Former Jehovah's Witness leaves memorial to family who 'shunned' her

Jul 29, 2014 Full story: Bucks Herald 202

The poignant poster left by Victoria Summers outside the Kingdom Hall in Ashbourne End, Aylesbury, and below, her with her young daughter A former Jehovah's Witness who says she was shunned by her family after leaving the religion has spoken of the loss she feels.

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hMMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#1 Jul 29, 2014
What a great way to commemorate the fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses insist on the destruction of the family unit, and that all devotion only go to their leaders.
We should do this here in the States
Passerby

Houston, TX

#2 Jul 29, 2014
hMMMMMM wrote:
What a great way to commemorate the fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses insist on the destruction of the family unit, and that all devotion only go to their leaders.
We should do this here in the States
Wow! The end of the Watchtower hatred is coming. I am telling you, we need to pray for those satanic worshippers aka the Watchtower.

Since: Jun 09

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#3 Jul 30, 2014
hMMMMMM wrote:
What a great way to commemorate the fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses insist on the destruction of the family unit, and that all devotion only go to their leaders.
We should do this here in the States
So her leaving her husband and committing adultery is ok in your book crazy lady? I think I could almost understand it if it were your husband. Now, take your meds and lay down.

Since: Nov 09

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#4 Jul 30, 2014
How I See It wrote:
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So her leaving her husband and committing adultery is ok in your book crazy lady? I think I could almost understand it if it were your husband. Now, take your meds and lay down.
Where in that article did you see she committed adultery? It does not say that she was divorced or still married, yet you take it upon yourself to say she committed adultery? Not nice. If you find the place where it tells if she were still married and did this, I will apologize to you.

“The proof is in the pudding!”

Since: Aug 09

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#5 Jul 30, 2014
Seems she disowned her family, not the other way around.

"I wrote a letter to my parents to tell them that I didnít recognise their authority."

“The proof is in the pudding!”

Since: Aug 09

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#6 Jul 30, 2014
The Real Karen wrote:
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Where in that article did you see she committed adultery? It does not say that she was divorced or still married, yet you take it upon yourself to say she committed adultery? Not nice. If you find the place where it tells if she were still married and did this, I will apologize to you.
What reason did she have to get a divorce? It doesn't say he committed adultry. So yes, she up and left divorced him, scripturally, and got remarried - adultery.

“The proof is in the pudding!”

Since: Aug 09

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#7 Jul 30, 2014
*unscriptually
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#8 Jul 30, 2014
I think it's wonderful that ex witnesses can find comfort with fellow ex witnesses, this way you are united in your hate, just what you need to keep you happy.

No one forces anyone to get baptized, and even if they did, you are still master of your own decisions, your conduct shows you love Jehovah or not, that is why Jesus said remove the wicked man among you.

Stop being a crybaby, and face reality, get your act together or stay outside, where you wanted to be, and you forfeited everlasting life.

Hebrews 10:26

Since: Nov 09

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#9 Jul 30, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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What reason did she have to get a divorce? It doesn't say he committed adultry. So yes, she up and left divorced him, scripturally, and got remarried - adultery.
You have no idea what took place, maybe he remarried before she did, maybe he had an affair before she got married again. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT TOOK PLACE. So to just take it for granted that SHE did all the wrong is not right.

Since: Nov 09

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#10 Jul 30, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
I think it's wonderful that ex witnesses can find comfort with fellow ex witnesses, this way you are united in your hate, just what you need to keep you happy.
No one forces anyone to get baptized, and even if they did, you are still master of your own decisions, your conduct shows you love Jehovah or not, that is why Jesus said remove the wicked man among you.
Stop being a crybaby, and face reality, get your act together or stay outside, where you wanted to be, and you forfeited everlasting life.
Hebrews 10:26
United in hate, sorry my dear but that comes from you, not me. I love JWs that is why I am trying so hard to help you see that your GB aka F&DS is lying to you about so many things, but you, just like the rest of them, keep your head buried in the sand. You have been ask to show me proof of things they teach you, but you have yet to do that. Your only reason here is to stir the pot. You have changed just like the rest of them, you have turned ugly and evil with your words of hatred. I believe Jesus told us to love our neighbors, but you believe that means only other JWs right?

