Armenia: Will Alternative Service Ref...

Armenia: Will Alternative Service Reform Keep Jehovah's Witnesses Out of Jail?

There are 11 comments on the eurasianet.org story from Mar 19, 2013, titled Armenia: Will Alternative Service Reform Keep Jehovah's Witnesses Out of Jail?. In it, eurasianet.org reports that:

Members of the Jehovah's Witnesses, who refused to perform alternative service under the supervision of military personnel on the grounds of their religious beliefs, serve their prison sentences at the Erebuni penitentiary in Yerevan in July 2008.

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#1 Mar 19, 2013
The Jw's have oversteped their bounds on this ..The bible says not to kill.. That it.. To refuse to clean streets because the military are the supervisors.. Is going beyond God's command..
.and not showing respect for the Government.. WHICH.. God..has also stipulated that they do..

Griffco

Plymouth, MA

#2 Mar 20, 2013
Sorry to inform you that you haven't a clue on why they don't support any countries military. It's about "Being NO part of the World"...does that mean anything to you?
Griffco

Plymouth, MA

#3 Mar 20, 2013
O bye the way, i'am not a J W. But i am a bible educator who studies all Christian based ideology's...And i understand WHY they don't compromise their religious beliefs. Cult or no cult, to me, is irrelevant. They are a recognized Christian organization who unlike most religious people in our world they are a conscientious people who care for their neighbors and consider them doomed if they don't become disciples of Christ by under going a water baptism and worshiping the God & Father of Jesus,the Christ of God the Father.[Read John 20:17]

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#4 Mar 20, 2013
Griffco wrote:
O bye the way, i'am not a J W. But i am a bible educator who studies all Christian based ideology's...And i understand WHY they don't compromise their religious beliefs. Cult or no cult, to me, is irrelevant. They are a recognized Christian organization who unlike most religious people in our world they are a conscientious people who care for their neighbors and consider them doomed if they don't become disciples of Christ by under going a water baptism and worshiping the God & Father of Jesus,the Christ of God the Father.[Read John 20:17]
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. Woopie! Tell me ..now that you've come on and spit your venom.. Just what compromise.. is cleaning streets... The object is not to be killing anyone.. AND sweeping a street..has no killing in it.. Fact is they push beyond what the bible says.. Raise them selfs up to a higher level.. and listen to MEN.. So instead of humbly taking the chore given them... they have to make a public spectical of themself ..by thinking that manual labor is beneath them.. And to get more notoriety..they go to prison..so that their self imposed plight can sorta lead credience to the words that ..THEY.. are persecuted.. Oyi!
Griffco

Plymouth, MA

#5 Mar 20, 2013
Maravilla wrote:
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. Woopie! Tell me ..now that you've come on and spit your venom.. Just what compromise.. is cleaning streets... The object is not to be killing anyone.. AND sweeping a street..has no killing in it.. Fact is they push beyond what the bible says.. Raise them selfs up to a higher level.. and listen to MEN.. So instead of humbly taking the chore given them... they have to make a public spectical of themself ..by thinking that manual labor is beneath them.. And to get more notoriety..they go to prison..so that their self imposed plight can sorta lead credience to the words that ..THEY.. are persecuted.. Oyi!


@ Maravilla>>>
We don't know each other but what i read is "Out of your heart the mouth will speak"..Are you a Christian?..Why are you filled with sarcastic criticism? Have you a personal venditer against this people? If our Almighty God allows them to continue in their form of worship, shouldn't you also? Have any J W hurt you because of the way they believe in? My advise to you is to talerent and at peace with your self [ie] be Christ like] Don't allow your sinful body corrupt your personality for the Christ..Stay neutral in all your affairs under the sun.[Don't feed the flames of discontent]

