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Oct 30, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Michael Jackson - Jackson Family to Host First Christmas

Full story: ContactMusic.com

MICHAEL JACKSON's family is to hold Christmas celebrations for the first time this year - putting their own religious beliefs aside for the superstar's three children.

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karen

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I wonder if Katherine is really going to celebrate Christmas for the kids? If she does, I wonder if she will be disfellowshipped? We all know she has celebrated birthdays. Since this news came from the sister La Toya, we really have to wonder if her mother really did say this.
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Anyone can say they are a Jehovah's Witness, but that does not make you one. Even being Baptized just gives you the right to be called a Brother or a Sister, legally that is. Being a witness is doing the work Jesus said his followers would be doing in these last days. Besides living your life as witnesses are directed to, by the governing body of the society. If a person does not follow the Scriptural guidelines of the Christian Society, he is not a Jehovah's witness, no matter what he believes.

(Matthew 7:21-23) 21 “Not everyone saying to me,‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.
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I guess that is true, we see how a few here call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses, but their actions here sure speak differently.

One comment you made has me confused, you said....

"Besides living your life as witnesses are directed to, by the governing body of the society"

Shouldn't that be how we are directed by Jehovah and his Son Jesus? You are putting to much importance on the GB.
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karen wrote:
I guess that is true, we see how a few here call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses, but their actions here sure speak differently.
One comment you made has me confused, you said....
"Besides living your life as witnesses are directed to, by the governing body of the society"
Shouldn't that be how we are directed by Jehovah and his Son Jesus? You are putting to much importance on the GB.
It's fanciful to make the comment you just made because you KNOW JWs have NO SAY or freedom to read the scriptures on their own and accept that it is written that Christ said he would request his Father send the Holy Spirit to his followers.

That Holy Spirit helps us understand scripture and keeps Christians from being mislead, and to recognize when others are attempting to mislead them.

The masters of the Watchtower do EXACTLY as the Pharisees, who stationed themselves above their followers AND above the Father, because the Father inspired it to be written that if a spirit comes to you with an inspired expression and claims that it is from HIM,that we are to INVESTIGATE that inspired utterance to see if it's true. The JW masters elevate themselves ABOVE the Father and nullify that command and instead instruct their JW followers to get ALL their interpretations from their watchtower oracle masters INSTEAD!(In doing this they nullify the commandments of the Father!)

A slave who has been TOLD they are free but then is bludgeoned over the head for attempting to leave, is STILL a slave!

The Watchtower likes to write ABOUT giving THEIR slaves freedom to read other literature, but as soon as you do and then use those points you learned in your comments or share them with other JWs--INCLUDING what you might have learned from reading the Bible on your own--they label you an APOSTATE for doing what they CLAIMED you are free to do!

Pure SICKNESS and very Pharisaic!
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The Jackson family will do most anything for money! Don't be surprised at anything they do!! As long as they can make money off their dead son..Michael Jackson..they will! Between Daddy Jackson,Latoya and Jermaine Jackson they will do anything to get their faces in the press and make money.
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Every organization of people are united in a purpose, and each organizations agenda has to
be directed by people who are qualified to take the lead as managers. Since this organization is united world-wide, all of Jehovah's witnesses are united in the one purpose of teaching and warning people of God's will for them, before the end of this world's wicked system, ruled by Satan.
Just because these managers are imperfect, and might not be credited Bible scholars, they are still directed by God's word the Bible, that means God's holy spirit. That word of God, is the only authority Jehovah's witnesses accept as from God. These men have never taken the place of Jesus, they have only taught the words of Jesus. I am free to read or say anything I want to, listen to anything I want to, watch anything I want to, play anything I want to, it is my Bible trained conscience that directs me as to what is acceptable to the one true God, Almighty God Jehovah, therefore it is my conscience that lets me know whatever I do, I have to do to the glory of God, as Jesus did. It most certainly not easy to be a true Christian, but over seven million of us do rely on God to help us do the right thing, no the true Christian thing. Every Baptized witness knows exactly what he needs to do to be acceptable to God, and Jesus. The governing body, the directors of this huge crowd of people are also united in keeping this people spiritually acceptable, that means we have to have our minds focused on our own agenda as true Christians, living in this world full of temptations to satisfy the flesh. What we read and study to help us spiritually, is also available to the public, at no charge, the Watchtower and Awake magazines are offered to people to help them, not decieve them.
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Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to celebrate Christmas, birthdays, Easter, Thanksgiving, or any other holidays, claiming they all have pagan roots.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to salute the flag of any nation, recite the pledge of allegiance, stand for or sing the national anthem, run for public office, vote, or serve in the armed forces.
Joe Jackson might celebrate Christmas since he is not religious. Some of the Jackson family are muslim. They don't celebrate Christmas either.
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Martha prove they are chosen by Jehovah. When did he choose them and what is the proof?

