Column: What we believe is what we believe

[KDMensch]

FH Chandler wrote:

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...it's not something I've done.
Troll:...using invasive spyware such as Ninjacloak may also constitute a crime.
Reply: That you imagine Ninja Cloak constitutes, "invasive spyware" would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

If it allows you to enter a website undetected lobotomy face...that is the definition (one of) of "Spyware" and it is likely unlawful as is your behaviour which will likely be your undoing...among other things...

[MixedMedia]

True Christian witness wrote:

What is your reward for being saved?

Why does there have to be a reward?

[borgfree]

True Christian witness wrote:

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The more appropriate question should be how is Jesus different from Jehovah God.
I feel you are a former witness, therefore I will not answer your question.

It ok, we are not speaking anyway, just typing.

Consider this as you think about Jesus:

Colossians 1:16
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

[True Christian witness]

Every loyal and obedient Jehovah's witness has the hope of living forever or eternal life in paradise.

When this earth will be cleaned of all unrighteousness and ungodly people. Jesus said the mild and meek would inherit this earth and peace and happiness is the guarantee for them to enjoy forever.

The animals being tamed and the earth with no pollution forever, a grand hope for all mankind who want to do Almighty God Jehovah's will today.

(Matthew 7:21-23)day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

[Prime]

True Christian witness wrote:

Every loyal and obedient Jehovah's witness has the hope of living forever or eternal life in paradise.
When this earth will be cleaned of all unrighteousness and ungodly people. Jesus said the mild and meek would inherit this earth and peace and happiness is the guarantee for them to enjoy forever.
The animals being tamed and the earth with no pollution forever, a grand hope for all mankind who want to do Almighty God Jehovah's will today.
(Matthew 7:21-23)day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

LOL! Typical, you talk about Jehovah and yet you quote a Scripture about Jesus!

Who do you think you're deceiving?

[borgfree]

True Christian witness wrote:

Every loyal and obedient Jehovah's witness has the hope of living forever or eternal life in paradise.
When this earth will be cleaned of all unrighteousness and ungodly people. Jesus said the mild and meek would inherit this earth and peace and happiness is the guarantee for them to enjoy forever.
The animals being tamed and the earth with no pollution forever, a grand hope for all mankind who want to do Almighty God Jehovah's will today.
(Matthew 7:21-23)day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

I think that you hope for that everlasting paradise on this earth is only a fantasy, one promoted by the Watchtower Society.

This universe is created to go through certain phases. The sun is a giant furnace with limited fuel. Scientists say that one day it will go supernova, scripture agrees with that:

2 Peter 3:6-7

6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

2 Peter 3:10

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

What happens when a star goes supernova?

The Watchtower fantasy world is a phony. Search for the real Christ while there is time. Maybe you will then not fit the scripture you quoted.

[much happier now]

I started reading this thread from the beginning. It appears TPMP started it, but his post was removed, also some other posts of his. I looked around and couldn't find any recent posts of his. Did his nastiness get shut down?

[MixedMedia]

True Christian witness wrote:

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The more appropriate question should be how is Jesus different from Jehovah God.
I feel you are a former witness, therefore I will not answer your question.

Wow, no kidding? Really? Well at least you were honest about it.

[The Real Karen]

True Christian witness wrote:

Every loyal and obedient Jehovah's witness has the hope of living forever or eternal life in paradise.
When this earth will be cleaned of all unrighteousness and ungodly people. Jesus said the mild and meek would inherit this earth and peace and happiness is the guarantee for them to enjoy forever.
The animals being tamed and the earth with no pollution forever, a grand hope for all mankind who want to do Almighty God Jehovah's will today.
(Matthew 7:21-23)day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

What makes you think that the scripture you quoted is not speaking of JW's? There are many who are doing this now and did it then. The Governing body is now saying that they are the F&DS, really think about what this means. They spoke bad of Harold Camping when they did, and do the same things he did. Open your eyes man, see what is happening around you. Don't put your faith and life in the hands of MEN, but put it in the hands of the LORD. when you stand before the Judgment seat of God, any religion or organization or MEN will save you, ONLY how you believed in Jesus Christ and treated others according to his words will save you. As you can see, I love you enough to tell you what you must do to be saved, not what religion you need to belong to according to the bible. Please once again, show me the scripture that says I must be of a certain religion or of any organization on earth to be saved. Please open your eyes to the truth of the bible.

