Tips for New LDS Bloggers

Tips for New LDS Bloggers

There are 114 comments on the Mormanity story from Jan 10, 2008, titled Tips for New LDS Bloggers. In it, Mormanity reports that:

I've been getting a lot of email recently from enthusiastic LDS folks anxious to start blogging, inspired by some recent comments of Elder Russel M. Ballard encouraging students and others to take up blogging ... via Mormanity

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Where is Mohan

Taylorsville, UT

#1 Jan 10, 2008
What a waste of bandwidth.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#2 Dec 5, 2008
Here is a very well written book on the
Mountain Meadow Massacre that I just finished reading! The author has given the online community complete access to the full Book !
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/meadowsconten ...
I highly encourage everyone to read this book!
I have read a lot about the massacre but was really impressed with this book and learned even more !
(I'm sure some of the mormons will try to claim the book is full of lies! that seems to be their stratagy, but read it and judge for yourself!)

I can hardly wait to read a nice lds blog that explains how the Mountain Meadows Massacre is a figment of my imagination !
Phirt

United States

#3 Dec 5, 2008
In addition to the MMM book being a full of lies, they may as well try and say the BofM not full of lies either.

Either way, they are lying.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#4 Dec 5, 2008
I notice that the mormon's are constantly calling people liars without backing up anything.
I've noticed it in every sub that I have posted.
I could say the sun is shining and I would be attacked as a liar !
The book that I recommended in my previous post is worth the read! Phirt is calling respected members of our armed forces who served their country with honor, liars ! this is outrageous !
Read the book !
Larry

Topeka, KS

#5 Dec 5, 2008
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
I notice that the mormon's are constantly calling people liars without backing up anything.
I've noticed it in every sub that I have posted.
I could say the sun is shining and I would be attacked as a liar !
The book that I recommended in my previous post is worth the read! Phirt is calling respected members of our armed forces who served their country with honor, liars ! this is outrageous !
Read the book !
I have not only proven that you are a lier but posted the full quotes that you stole from that book and tried to claim that you had done the research on each quote. I went not to the Book but to the original sources and posted the full quotes in full context. In every case your source from which you plagerized your research left important things out that made the quotes say something differnent from what they realy said.
TheTruthShallMak eYouFree

Kelseyville, CA

#6 Dec 6, 2008
I can't say enough about this moving account of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Here is the introduction that I cut and pasted from the website.
"INTRODUCTION.

Some five years ago a prominent Salt Lake editor, in a letter to the writer, said: "The Mountain Meadows massacre is an incident that should be forgotten." The gentleman, a well-known Gentile, was in error; the human family learns only by experience. The lessons taught by the tragedies of the past come down to us in the form of history and become danger signals along the highway of advancing civilization, and warn us of the peril that marches hand in hand with human passions, with ignorance and superstition.

Speaking specifically, the Mountain Meadows massacre should not be forgotten as long as Mormon writers, pulpiteers and missionaries use the ''Missouri Persecutions," the "Martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum Smith," and the "Expulsion of the Saints from Nauvoo" as influences for proselyting. Nor should the discussion of any prominent tragedy cease until the causes that unerringly led up to the act shall have been eradicated, or until the lesson that it teaches is no longer necessary. The Mountain Meadows massacre should be kept before the public until unquestioning obedience to the will of the Mormon "prophets" shall be no longer exacted from the Mormon people, or until its deadening, damning influence is exterminated. Those who suggest such lapses of memory as that suggested by the Salt Lake editor do so in the interest of "peace in Utah," a "peace" that would be purchased by the surrender of justice to injustice, of right to wrong, of the present to the future - a surrender in Utah of moral progress and civil liberty to mercenary advantages and political bribes held out by the "prophets" and the Mormon and pro-Mormon press as the price of silence."

here is the website where you can read the whole book !
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/meadows1.htm

Remember ! this is just the tip of the iceberg!
Everyone do your homework ! Get involved !
With world wide internet access , everyone can do research that could only be done by financially backed scholars!
The battle beween Love and Hate today is very real!
Grandpasmurf952

Kelseyville, CA

#7 Dec 6, 2008
Larry,
In context, out of context, the facts remain the same. You can keep trying to denigrate my observations, and you can accuse me of theft when I cut and paste things that I feel should be known, but you can not shut me up! Not even your death angels will silence the voice of truth!
If I disappear a hundred more will take my place!