MY decisions was made to leave a religion that taught me lies about Jesus Christ, I found HIM, Jesus, not a religion, not a organization and most definitely not men who claim to be part of my salvation.

I didn't forfeit my everlasting life as you say, but have now sealed my eternal salvation because of giving my life to Jesus instead of to a religion. But you on the other hand, unless you give your life to Jesus and repent of your sins, and live as HE wants you to live, have forfeited your life. You will most certainly cry when you see Jesus returning on the clouds.

I pray every night for all of those who do not know Jesus for who he is, that includes you and every other JW alive today. Do you pray for me and those who you believe are lost? I know you will not answer, and that's okay.

Since: Jun 09

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#11 Jul 30, 2014
The Real Karen wrote:
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Where in that article did you see she committed adultery? It does not say that she was divorced or still married, yet you take it upon yourself to say she committed adultery? Not nice. If you find the place where it tells if she were still married and did this, I will apologize to you.
I defer to post #6 stupid.

Since: Jun 09

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#12 Jul 30, 2014
The Real Karen wrote:
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United in hate, sorry my dear but that comes from you, not me. I love JWs that is why I am trying so hard to help you see that your GB aka F&DS is lying to you about so many things, but you, just like the rest of them, keep your head buried in the sand. You have been ask to show me proof of things they teach you, but you have yet to do that. Your only reason here is to stir the pot. You have changed just like the rest of them, you have turned ugly and evil with your words of hatred. I believe Jesus told us to love our neighbors, but you believe that means only other JWs right?
MY decisions was made to leave a religion that taught me lies about Jesus Christ, I found HIM, Jesus, not a religion, not a organization and most definitely not men who claim to be part of my salvation.
I didn't forfeit my everlasting life as you say, but have now sealed my eternal salvation because of giving my life to Jesus instead of to a religion. But you on the other hand, unless you give your life to Jesus and repent of your sins, and live as HE wants you to live, have forfeited your life. You will most certainly cry when you see Jesus returning on the clouds.
I pray every night for all of those who do not know Jesus for who he is, that includes you and every other JW alive today. Do you pray for me and those who you believe are lost? I know you will not answer, and that's okay.
Good thing the Israelites didn't feel about Moses the way you feel about the Governing a Body. Guess you think Jehovah no longer uses men to direct his people huh? You go with your bad self, idiot.
Marc

United States

#14 Jul 30, 2014
Are the individuals condemning Ms. Summers really JW's? If so, you should really reflect on your reactions and if they are drawing people to Jehovah or pushing them away because some of the comments made are decidedly unchristian, whether you agree with the views of others or not. Comments such as "take your meds and lay down" or "You go with your bad self, idiot" are not what I would call words "seasoned with salt".
And please don't try to use Jesus condemning words to the Pharisees as a basis for putting down others as he spoke from a position of God given authority as the rightful judge. His censure was never condescending or made in a haughty manner. Condescendingly criticizing others can be just as sinful in God's eyes as the adultery you accuse Ms. Summers of.
Why not simply try to understand that regardless of the decisions made its painful for everyone involved and be a bit empathetic? Geez.

Since: Jun 09

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#15 Jul 30, 2014
Marc wrote:
Are the individuals condemning Ms. Summers really JW's? If so, you should really reflect on your reactions and if they are drawing people to Jehovah or pushing them away because some of the comments made are decidedly unchristian, whether you agree with the views of others or not. Comments such as "take your meds and lay down" or "You go with your bad self, idiot" are not what I would call words "seasoned with salt".
And please don't try to use Jesus condemning words to the Pharisees as a basis for putting down others as he spoke from a position of God given authority as the rightful judge. His censure was never condescending or made in a haughty manner. Condescendingly criticizing others can be just as sinful in God's eyes as the adultery you accuse Ms. Summers of.
Why not simply try to understand that regardless of the decisions made its painful for everyone involved and be a bit empathetic? Geez.
Sounds like you agree with this apostate, blow it out your ear.

