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“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

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#21 May 24, 2009
Dreadfully Yours wrote:
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That is true that it is the power of the people that sets these guys away. But a lot of times I've seen in trials that the judge often makes a decision that overrules the jury. But next time I see something that is as big as an injustice as that, I will definitely write the district that had the original trial. I'm seriously considering the animal organization that does routine checkups of the kennels and mills in the Philadelphia region. That they don't thoroughly inspect it, they just pass it based on a few conditions. Thats not enough.
yep and complaining about it will solve nothing, you have to get out there and let people know what they're doing wrong, and let them know what is right!
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#22 May 27, 2009
Flying Don wrote:
<quoted text>yep and complaining about it will solve nothing, you have to get out there and let people know what they're doing wrong, and let them know what is right!
Yea. Its mostly these American Taliban-ees [when I say that, I mean those super religious freaks that take the bible out of context and this and that is wrong and crap]that are on this crap. Because of them, there is no death penalty, prisons are overcrowded, and stuff. But the way this country is run, church overrules state. We should reduce this population. Starting with the prisons, then maybe concentrate on repeat offenders. Same thing.

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#23 May 28, 2009
well death penalty i'm a little so and so on!
i don't like it, however with repeat offenders as you say, i think it's plausible. also people who're in for life!

by the way! what are your views on helping someone to die? like people who're in this horrible medical condition that they don't want to live anymore.
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#24 Jun 1, 2009
Flying Don wrote:
well death penalty i'm a little so and so on!
i don't like it, however with repeat offenders as you say, i think it's plausible. also people who're in for life!
by the way! what are your views on helping someone to die? like people who're in this horrible medical condition that they don't want to live anymore.
In the county/town I'm in, there are a lot of repeat offenders of some sort. It could be drinking and driving, for others it could be assault. Those guys deserve the death sentence. If you let em go with a slap on the wrist and they commit the crime again, what makes any jury think that they genuinely want to go good? We're talking about people [I'm talking about rapists and murderers] who are sick in the head. People who will never ever clean up. At the very least give em' a life sentence so that the streets are clean. Thats all I'm saying. They let these people go, and the trouble happens again. I don't care how much they're paying their lawyer, if they have stone cold evidence to prove they did the crime, why let them go with anything less?
Kind of like assisting suicide? Kind of what Kevorkian did with the elderly patients? I'm all for it. If someone is in so much pain it hinders their ability to live, they by all means have the right to take it away. Its called human will, and the right to your own life. Doctors are afraid of doing that and getting their ass sued. Man, why not sign a contract when you have an operation? People are too damn sue happy over here!

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#25 Jun 3, 2009
it's an never ending discussion! i've heard pretty good arguments on both sides!
i just don't know wether i'm for or against it.
neutral i'd say.

however, life sentences and death penalty, what's the difference? well life sentence costs one hell of alot of money! which is why i think death is better than life for everyone!

having a possibility to take your own life would also make everything so much better. not only does the handicaped person, who feel there's no use in struggling anymore, need to live with this pain until they die from natural causes. but the hospitals won't be as crowded anymore.

the problem is, like you say people suing eachother, but it's also the fact that letting someone die goes against most doctors contracts that they usually sign when they start working at a hospital! for an example, if a doctor sees someone who is suffocating, he MUST help, it would be against the law if he ignored it. you and me however, does not HAVE to help someone who is in the need of help. it's our choice if we want to live with that sort of guilt.

my point is, a doctor is not allowed to let someone die. even if they realize that there's no help to be found for the patient, they're still not allowed to help him die. because it's against the law.