Remeber Folks! the battle is real !

It is a battle between the forces of love and the forces of hate!
Love does not engage in violence!

just say no to theodemocracy (demon theocracy )
collinsfriend

Kelseyville, CA

#8 Dec 6, 2008
Larry-get a grip. Smith was an imposter, trying to replace Jesus, which he failed miserably at,except with a few followers. The LDS church is trying to mainstream by jumping on and with other church's bandwagon hoping the FLDS will be forgotten and the LDS can get a foothold to convert more people to your theodemocracy and anti-Christic belilef system.I realize you don't BELIEVE it is anti Christic because you are a "true believer" who is unable to think independently of the church doctrine. Perhaps someday, you will be capable of looking at thengs objectively and quit denying the contradictions you live in.
nothing but the truth

Kelseyville, CA

#9 Dec 6, 2008
One thing to think about. Mormon, JW and Evangelical churches have a set of fears and coersions not always understood by others. Their families,friends and church members would/will excommunicate,shun,disfellowsh ip them if they actually changed their minds. Therefore,to argue with them really is fruitless (not that it stops me LOL),but they have a vested interest in maintaining the belief system they have. They can't "afford" in their minds to lose that-their families and friends with the church leaders instruction and blessing will no longer speak,eat or include them in family functions FOREVER.They will not be welcome in church unless they "repent" Mormons also believe in blood atonement for sins not accepted by church as forgivable.Even if repented-they will have to earn back the "trust" as an obedient member which may never be fully accepted. I've SEEN this happen more than once.It is not something they warn newcomers about because of the obvious.
there-it-is

Kelseyville, CA

#10 Dec 6, 2008
Grandpasmurf-The "Jesus Christ" part of their name is just a "lost leader". They won't be able to recognize the Christian standards because Jesus has a backseat to Joseph Smith and his ilk.

“I Believe in Christ”

Since: Nov 08

Salt Lake City, UT

#11 Dec 6, 2008
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
Here is a very well written book on the
Mountain Meadow Massacre that I just finished reading! The author has given the online community complete access to the full Book !
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/meadowsconten ...
I highly encourage everyone to read this book!
I have read a lot about the massacre but was really impressed with this book and learned even more !
(I'm sure some of the mormons will try to claim the book is full of lies! that seems to be their stratagy, but read it and judge for yourself!)
I can hardly wait to read a nice lds blog that explains how the Mountain Meadows Massacre is a figment of my imagination !
Grandpasmurf,

Just when I thought you'd finally started to actually stop smearing anti-Mormon literature and have wholesome, meaningful conversations I find this post, yet again. The fact remains that Mountain Meadows Massacre DID happen, and no one is trying to deny it. However, when quotes are taken out of context, misinterpretations DO happen. I could say "Man, I am hot! Look at me, I'm sweating all over the place! Gosh, I need some water to cool down. I think I'm getting a sun burn." Now, someone could take what I said right there and "tweak" it. They could make me look conceited about my looks. They could take what I said and drop everything but what made me look like I was talking myself up. "Man, I'm hot! Look at me!" See where taking a quote out of context and manipulating it can totally change the meaning? I wasn't talking about how good I looked, I was talking how hot I was temperature wise, but you could take it and manipulate my exact words into meaning something completely different. This happens a LOT to everyone! I mean, just watch Comedy Central clips from the presidential campaigns! They take clips and quotes and totally manipulate it to fit their comedy, when in reality they had nothing to do with it. This is what people who are against other people do. The authors of that book don't hide the fact that they are angry and against the LDS church, so why believe what they have to say like it is from the mouth of God? If I'm angry with someone, I might get a little carried away when I vent to my husband and make up scenarios that aren't entirely true. I am a very passive person by nature, but when I finally burst, I BURST. I take all of my anger I can muster and yell everything I want to yell at that person into a pillow because I know I will say things that aren't true and very hurtful. After my freak out session, I calmly call the person who upset me and proceed to calmly tell them what they did to upset me, and try and figure out how we can work it out. The authors of that book decided to take their anger out on the church instead.

