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Of all religious groups only Jehovah's Witnesses avoid mil service

There are 369 comments on the Groong Armenian News Network story from Apr 9, 2011, titled Of all religious groups only Jehovah's Witnesses avoid mil service. In it, Groong Armenian News Network reports that:

Date : Sat, 9 Apr 2011 19:59:38 PDT Out of all religious groups only Jehovah's Witnesses avoid military service April 5, 2011 - 14:11 AMT 09:11 GMT PanARMENIAN.Net - The head of center of rehabilitation and assistance to the victims of destructive cults, Alexander Amaryan said that out of all religious groups only Jehovah's Witnesses avoid military ...

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AuroraMom

Wayne, IL

#1 Apr 10, 2011
They refuse even "alternative service" but willingly take government handout, freebies and cash.

Hypocrites, and traitors to boot.
JWitness forum

Rueil-malmaison, France

#3 Apr 10, 2011
#QUESTION Do Jehovah's Witnesses do anything for the community?

Yes they run a number of charitable a disaster relief associations, as well as litaracy programs.

LITARACY PROGRAMS

The National Office for Adult Literacy (a department of the Ministry of Education) in Burundi, Central Africa for example, formally recognised the the Witnesses' literacy program awarding four of the program's teachers for "the hard work put into teaching others to read." Similar programs are run in other countries such as Brazil and Mozambique.

Jehovah's Witnesss' bible education work has helped countless millions to discontinue destructive or abusive lifestyles that ultimately put a strain on limited health and mental care facilities.

**Professor Elio Masferrer, researcher at the National School of Anthropology & History commented that the Witnesses help people who "suffer severe family crises, such as rape, family abuse, alcohoism, and drug addiction"

Thanks to the Jehovah's Witness programs many individuals have also successfully stopped abusing alcohol, drugs and ceased illegal activities that damage local and national communities such as gang warfare, prostitution and white collar crime.

DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAMS

Jehovah's Witnesses have also been recognised for their humanitarian work. Their charitable association "Aid Afrique" for example has sent food, clothing, and medical supplies to countries such as Congo and more recently Jehovah's Witnesses were amongst the first to provide practical help to the Haitian people following the devastating earthquake in that region.
AuroraMom

Wayne, IL

#4 Apr 10, 2011
What BS.
That is the best you can come up with.

Jehovah's Witnesses run no charities and do no humanitarian work.

Reading the uneducated only WBTS propaganda, is not educating, it is part of the brainwashing of a cult.

Whoop dee doo.

Real charitable works do not include that members must sign over their lives to the WBTS, to "receive" the charity.

They do however accept any and all government handouts, tax breaks, freebies and cash.
They are every part "of the world" when it comes to them getting something, they just refuse to give back.
Alex

Brantford, Canada

#5 Apr 10, 2011
I notice that none of that diatribe was backed up with any proof. Why am I not shocked? How about showing me a picture from a newspaper that show's a jw lifting a finger to help a non jw out, or a cancelled check would do. How about a sign that says this hospital, school, soup kitchen was donated by the wt?

Witnesses help people who "suffer severe family crises

Telling them to join and raise a family of jw's and then start thinking for themselves, and then they'll see what a real family crisis doesn't count
Alex

Brantford, Canada

#6 Apr 10, 2011
AuroraMom wrote:
What BS.
That is the best you can come up with.
Jehovah's Witnesses run no charities and do no humanitarian work.
Reading the uneducated only WBTS propaganda, is not educating, it is part of the brainwashing of a cult.
Whoop dee doo.
Real charitable works do not include that members must sign over their lives to the WBTS, to "receive" the charity.
They do however accept any and all government handouts, tax breaks, freebies and cash.
They are every part "of the world" when it comes to them getting something, they just refuse to give back.
You forgot christmas bonuses. Those are a favorite of jw's
JWitness forum

Rueil-malmaison, France

#7 Apr 10, 2011
Do Jehovah's Witnesses accept to do ALTERNATIVE service?

Jehovah's Witnesses accept to perform alternative CIVILIAN community service but will not accept non-combative alternatives that are part of part of military training programs or alternatives that, would cause them to compromise their Christian neutrality.