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#6 Mar 20, 2013
Griffco wrote:
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@ Maravilla>>>
We don't know each other but what i read is "Out of your heart the mouth will speak"..Are you a Christian?..Why are you filled with sarcastic criticism? Have you a personal venditer against this people? If our Almighty God allows them to continue in their form of worship, shouldn't you also? Have any J W hurt you because of the way they believe in? My advise to you is to talerent and at peace with your self [ie] be Christ like] Don't allow your sinful body corrupt your personality for the Christ..Stay neutral in all your affairs under the sun.[Don't feed the flames of discontent]
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. no we don't know each other.. I call a spade a spade.. you said your peace..in your first post.. There is a vast difference..and being faithful to God's command and what many fanatics do to draw attention to themselves.. I am at peace with myself.. Your admonition...Is good..and yet Christ himself pointed out to the Scribes and pharaisees their hypocrisy....

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#7 Mar 20, 2013
Griffco wrote:
O bye the way, i'am not a J W. But i am a bible educator who studies all Christian based ideology's...And i understand WHY they don't compromise their religious beliefs. Cult or no cult, to me, is irrelevant. They are a recognized Christian organization who unlike most religious people in our world they are a conscientious people who care for their neighbors and consider them doomed if they don't become disciples of Christ by under going a water baptism and worshiping the God & Father of Jesus,the Christ of God the Father.[Read John 20:17]
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. Might I ask..what that scripture has to do with your thought process??

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#11 Mar 22, 2013
The WTS.. has forgotten that we were to pay the tribute asked for by the higher Powers... AND they forget that it was GOD that placed them in thier positions... SO! WHO ...do they disobey when they refuse to do the (Non-killing labor )??
.AND the fact was..they were told to do so..so that it would go well with them... In their arrogants they are pushing the envelope .. partly because they are fanatics..and partly for the check marks they put on their persecution calendars..must have them to point to.. to keep the members in line.. to show that they are the ones Christ was speaking of.. Oyi!
Jace

Chesapeake, OH

#12 Mar 23, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
GB every year new light
is mostly deceiving light
at 50 thies,
till 1985 youths JW refused military and any service so called alternative under military command, like make uniforms,buttons, medals,military shoes etc...
today dumb butts GB tracherous leaders with their each 6 month new light and new demands change everything akward,
those overseas early years suffer prison terms because stupidity of GB JW not God command at all
refusing military is refusing completly from everything under military control,
alternative service is new BS making JW more worldly and idiots of 21 century,
even dividing families by their own doctrines is lack of any GODS AGAPE LOVE
Organization of JW in this century one more time proved that they are FAKE AND DOESN'T FOLLOW INFALIABLE GODS WORD BIBLE
This is one oftene reasons I left the org
I had a mentor who went to prison during the
Vietnam war. Once wt flip flopped he was a crashed man
JaceThe

Chesapeake, OH

#13 Mar 23, 2013
Griffco wrote:
...And i understand WHY they don't compromise their religious beliefs.

Cult or no cult, to me, is irrelevant.
Interesting ---irrelevant you say????

Why do you consider it irrelevant to teach millions and have them take this message to billions teaching that it is a sin to take an alternative job

Then you enforce this by excommunication and condemnation of other faith for not agreeing

All to then say God changed his mind and now it's ok to take the same job that 3 weeks ago was a son in the eyes of god

Could you share with the readers why you consider jacking with folks lives in regards to their standing before god as irrelevant ??

Just asking
Justin

Sebastopol, CA

#14 Mar 23, 2013
Griffco wrote:
O bye the way, i'am not a J W. But i am a bible educator who studies all Christian based ideology's...And i understand WHY they don't compromise their religious beliefs. Cult or no cult, to me, is irrelevant. They are a recognized Christian organization who unlike most religious people in our world they are a conscientious people who care for their neighbors and consider them doomed if they don't become disciples of Christ by under going a water baptism and worshiping the God & Father of Jesus,the Christ of God the Father.[Read John 20:17]
You're in deep do do, Griffco. Denying that you are a JW when you actually are one is a very serious sin.

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