Nothing helps when you attack people and tell them they are wrong. It just makes them shut their ears and harden their hearts to what you have to say.

“I Believe in Christ”

Since: Nov 08

Salt Lake City, UT

#12 Dec 6, 2008
Also, if anyone were to actually read what Joseph Smith and the modern prophets an apostles have to say, you'd realize that all they do is talk of Christ and how to become more like Him. This is not the "Church of Joseph Smith", it is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We do not worship the prophet, we worship our God and Savior. The prophet is just here to guide us through the struggles of today, and to remind us to remember Christ in all things.

www.lds.org

Go there and read what they really have to say. Not what someone says they say. That is how rumors, lies, and half-truths get started. Information is lost or added according to what the informer wants to say. Don't take my word for it that we believe in Christ. Read the Bible and the Book of Mormon for yourselves. Listen to the General Conference talks for yourselves. Attend an LDS church meeting for yourselves. Pray to Heavenly Father after doing these things. It may be for you, it may not be.

Please, never take ANYONE'S word until you've done these things for yourselves.
orphanannie

Austin, TX

#13 Dec 6, 2008
How is murdering innocent women, children, and men 'out of context'? They didn't kill themselves! The Indians didn't kill them! The US Army didn't kill them....soooo who killed them?
THE MORMONS!!!
Now, what part of "THE MORMONS KILLED 120 men women and children" is out of context for you?
KILLING is KILLING!! the infants and toddlers and small children didn't have weaponry did they? They weren't running through the prarie declaring war on the Mormons, were they? So, tell me neutral, what is out of context for you?
You can wrap poop up in a nicely decorated gift box with a fancy bow on top, but it still stinks and it's still poop, honey...
your cult has done everything it can to twist, manuever around, and distort the truth, and then tells YOU that it's the anti's that are taking things out of context...
ARe you sure about that? Have YOU personally ever taken the time to read something not printed by or researched by or approved of by one of your mormon elders? How do you know you aren't being lied to?
If the mormons were so forthcoming about this incident, why did it take them over a hundred years to confess that it was THEM? Your cult leaders blamed the Indians for over a hundred years for this horrific crime! Now, what part of that is 'out of context'? If you were such good Christians, why wasn't the sin of murder admitted to from the beginning, instead of pinned on a scapegoat and a group of Indians?
If your cult is really truth telling and truthfully living, shouldn't the very high echelons of your cult be telling you the truth, instead of manufacturing excuses at every turn, until they FINALLY had to admit participation in the murders?
THAT SHOULD BE A SIGN TO YOU. Since when did Christ ever lie to anyone? Since when did Christ ever take the life of someone and blame another?
Obviously, you aren't following Christ, are you?

“I Believe in Christ”

Since: Nov 08

Salt Lake City, UT

#14 Dec 6, 2008
The LDS church came out and admitted that MEMBERS of the LDS church, along with a few Indians, were responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre. That doesn't meant that the orders came from Brigham Young. What happened there was a tragedy of misinformation and what we now know as Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome. Just because the diagnosis is relatively new doesn't mean it didn't exist back then. Larry has already explained this to you with historical documents and other studies done independently of the LDS church, so I'm leaving it at that.