You are not free to read anything you want, if you were caught with a copy of Ray Franz Crisis of Conscieous you would be brought the Elders and talked to, you would be told to get rid of the book. Is that freedom to read what you want? If you were found to be watching a lot of R rated movies, you would be talked to about it and ask not to do it anymore. If you were listening to Rap or Heavy Metal music, you would be ask to not do it anymore. If you were wearing dresses a little above the knee and showing what they thought was to much skin, yo uwould be ask not to do it anymore. If your husband was wearing a beard, he would be ask to shave it off if he wanted to be part of the KHs doings. If they knew you were coming here speaking to Dfed, Daed, and apostates, you would be told not to do it anymore. Show me where the freedom is. They run your life Martha, not Jehovah or Jesus, the GB does. You are placing them as your lord and master, when Jehovah and Jesus should be the only ones you allow to be. Follow Jehovah and his Son allow them to tell you what to do . Why do you need the GB to tell you how to live your life morally when you have the bible that was given to us by Jehovah and his Son?

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This is gonna be the weirdest Christmas ever. :(
columbo agnostic

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tim wrote:
Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to celebrate Christmas, birthdays, Easter, Thanksgiving, or any other holidays, claiming they all have pagan roots.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to salute the flag of any nation, recite the pledge of allegiance, stand for or sing the national anthem, run for public office, vote, or serve in the armed forces.
Joe Jackson might celebrate Christmas since he is not religious. Some of the Jackson family are muslim. They don't celebrate Christmas either.
Whats even funnier is that jw's dont realize that all religions have pagan roots. So they're going against themselves. Thats odd. UUUMMM
Martha

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You still don't get it, we don't do those things because it is not the true Christian thing to do, if Jesus were on earth today, he wouldn't do them either. We do things that makes God happy, and stop doing things that we know would not make him happy with us. We strive to do God's will, not ours, Jesus is our example on how to live no part of the world, but in the world

(Philippians 4:8-9) whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things. 9 The things that YOU learned as well as accepted and heard and saw in connection with me, practice these; and the God of peace will be with you.
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What makes you think any of Jehovah's witnesses are hand picked by God or are chosen by God to do his will on earth. Especially the governing body? Did someone tell you that? There are no Jehovah's witnesses that are that special to be hand picked by God to work for him. Every witness had to learn from the Bible, to be taught what God's word is saying, just so happens that the only teachers who are telling the truth are the witnesses. People who are dedicated to God to do what the Bible says to do, and just so happens that this people are blessed in many ways by Almighty God Jehovah, given the evidence to show this world that he is still blessing them, even tho we are sinful and make terrible mistakes, we have the blood of Jesus to be forgiven, and start over again. Do not think or believe Jehovah's witnesses are in any way forced to serve Jehovah, by Jehovah, or Jesus, or the governing body, we are not. It is our love for God, and love for Jesus that keeps us enduring in this world, as his witnesses. We try to show a true love for our fellowman by going door to door to warn them, and help them see what people have to do to be acceptable to God. We never put any pressure on people to listen to us, or force our beliefs on others, I have four kids that will testify different to that, but they made their own choices at eighteen years old. Everyone is given free will to choose what God they will serve.
columbo agnostic