change the law, and it will be okay!
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#26 Jun 6, 2009
Flying Don wrote:
it's an never ending discussion! i've heard pretty good arguments on both sides!
i just don't know wether i'm for or against it.
neutral i'd say.
however, life sentences and death penalty, what's the difference? well life sentence costs one hell of alot of money! which is why i think death is better than life for everyone!
I don't know the costs of a lethal injection [why not go out with style? electric chair? now thats what I'm talking about!], but I am aware that they have several doctors on hand when they do that. But to the best of my knowledge, it costs more for them to serve a life sentence! Because they need housing, clothing and all the basic crap. Guess who pays? No, not Mr. Politician, its the tax payers. Thats why I'm in favor of it, plus, you rid the earth of one scumbag. Who wouldn't like that?
Flying Don wrote:
having a possibility to take your own life would also make everything so much better. not only does the handicaped person, who feel there's no use in struggling anymore, need to live with this pain until they die from natural causes. but the hospitals won't be as crowded anymore.
Even if the hospitals aren't as crowded, they'd still try and getcha out as soon as possible. Whether you're treated or not. But I agree. People should be able to do that. Its not really a huge deal to me. If kids kill themselves and its no big deal, but the elderly or severely handicapped and in pain do, its a problem.*scratches head* I really don't understand it, as long as the person consented to it, and wanted it, its legal. If not, then and only then would it count as murder.
I understand that a doctor is supposed to do that, but if a person doesn't want to be saved, and the doctor lets them go, thats breaking the law? What about free will? The right to choice and choosing, it is a human right. I'm sorry, but all the branches of any kind of government or what have you in this world are so fucked. How could you be more screwy? Saying you can choose life or death and not having a choice when you're on your deathbed?

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#27 Jun 7, 2009
Dreadfully Yours wrote:
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I don't know the costs of a lethal injection [why not go out with style? electric chair? now thats what I'm talking about!], but I am aware that they have several doctors on hand when they do that. But to the best of my knowledge, it costs more for them to serve a life sentence! Because they need housing, clothing and all the basic crap. Guess who pays? No, not Mr. Politician, its the tax payers. Thats why I'm in favor of it, plus, you rid the earth of one scumbag. Who wouldn't like that?
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Even if the hospitals aren't as crowded, they'd still try and getcha out as soon as possible. Whether you're treated or not. But I agree. People should be able to do that. Its not really a huge deal to me. If kids kill themselves and its no big deal, but the elderly or severely handicapped and in pain do, its a problem.*scratches head* I really don't understand it, as long as the person consented to it, and wanted it, its legal. If not, then and only then would it count as murder.
I understand that a doctor is supposed to do that, but if a person doesn't want to be saved, and the doctor lets them go, thats breaking the law? What about free will? The right to choice and choosing, it is a human right. I'm sorry, but all the branches of any kind of government or what have you in this world are so fucked. How could you be more screwy? Saying you can choose life or death and not having a choice when you're on your deathbed?
that's what i'm saying, life sentence costs more than death sentence.

it's pretty much the same as the question about abortion!
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#28 Jun 11, 2009
Flying Don wrote:
<quoted text>that's what i'm saying, life sentence costs more than death sentence.
it's pretty much the same as the question about abortion!
I say that prisons are just too much of a hassle. If these guys want to off themselves on death row, let em. They're gonna die anyway.....in 30 years....when they're off death row.......what the hell is the purpose of a death row anyway? To give the people a feeling of justice? Eh eh. No way. You want justice anymore, take it out of the bible fuckers hands. Take it into your own, maybe then something gets accomplished. God knows the gov't doesn't do a good enough job of it. But what was the question? Oh yes, abortion. I would go so far as to say more people should have them. Especially considering the economy and current overpopulation of the planet. I don't know. I'm just not much for conversation today. But I'll talk anyway.

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#29 Jun 11, 2009
well it's hard for me to pick a side really, it has to do with what my personality is and what i learned when i grew up.

all these things like abortion and death sentences, even if they would be the more logical way of solving problems, it still feels wrong in some way!

GURU OF GREATNESS

“BCA”

Since: Feb 08

PALACE OF WISDOM

#30 Jun 12, 2009
i love guru
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#31 Jun 14, 2009
Flying Don wrote:
well it's hard for me to pick a side really, it has to do with what my personality is and what i learned when i grew up.
all these things like abortion and death sentences, even if they would be the more logical way of solving problems, it still feels wrong in some way!
In my mind, thats all I can see as the logical way. I don't think I can see it any other way. I've tried, and I can't. Come to think of it, I haven't seen it any other way since my accident. Its just my frame of mind I think. I can be told that there are other view points, someone could explain them to me, but its not me. As far as abortions go, its a double sided issue with me. I can see perfectly from both sides, but I'm more pro than con. As far as death goes, I say off with their heads! Ok. Not seriously, but it should be enforced more. Especially with these serial killers. They go on a killing spree, and they get life in prison. They killed more than one person, and they get to live? Am I missing something here. Currently here in the States, only two inmates a year die from lethal injection. Look, I know it costs money to kill these fuckers and put em out of their misery. But it costs sooooo much more to keep them alive. Which is more cost effective? Paying for heat, cooling, 3 meals a day + water, and not to mention cable? Or just one lethal injection and a paramedic? If they can do that with one inmate or even two a month, every month, could you imagine how much better things would be? The reason why these guys do it, is because they know they won't die. They'll get life and thats it. If there were something to inject fear into these people, maybe the world would be a little bit better.