Also, men of God have been known for making mistakes (David and Bathsheba...) I believe that trying to cover up the fact that a group of renegade Mormons massacred an entire group of people was wrong. I do, however, understand some of the desperation that may have caused the cover-up. These were a people that were hated for what they believed. Other people, the ones who hated, were just itching for an excuse to wage war on the Mormons. The problem was that the Mormons were a law-abiding people who were very peaceful. I imagine that the church leaders were afraid that instead of a Missouri Extermination Act, there would become an American Extermination Act if anyone found out that a group of RENEGADE Mormons did this. They were afraid that the Church as a whole would be blamed for this isolated incident...I wonder why they had those fears...
As far as reading things other than official church documents, what else is there to read when wanting to learn more about an organization? I COULD go to someone who has an obvious hatred against the LDS church and read THEIR opinion of a hand-picked sliver of a talk that has been twisted and take their word for it, OR I could look up the original document in question and read it for myself and develop my own opinion after reading the entire thing. The second option sounds WAY more logical to me... Also, I have been alive long enough to have listened to several general conferences. I have recorded some and sat down and read the conference reports to make sure they didn't leave anything out. They didn't. What the general authorities say is what is written down. Simple as that.
I do read other literature other than church literature. I try and find things that uplift and edify. I used to be a real crime-drama addict, but recently things have gotten way too graphic. I have a very active imagination and I tried to "edit" the gory scenes in my head, but it didn't help, so I've shied away from them. I'll read anything, though. I've always been into history and love to read about new discoveries in archeology. I love mystery, fantasy, romance (not the trashy ones...), sci-fi, non-fiction biographies...the list goes on and on! Books are my passion.

“I Believe in Christ”

Since: Nov 08

Salt Lake City, UT

#15 Dec 6, 2008
Also, Annie, I have never taken the life of anyone. I have given life to others. Blaming ME for something that happened over 100 years ago is just silly. I wasn't even a "twinkle" in my parent's eye, seeing as they weren't even a "twinkle" themselves, and so on and so forth. When the LDS people bring up the persecutions brought against them, we aren't still blaming the families of those murdered our family members. We know they had no control over the situation. We just bring it up to show that we are descendants of a people with a very strong faith, and that we will strive to develop a faith that strong. If my ancestor could pull a handcart by herself and her 3 children 4 months pregnant with her husband and 2 other children buried along the trail, then I can make it through anything. My trials are nothing compared to what she went through. I have my husband, my children, my air conditioning and heater, my car, my soft mattress...and so on. My trials are NOTHING compared to what she went through. Her story gives me strength. The fact that the Saints made it through so much persecutions gives us strength. We come from a strong legacy of people. I am thankful for their sacrifice, because it causes me to look at what I think are difficult trials and realize that I could have it a lot worse than I do. We don't bring up these things to blame anybody. We bring it up to remember what was sacrificed so that we could have the blessings of the gospel here with us today.

www.lds.org
What are you afraid of?
Gyp

South Jordan, UT

#16 Dec 6, 2008
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
I notice that the mormon's are constantly calling people liars without backing up anything.
I've noticed it in every sub that I have posted.
I could say the sun is shining and I would be attacked as a liar !
The book that I recommended in my previous post is worth the read! Phirt is calling respected members of our armed forces who served their country with honor, liars ! this is outrageous !
Read the book !
I guess as a former LDS member and one who serves his country at Hill AFB I am the biggest bigot of them all!

Hooray!
Grandpasmurf952

Kelseyville, CA

#17 Dec 7, 2008
Neutral One ,
Perhaps this will help you understand where I am coming from. I live in California and this all started with the passage of proposition 8 .
I am not gay but I don't feel that gay people should be condemned for something they did not chose.(I've already been attacked for this statement) Until the defeat of prop 8, I knew nothing about the Mormons except the knowledge that their sacred book was in part
copied from the King James including the typos ! I found this out opening the book at random and recognizing the
passages. I quickly dismissed the mormons as an obvious fraud and didn't think about the mormons until it occurred to me that something suspicious was happening, with their feverish pushing to get prop 8 passed. I did some investigation on
my own and quickly uncovered their theodemocracy plot. There is enough information out there to clearly show that this group is a dangerous political group. Attacking the gays was much like Hitler attacking the Jews. a way of getting the
rest of the fundamentals on their side. Studying the history of the mormon church I learned that they are the most violent
religious group to be spawned on American Soil. The mormons are busy denying the facts that support their atrocities but anyone who cares to, can quickly find out the truth about their organization. They continue to lie and deny their
heritage where it tarnishes their image. I don't like attacking people's faith, Even a misunderstood approach to God is better than none but the danger they pose to our freedom in this country makes it vital that they be exposed !
If you study Hitler's rise to power , you find amazing parallels to the Mormon agenda. One other thing that could be just a coincidence is that the Mountain Meadows Massacre occurred 144 years to the day before the 9 11 attack on the
twin towers. The threat of theocracy is real, I know the intenet is full of conspiracy plots but
I think it is important that all of us get involved in protecting democracy!