The terms of alternative service* varies from country to country; for example in Thaiwan, conscientious objectors who prefer a government-supervised term of nonmilitary work instead of going to prison can indicate that by filling out an application, under that arrangement, those who spend the 33 months doing this type of alternative service will have the weekends and apparently most evenings free, allowing them to participate in spiritual activities. This is acceptable to Jehovah's witnesses (see JW Yearbood 2001 p.55)

*Some countries have no alternatives to military service and Jehovah's Witnesses are subject to prison terms for their neutral stand, for example to date, the Korean National Assembly has not considered any bill on alternative service and Jehovah's Witnesses are awaiting decisions from the Human Rights Committee of the United Nations on this matter.
AuroraMom

Wayne, IL

#8 Apr 10, 2011
Alex wrote:
<quoted text>
You forgot christmas bonuses. Those are a favorite of jw's
Yup, and while children cannot participate in any holiday celebrations, Jehovah's Witness adults not only take the bonus, they take the holiday pay!!!
Hypocrites.
That is why they are looked on by disgust by their fellow workers and basically the world.
They only fool each other.
AuroraMom

Wayne, IL

#9 Apr 10, 2011
Alex wrote:
I notice that none of that diatribe was backed up with any proof. Why am I not shocked? How about showing me a picture from a newspaper that show's a jw lifting a finger to help a non jw out, or a cancelled check would do. How about a sign that says this hospital, school, soup kitchen was donated by the wt?
Witnesses help people who "suffer severe family crises
Telling them to join and raise a family of jw's and then start thinking for themselves, and then they'll see what a real family crisis doesn't count
You can cue the crickets!
Jehovah's Witnesses are basically forbidden from giving any money or time to charities or do any charitable works.
The WBTS is running a full on controlling cult, and ALL time and money must go the cult leaders and no one else, no matter how needy.
What, this is not what Jesus preached???
LOL
JWitness forum

Rueil-malmaison, France

#10 Apr 10, 2011
Alex wrote:
How about showing me a picture
PICTURES & ARTICLES & EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY

HAITI
Jehovah’s Witnesses’ relief efforts in Haiti highlight international unity
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gdOTlbLT2A0/0.jpg
http://www.jw-media.org/images/hti/hti2010011...

Eyewitness Reports (scroll down)
http://mikeandagnes.multiply.com/journal
http://a.thomazeau.org/node/51

Slideshows and Pictures (133)
http://www.aleccorday.com/blog/...

**warning: graphic pictures**
http://haiti-earthquake-jehovahs-witnesses.bl...

AID AFRIQUE
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6Vw-62YnWMs/TIC7U-I...
AuroraMom

Wayne, IL

#11 Apr 10, 2011
Why aren't you instead defending the WBTS tenet of no charity??
You are a brainwashed robot.

I was not even allowed to go to a nursing home and help the elderly.

Who do you think you are kidding??
True witness

Claremore, OK

#12 Apr 10, 2011
Jehovah's witnesses do not have to provide any proof that they are generous, they are not like the world who blow their own horn for their charitable works.

Jehovah's witnesses do not go to war or take alternative service of war, they imitate Jesus and do not take up the sword or fight anyone, they are peaceable in imitation of Jesus, loving their fellow man, no matter what race or religion.

Being neutral today in matters of politics is because our King Jesus is already ruling over his subjects in God's heavenly kingdom.

The government we give our allegence to is heavenly not earthly, our obedience to love everyone is evidence of our being peaceful with all men. Matthew 22:39
Alex

Brantford, Canada

#13 Apr 10, 2011
Is this what you do? Do you take my comments, cut them up until it looks like I'm asking a simpleton question that allows you to doctor your reply? That's pathetic. I asked for pictures from a newspaper or a reporting agency. Instead, I get jw media. You lose, and you can't count the time it took you to link those pathetic jw press releases

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#14 Apr 10, 2011
JWitness forum wrote:
#QUESTION Do Jehovah's Witnesses do anything for the community?

Yes they run a number of charitable a disaster relief associations, as well as litaracy programs.

LITARACY PROGRAMS

The National Office for Adult Literacy (a department of the Ministry of Education) in Burundi, Central Africa for example, formally recognised the the Witnesses' literacy program awarding four of the program's teachers for "the hard work put into teaching others to read." Similar programs are run in other countries such as Brazil and Mozambique.