GURU OF GREATNESS

“BCA”

Since: Feb 08

PALACE OF WISDOM

#32 Jun 14, 2009
stop ignoring me

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#33 Jun 21, 2009
Dreadfully Yours wrote:
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In my mind, thats all I can see as the logical way. I don't think I can see it any other way. I've tried, and I can't. Come to think of it, I haven't seen it any other way since my accident. Its just my frame of mind I think. I can be told that there are other view points, someone could explain them to me, but its not me. As far as abortions go, its a double sided issue with me. I can see perfectly from both sides, but I'm more pro than con. As far as death goes, I say off with their heads! Ok. Not seriously, but it should be enforced more. Especially with these serial killers. They go on a killing spree, and they get life in prison. They killed more than one person, and they get to live? Am I missing something here. Currently here in the States, only two inmates a year die from lethal injection. Look, I know it costs money to kill these fuckers and put em out of their misery. But it costs sooooo much more to keep them alive. Which is more cost effective? Paying for heat, cooling, 3 meals a day + water, and not to mention cable? Or just one lethal injection and a paramedic? If they can do that with one inmate or even two a month, every month, could you imagine how much better things would be? The reason why these guys do it, is because they know they won't die. They'll get life and thats it. If there were something to inject fear into these people, maybe the world would be a little bit better.
you have some very valid points there!

now to make your voice heard...
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#34 Jun 24, 2009
Flying Don wrote:
<quoted text>you have some very valid points there!
now to make your voice heard...
Thank you.:) I should write the United States National Congress and address this issue. Sure it isn't something that we all want to deal with, but it is something we have to do to keep a working order within the judicial and otherwise system.

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#35 Jun 25, 2009
if you ever become a known politician, be ready to face a major shitstorm from pro-lifers! there's alot of people who don't agree with you, and unlike me they do have some pretty good points as to why you should let criminals live!

GURU OF GREATNESS

“BCA”

Since: Feb 08

PALACE OF WISDOM

#36 Jun 26, 2009
ignoring me makes me wanna cry i'm tearing up
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#38 Jun 26, 2009
Dreadfully Yours wrote:
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I did want to be a politician. And still want to. And even if noone knows my name, I will make it so that I'm known for what I stand for. And I don't care about their shitstorm. They can shit in their own fucking grave [they are] for all I care. Truth is, not everyones gonna like one person or agree with them. But the point is, because [say hypothetically] I'm a politician. I have strong points and views, why should my views or life experiences be compromised because of what some no name jackoff thinks. Who [hypothetically] would have the power? Yea, I know its "power of the people" and that stuff. But does their view make my past, my opinion and knowing of whatever go away? Fuck no. They're just lucky I don't have a sledgehammer.
I'm just angry. What can I say? You have a bad day, and it does get to you.

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#40 Jun 27, 2009
i know what you mean. maybe you really SHOULD start some boxing or kicking classes to release all that negative energy.

or perhaps pick up meditation!
Dreadfully Yours

Cape May, NJ

#41 Jun 30, 2009
Flying Don wrote:
i know what you mean. maybe you really SHOULD start some boxing or kicking classes to release all that negative energy.
or perhaps pick up meditation!
I tried meditation before. It pisses me off. Kickboxing sounds like lotsa fun. At least I get to beat something up. Nah, I'm kidding. I would never beat something or someone up unless I felt attacked or something. Or during a test or something.

“Oh smartness, where art thou?”

Since: Nov 07

Dey tuk er jerbs!

#42 Jul 2, 2009
Dreadfully Yours wrote:
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I tried meditation before. It pisses me off. Kickboxing sounds like lotsa fun. At least I get to beat something up. Nah, I'm kidding. I would never beat something or someone up unless I felt attacked or something. Or during a test or something.
well isn't that the point of punching bags?

i'd really like to pick up meditation. during spring, in the forest, the birdsong is so tantalizing! i'll have to record it and put it on sometime when i meditate.

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