Since: Sep 13

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#16 Jul 30, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
Seems she disowned her family, not the other way around.
"I wrote a letter to my parents to tell them that I didnít recognise their authority."
She was over 35 years old.

Since: Sep 13

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#17 Jul 30, 2014
Duh-boy wrote:
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What reason did she have to get a divorce? It doesn't say he committed adultry. So yes, she up and left divorced him, scripturally, and got remarried - adultery.
Like you do with scripture, you filled in a lot of blanks with your own agenda, your own story. You presume a LOT. Its in what JWs claim the Bible says, it is in what JWs assume about former JWs.

With no facts or information, you assumed, but in this case, the only ass is you.
Passerby

Dallas, TX

#18 Jul 30, 2014
How I See It wrote:
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Good thing the Israelites didn't feel about Moses the way you feel about the Governing a Body. Guess you think Jehovah no longer uses men to direct his people huh? You go with your bad self, idiot.
Wow! A JW zombie is calling another person 'idiot'. What's next?

Since: Sep 13

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#19 Jul 30, 2014
How I See It wrote:
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Good thing the Israelites didn't feel about Moses the way you feel about the Governing a Body. Guess you think Jehovah no longer uses men to direct his people huh? You go with your bad self, idiot.
Moses was called by God and directed by God. The WT claims to be a prophet and denies it in the same breath. They are NOT Moses or prophets or anything remotely like a biblically called prophet. They are the false prophets that Jesus himself warned you about in more than one gospel. WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO JESUS INSTEAD OF FALSE PROPHETS/TEACHERS????

I imagine him at the judgement as JWs are trying to explain even their haughty attitudes and Jesus is shaking his head ruefully that his message was so twisted and measuring perfect justice against mercy. Hope he's in a good mood. The justice might bite you in the butt.
little lamb

Collingwood, Australia

#20 Jul 30, 2014
Covered wrote:
<quoted text> Moses was called by God and directed by God. The WT claims to be a prophet and denies it in the same breath. They are NOT Moses or prophets or anything remotely like a biblically called prophet. They are the false prophets that Jesus himself warned you about in more than one gospel. WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO JESUS INSTEAD OF FALSE PROPHETS/TEACHERS????
I imagine him at the judgement as JWs are trying to explain even their haughty attitudes and Jesus is shaking his head ruefully that his message was so twisted and measuring perfect justice against mercy. Hope he's in a good mood. The justice might bite you in the butt.
Here is Covered telling people who is and who isn't a prophet

As she follows Mohammed as a prophet , leaving Jesus, the Son of God for the false words, of another false prophet

When Hebrews 1 [1] warns us ' that God used to speak in many occasions in many ways by means of prophets, has now at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a SON"

Why her false prophet tells them Jesus isn't the son of God

How far has she fallen as she tries to criticize others..
little lamb

Collingwood, Australia

#21 Jul 30, 2014
Covered wrote:
<quoted text> Moses was called by God and directed by God. The WT claims to be a prophet and denies it in the same breath. They are NOT Moses or prophets or anything remotely like a biblically called prophet. They are the false prophets that Jesus himself warned you about in more than one gospel. WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO JESUS INSTEAD OF FALSE PROPHETS/TEACHERS????
I imagine him at the judgement as JWs are trying to explain even their haughty attitudes and Jesus is shaking his head ruefully that his message was so twisted and measuring perfect justice against mercy. Hope he's in a good mood. The justice might bite you in the butt.
Why don't you LISTEN TO JESUS?

Imagine you a Muslim trying to explain why you believe Jesus isn't the son of God, because a false prophet told you he had a visit from an angel in a cave who told him God doesn't have sons.

Can you imagine Jesus shaking his head at you that his message ' that God loved the world so much he sent his only begotten son,' was so twisted by such a false prophet who was able to deceive you so easily ..

And it wasn't as if you had never known ..but you left Jesus the TRUTH for a lie..shame on you

I don't believe you even know what truth and justice are...you have already been biten in the butt.

John 3 [18] He that exercises FAITH in him, is not to be judged .

He that does not exercise faith has BEEN JUDGED ALREADY , because he has not exercised faith in the name of the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD.'

And remember Mohammed teaches you Jesus is not the son of God.

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