Jehovah's Witnesss' bible education work has helped countless millions to discontinue destructive or abusive lifestyles that ultimately put a strain on limited health and mental care facilities.

**Professor Elio Masferrer, researcher at the National School of Anthropology & History commented that the Witnesses help people who "suffer severe family crises, such as rape, family abuse, alcohoism, and drug addiction"

Thanks to the Jehovah's Witness programs many individuals have also successfully stopped abusing alcohol, drugs and ceased illegal activities that damage local and national communities such as gang warfare, prostitution and white collar crime.

DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAMS

Jehovah's Witnesses have also been recognised for their humanitarian work. Their charitable association "Aid Afrique" for example has sent food, clothing, and medical supplies to countries such as Congo and more recently Jehovah's Witnesses were amongst the first to provide practical help to the Haitian people following the devastating earthquake in that region.
They were the first to give aide to witnesses.
AuroraMom

Wayne, IL

#15 Apr 10, 2011
True witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses do not have to provide any proof that they are generous, they are not like the world who blow their own horn for their charitable works.
ROTFLMAO!!!
Every other day Jehovah's Witnesses are "blowing" their own horn, about building cult meeting halls for free for the already wealthy WBTS!!
They are the ones contacting the media to brag about this, which is in no way worthy of being news.

They have nothing else to "blow" about!!
Mardana

Sacramento, CA

#16 Apr 10, 2011
True witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses do not have to provide any proof that they are generous,

they are not like the world who blow their own horn for their charitable works.
.
You wrote :
"they are not like the world who blow their own horn for their charitable works"
==========

*Smile*
You are joking, right?

The times when JWs have done charitable works [usually for other JWs], they write articles about it in their magazines......and I mean the magazines that are distributed to the public.

That is "blowing their own horn" very publicly, wouldn't you say?

.
fada oh fada

Medinah, IL

#17 Apr 10, 2011
AuroraMom wrote:
They refuse even "alternative service" but willingly take government handout, freebies and cash.
Hypocrites, and traitors to boot.
Kind of like when they condemed the United Nation for being the one world order of satan, Yet they were involved with the U.N. for ten years until it was made public. Then they quickly with drew and said they just wanted to use their "Public" libarary which was open to the "Public"

Since: Feb 07

RI

#18 Apr 10, 2011
Mardana wrote:
<quoted text>
.
You wrote :
"they are not like the world who blow their own horn for their charitable works"
==========
*Smile*
You are joking, right?
The times when JWs have done charitable works [usually for other JWs], they write articles about it in their magazines......and I mean the magazines that are distributed to the public.
That is "blowing their own horn" very publicly, wouldn't you say?
.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Anything of a charitable nature that is done--usually by individual JWs or individual congregations, but not by the Watchtower Society--is trumpeted in the literature and from the platform, and, if they can set it up, they trumpet their actions to any media outlet that will give them a hearing.

JWs have ALWAYS boasted about what they do, as insignificant as it is.
AuroraMom

Plainfield, IL

#19 Apr 10, 2011
RedhorseWoman wrote:
<quoted text>
This is exactly what I was thinking. Anything of a charitable nature that is done--usually by individual JWs or individual congregations, but not by the Watchtower Society--is trumpeted in the literature and from the platform, and, if they can set it up, they trumpet their actions to any media outlet that will give them a hearing.
JWs have ALWAYS boasted about what they do, as insignificant as it is.
I found that if another JW even did something charitable for ONLY another JW (of course), they had many string attached, and they made sure the entire congregation was made aware.

Not exactly charity, by anyone's definition.
JWitness forum

Rueil-malmaison, France

#20 Apr 11, 2011
WHY DOESN'T THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEAR ABOUT JEHOVAH'S WITNESS DISASTER RELIEF OPERATIONS?

These operations are reported in Jehovah's Witness literature, which is widely distributed and occassionally by local media teams. National and international news agencies however, rarely chose to focus on this aspect of our work and indeed victims of disasters are usually surprised to see how efficient Jehovah's Witnesses disaster and construction teams are and how extensive our programs are.