“I Believe in Christ”

Since: Nov 08

Salt Lake City, UT

#18 Dec 7, 2008
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
Neutral One ,
Perhaps this will help you understand where I am coming from. I live in California and this all started with the passage of proposition 8 .
I am not gay but I don't feel that gay people should be condemned for something they did not chose.(I've already been attacked for this statement) Until the defeat of prop 8, I knew nothing about the Mormons except the knowledge that their sacred book was in part
copied from the King James including the typos ! I found this out opening the book at random and recognizing the
passages. I quickly dismissed the mormons as an obvious fraud and didn't think about the mormons until it occurred to me that something suspicious was happening, with their feverish pushing to get prop 8 passed. I did some investigation on
my own and quickly uncovered their theodemocracy plot. There is enough information out there to clearly show that this group is a dangerous political group. Attacking the gays was much like Hitler attacking the Jews. a way of getting the
rest of the fundamentals on their side. Studying the history of the mormon church I learned that they are the most violent
religious group to be spawned on American Soil. The mormons are busy denying the facts that support their atrocities but anyone who cares to, can quickly find out the truth about their organization. They continue to lie and deny their
heritage where it tarnishes their image. I don't like attacking people's faith, Even a misunderstood approach to God is better than none but the danger they pose to our freedom in this country makes it vital that they be exposed !
If you study Hitler's rise to power , you find amazing parallels to the Mormon agenda. One other thing that could be just a coincidence is that the Mountain Meadows Massacre occurred 144 years to the day before the 9 11 attack on the
twin towers. The threat of theocracy is real, I know the intenet is full of conspiracy plots but
I think it is important that all of us get involved in protecting democracy!
I replied to this in another post with links to talks given by Ezra Taft Benson. He laid out what the role of government should be, and I think you'll agree with him. Also, I included a talk by him called "Stand up for Freedom". These talks outline the "agenda" of the LDS church, and that is to have a fair democratic-republic and a strong, moral country. We believe that this country and government was inspired of God. Right now the country is on a path to socialism, not theocracy. We are allowing people with no morals to make the laws. Pretty soon "anything goes" legally.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#19 Dec 8, 2008
Here is a very disturbing quote from Brigham Young,
Four years later, Brigham Young stopped at Mountain Meadows. Federal troops, outraged at the massacre, had erected a makeshift monument to those who had been murdered. On it were the words, "Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, and I will repay." Young gazed at it for a time, then ordered the monument torn down. "Vengeance is mine," he muttered, "and I have taken a little."
This was cut and pasted from this website:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/program/episo...

any defense or justification for the Mountain Meadows Massacre by the Mormon church shows that they are not even close to christianity!

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#20 Dec 8, 2008
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
Here is a very well written book on the
Mountain Meadow Massacre that I just finished reading! The author has given the online community complete access to the full Book !
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/meadowsconten ...
I highly encourage everyone to read this book!
I have read a lot about the massacre but was really impressed with this book and learned even more !
(I'm sure some of the mormons will try to claim the book is full of lies! that seems to be their stratagy, but read it and judge for yourself!)
I can hardly wait to read a nice lds blog that explains how the Mountain Meadows Massacre is a figment of my imagination !
Everyone has an opinion. That does not mean they are correct. I have as yet not read direct evidence of Young being behind the MMM. I have read lots od "second hand information" of this is what I know he knows type info but that is it.

I will state that I have inlaws who are related to some of the Mormon men that were part of MMM. These inlaws have their diaries and written corospondences. They wrote and said what they did (in response to attacks on the church afterwards) was of their own decisions and not of something that was told to them to go and do by B. Young.

So believe one thing, you will never read any truth when you read any publication that insinuates or tries to prove B. Young planned the MMM.

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