupid, music-based "fad" and praising orchestras for creating an industry designed taking their money.

*shakes head*

Consumerism is another issue entirely. While it may have its tentacles in our subculture, as it does in nearly every aspect of modern American life, it does not form the basis of it.

- Heretic

Since: Oct 07

Too many to list.

#32 Dec 3, 2008
Heretic1010 wrote:
<quoted text>
I know I'm responding to a very old post, but I am also well aware of the fact that we have lurkers here who happen to believe this moron is correct in his assessment of Gothic culture.
Allow me to clarify this issue.
Saying that the Gothic subculture is nothing more than a fad designed to generate money from blind consumers of prepackaged culture is putting the cart way before the horse. Like any other area of interest (particularly youth cultures), what we know now as the Gothic subculture came into being and thrived LONG before anyone managed to figure out a way to exploit it and make a buck off of it.
How ignorant was your post? Your might as well have accused people in a Classical music forum of being followers of a stupid, music-based "fad" and praising orchestras for creating an industry designed taking their money.
*shakes head*
Consumerism is another issue entirely. While it may have its tentacles in our subculture, as it does in nearly every aspect of modern American life, it does not form the basis of it.
- Heretic
In all honesty. That guy probably didnt have a clue what he was talking about. He probably just came from the punk forum, soaked in everything he'd heard and figured he would recite it all to us at the best of his ability. Its just his little way of trying to sound intellectual.

Since: Sep 07

Minneapolis, MN

#33 Dec 3, 2008
Moth wrote:
<quoted text>
In all honesty. That guy probably didnt have a clue what he was talking about. He probably just came from the punk forum, soaked in everything he'd heard and figured he would recite it all to us at the best of his ability. Its just his little way of trying to sound intellectual.
Agreed. I just hate to leave thoughts like that unchallenged.

Besides, I wish someone had told me these things when I was younger. If I have managed to provide even one kindergothen with enough ammunition to fight back against ridicule or repression, I'll be more than happy.

- Heretic

“Twitter: @Shrubbehfish”

Since: Apr 08

Augusta, GA

#34 Dec 3, 2008
Dreadfully Yours wrote:
<quoted text>
Its good that you do that too. I have tried doing that, but who in the right mind would listen to a short girl who looks like I should be back in the 9th grade? There is more to being goth than just dressing like one. And the sad fact that-thats what alot of people base it on is just pathetic. I don't even go to the mall anymore [unless I really need to] because the people there are just drawn to me....like a moth to the flame. I just wish people would listen to me.........*sighs* But I'm rambling, not making much sense right now. I think its even more sad to think those things. Maybe in some situations the parents do resent them for dressing in all black, or listening to different music. But I wish they would take those books about per se, Tim Burton, Robert Smith, H.R. Giger, Peter Murphy, or Siouxie and not just read it, but take it to heart. Those people up there are noted as the Forefounders of Goth [well the music, movies and art we know and love]. And if they don't read or know about them and are a secret Dani Filth worshipper, they should look into those people. They're awesome.
Don't forget Edgar Allan Poe and Anne Rice ;]. It's sad that people don't know what gothic is when they teach it right in the schools.=_= They even teach victorian and romanticism so what the hell. O.o I guess much people aren't really into reading. Hell I aint either but atleast I pay attention

Since: Jan 08

Sydney, Australia

#35 Dec 4, 2008
PSIskull wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget Edgar Allan Poe and Anne Rice ;]. It's sad that people don't know what gothic is when they teach it right in the schools.=_= They even teach victorian and romanticism so what the hell. O.o I guess much people aren't really into reading. Hell I aint either but atleast I pay attention
Anne Rice books are awful

“Twitter: @Shrubbehfish”

Since: Apr 08

Augusta, GA

#36 Dec 4, 2008
Love and Communication wrote:
<quoted text>
Anne Rice books are awful
>_> holy shit love and communications I haven't seen you in a long time, how have you been? o.o

Since: Oct 07

Too many to list.

#37 Dec 4, 2008
Love and Communication wrote:
<quoted text>
Anne Rice books are awful
I feel a good debate coming on here.

Whats your reasoning?

Since: Jan 08

Sydney, Australia

#38 Dec 4, 2008
Moth wrote:
<quoted text>
I feel a good debate coming on here.
Whats your reasoning?
Hahaha prepare to be disapointed by my lack of debating skills

I find Anne Rice books have a LOT of potential but unfortantly she didn't deliver for me, the way she carried on and on about tiny little things that coud have been summed up in a paragraph annoyed me the most
I just don't get why shes so popular, the vampire thing has been done to death and I haven't read one I enjoyed in a long while

But at least her books are better than Twilight ;P

Since: Jan 08

Sydney, Australia

#39 Dec 4, 2008
PSIskull wrote:
<quoted text>
>_> holy shit love and communications I haven't seen you in a long time, how have you been? o.o
I've been here just lurking
I'm good thanks its SUMMER and I love it
Hows you?

“Twitter: @Shrubbehfish”

Since: Apr 08

Augusta, GA

#40 Dec 5, 2008
summer??? oh that's right you're in australia. I'm doing good. Just trying to find some sites that the school didn't block where i can download some free music at ._. I love that my teachers don't care what I do on the comp ;]
Gene

United States

#41 Jan 12, 2011
Being Goth is about making your own path and your own rules. It's so silly to hear people say one band or another is not goth. As far as music goes, if a Goth wants to listen to it, it's as goth as it needs to be.

Me personally, I was goth from when I was a sperm. I listen to what I want and it varies from day to day. No it isn't a religion, I do research and that is my religion. Goth in simplest terms is an appreciation for the beauty in darkness, the things most people shy away from. It deviates from the rules and makes it's own way, and therefore permiters are almost silly.

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