I have the hope of living eternally in a paradise forever as well, and I do it by my life obedience to Jehovah and Jesus.

You never told me what unforgivable sin you believe I have committed. Did you feel you were being meek and humble when you told me that? I am not attacking you, but if you think I did what you said, you really should tell me what you think it was so others can avoid doing the same thing. I have never seen believing in and having Jehovah and Jesus in my life as the unforgivable sin. And if you think its because I felt the Holy Spirit, then please explain to me why that is wrong in your eyes. I would really love to understand your thinking.

[FH Chandler]

KDuntermensch aka Konrad Hennig aka Micky Mouse aka Morty Moose aka Nunyabeez aka KtotheRad aka Kurt aka the multiple personality disordered sockpuppeter wrote:

If it allows you to enter a website undetected lobotomy face...

It actually does not allow you to enter a website, "undetected." It allows you to view a website without transmitting personal information that can be used by the owner of the website to identify you; use of such devices is both common and wise - as well as not in any way illegal, nor inherently unethical - and is only necessary where it concerns individuals like your friend the termite "John Cedars" and websites such as his, JWN, etc., because of the track record of the owners of such sites engaging in the same behavior I've described: unethically using private information exchanged between IP addresses to identify and expose users who view their websites for purposes of harassment and libel. "EvilForce" for example.

Troll:...that is the definition (one of) of "Spyware"

Reply: Actually, spyware refers to software that is transmitted - usually in a way that makes it impossible to detect - from one computer to another for the purpose of allowing otherwise unauthorized access into that computer. Ninja Cloak does no such thing.

Troll:...and it is likely unlawful as is your behaviour which will likely be your undoing...among other things...

Reply: I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times you've accused me of doing something, "unlawful," but I don't need ANY to count the number of times that accusation has been meritorious.

[KDMensch]

FH Chandler wrote:

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It actually does not allow you to enter a website, "undetected." It allows you to view a website without transmitting personal information that can be used by the owner of the website to identify you; use of such devices is both common and wise - as well as not in any way illegal, nor inherently unethical - and is only necessary where it concerns individuals like your friend the termite "John Cedars" and websites such as his, JWN, etc., because of the track record of the owners of such sites engaging in the same behavior I've described: unethically using private information exchanged between IP addresses to identify and expose users who view their websites for purposes of harassment and libel. "EvilForce" for example.
Troll:...that is the definition (one of) of "Spyware"
Reply: Actually, spyware refers to software that is transmitted - usually in a way that makes it impossible to detect - from one computer to another for the purpose of allowing otherwise unauthorized access into that computer. Ninja Cloak does no such thing.
Troll:...and it is likely unlawful as is your behaviour which will likely be your undoing...among other things...
Reply: I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times you've accused me of doing something, "unlawful," but I don't need ANY to count the number of times that accusation has been meritorious.

I'm not the one you will need to argue it with...I'm not the one who will be prosecuting you...

[FH Chandler]

KDuntermensch wrote:

I'm not the one you will need to argue it with...I'm not the one who will be prosecuting you...

I'm not worried about the imaginary people in your head.

[KDMensch]

FH Chandler wrote:

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I'm not worried about the imaginary people in your head.

I would be more concerned about the very real people that you have deluded yourself and the Governing Body has deluded themselves into believing that you are not accountable to...that you are superior to their laws and standards and can do and say as you please with "divine authority and approval" (in your heads) irrespective of who is hurt or killed...simply rape plunder and kill to your own satisfaction without regard to man's law...I would worry about that!

[FH Chandler]

KDunterMensch wrote:

I would be more concerned about the very real people that you have deluded yourself and the Governing Body has deluded themselves into believing that you are not accountable to...

Again, I'm not concerned about - nor do I believe your boogeymen are concerned about - the voices in your head.

[KDMensch]

FH Chandler wrote:

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Again, I'm not concerned about - nor do I believe your boogeymen are concerned about - the voices in your head.

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[Prime]

Hey, where did EE from Oklahoma go?

[True Christian witness]

Prime example of ignorance.