Why do Jehovah's Witneses REPORT what they do in their literature and on their Official media site? Isn't publicising this information "unchristian"?

Critics have suggsted that Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong to report their charity work. Is this reasonable? Most Church run charities have some system of reporting their activies. This is for two main reasons

a) The funds they are using have been contributed. Those that contribute their money have a right to know how resources are being used. While complete and utter secrecy about what Jehovah's Witnesses do with the millions of dollars worth of donations their members give may be one policy, such a way of proceding would no doubt encourage adverse criticism.

b) Members want to hear about the welfare of their spiritual brothers and sisters. As soon as a disaster strikes, people obviously try and contact their family members, they want to know what if anything they can do and how they are being helped. It is no different for the Jehovah's Witnesses extended "family of believers" (see Gal 6:10) and reporting via the Jehovah's Witnesses Website and the pages of their religious journals (many Witnesses in Africa, South America and Asia do not have access to a computer) is the most efficient way of communicating this information.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not seek the help of international celebrities to publicise their work, nor do they contact national and international news agencies and try and pressure them to make our work more known in this area. Their members rarely, if ever mention such programs when they speak to their neighbours about the good news. No advertisement are run on tv or radio... in short, rather than "blowing their own trumpets" (attempting to attract undue attention to what they do in this area) Jehovah's Witnesse recognise their primary work is to "Advertise the KING and his KINGDOM" and remain discrete as to their charity, disaster and contruction programs.

#QUESTION: Are Jehovah's Witnesses banned from giving to non-witness Charities?

No, there has been no organisational directive published by the Watchtower Society, banning Jehovah's Witnesses from contributing to charities. Each individual Witnesses is free to contribute to non-witness charities if and when they chose. This is a personal desision and Jehovah's Witnesses rarely feel it is suitable to advertise their charitable contributions.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#21 Apr 11, 2011
JWitness forum wrote:
WHY DOESN'T THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEAR ABOUT JEHOVAH'S WITNESS DISASTER RELIEF OPERATIONS?

These operations are reported in Jehovah's Witness literature, which is widely distributed and occassionally by local media teams. National and international news agencies however, rarely chose to focus on this aspect of our work and indeed victims of disasters are usually surprised to see how efficient Jehovah's Witnesses disaster and construction teams are and how extensive our programs are.

Why do Jehovah's Witneses REPORT what they do in their literature and on their Official media site? Isn't publicising this information "unchristian"?

Critics have suggsted that Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong to report their charity work. Is this reasonable? Most Church run charities have some system of reporting their activies. This is for two main reasons

a) The funds they are using have been contributed. Those that contribute their money have a right to know how resources are being used. While complete and utter secrecy about what Jehovah's Witnesses do with the millions of dollars worth of donations their members give may be one policy, such a way of proceding would no doubt encourage adverse criticism.

b) Members want to hear about the welfare of their spiritual brothers and sisters. As soon as a disaster strikes, people obviously try and contact their family members, they want to know what if anything they can do and how they are being helped. It is no different for the Jehovah's Witnesses extended "family of believers" (see Gal 6:10) and reporting via the Jehovah's Witnesses Website and the pages of their religious journals (many Witnesses in Africa, South America and Asia do not have access to a computer) is the most efficient way of communicating this information.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not seek the help of international celebrities to publicise their work, nor do they contact national and international news agencies and try and pressure them to make our work more known in this area. Their members rarely, if ever mention such programs when they speak to their neighbours about the good news. No advertisement are run on tv or radio... in short, rather than "blowing their own trumpets" (attempting to attract undue attention to what they do in this area) Jehovah's Witnesse recognise their primary work is to "Advertise the KING and his KINGDOM" and remain discrete as to their charity, disaster and contruction programs.

#QUESTION: Are Jehovah's Witnesses banned from giving to non-witness Charities?

No, there has been no organisational directive published by the Watchtower Society, banning Jehovah's Witnesses from contributing to charities. Each individual Witnesses is free to contribute to non-witness charities if and when they chose. This is a personal desision and Jehovah's Witnesses rarely feel it is suitable to advertise their charitable contributions.
Not banned just reminded that the b and s are the flock that they are to help.

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