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Martha wrote:
You still don't get it, we don't do those things because it is not the true Christian thing to do, if Jesus were on earth today, he wouldn't do them either. We do things that makes God happy, and stop doing things that we know would not make him happy with us. We strive to do God's will, not ours, Jesus is our example on how to live no part of the world, but in the world
(Philippians 4:8-9) whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things. 9 The things that YOU learned as well as accepted and heard and saw in connection with me, practice these; and the God of peace will be with you.
UUUMMM Martha, If jesus were here today he would condem the wt org for scamming billions of dollars from its followers and the innocent public and not using it to help the poor. plus all the thousands of people the wt has killed with the no organ transplant rule and no blood rule. Not to mention the shunning rule.Martha the wt org is not jesus approved like the wt has brain washed you into believing. Please do some research in the wt's past. You'll figure it out. GOOD LUCK.
columbo agnostic

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karen wrote:
I wonder if Katherine is really going to celebrate Christmas for the kids? If she does, I wonder if she will be disfellowshipped? We all know she has celebrated birthdays. Since this news came from the sister La Toya, we really have to wonder if her mother really did say this.
Im sure if old kathy drops a big old check made out to the Gb the wt org would look the other way when it comes to christmass and birthdays. They want the green!!!
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Martha wrote:
You still don't get it, we don't do those things because it is not the true Christian thing to do, if Jesus were on earth today, he wouldn't do them either. We do things that makes God happy, and stop doing things that we know would not make him happy with us. We strive to do God's will, not ours, Jesus is our example on how to live no part of the world, but in the world
(Philippians 4:8-9) whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things. 9 The things that YOU learned as well as accepted and heard and saw in connection with me, practice these; and the God of peace will be with you.
No Martha, you dont get it, why would Jesus say it was wrong for a person to read a book just because some men said he was an apostate? Ray Franz is not a bad man, he is a man who saw a wrong and was trying to show the others where it was wrong. They kicked him out seeing him as an apostate, but changed the very thing he was trying to show them many years later. And what about speaking to those who have been DFed, DAed, an apostates. It seems that most of you here seem to think that is just fine to go against the GB wished on, but nothing else? They tell other people of other faiths it is okay to examine your faith and even to change, but you allow a person who is a JW to do it and change their faith, and you all treat them horribly.

What we should not do it allow MEN to control our lives.

9 The things that YOU learned as well as accepted and heard and saw in connection with me, practice these; and the God of peace will be with you.

The above scripture is a very good one that all of the make believe witnesses on here should read.
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columbo agnostic wrote:
<quoted text> Whats even funnier is that jw's dont realize that all religions have pagan roots. So they're going against themselves. Thats odd. UUUMMM
You are odd UUUMMM! Get back in your cage...Knuckle Dragger!....Were you the first one in your family to be born without a tail? UUUMMM?

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Martha wrote:
You still don't get it, we don't do those things because it is not the true Christian thing to do, if Jesus were on earth today, he wouldn't do them either.
If Jesus was on earth, he would call t the JWs false prophets and a cult too!
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What makes you think any of Jehovah's witnesses are hand picked by God or are chosen by God to do his will on earth. Especially the governing body? Did someone tell you that? There are no Jehovah's witnesses that are that special to be hand picked by God to work for him.
The F&DS was chosen, or so they say they were to serve over all the witnesses in the world.
"Well, might the term 'faithful and discreet slave' apply in a general sense to each individual Christian? It is true that all Christians must be faithful and discreet; however, Jesus clearly had something more in mind when he spoke of 'the faithful and discreet slave.' How do we know that? Because he said that the 'master on arriving' would appoint the slave 'over all his belongings.' How could each individual Christian be placed over everything - over 'all' of the Lord's belongings? Impossible! The only reasonable conclusion, then, is that Jesus was referring to a group of Christians as 'the faithful and discreet slave.' Can there be such a thing as a composite slave? Yes. Seven hundred years before Christ, Jehovah referred to the entire nation of Israel as 'my witnesses' and 'my servant whom I have chosen.'" - The Watchtower, March 1 2004, p.9.
"The fact is, many things are needed to be a real Christian....a Christian has to recognize the AUTHORITY of the "faithful and discreet slave." (The Watchtower, October 1, 1991, pg. 20).
AWAKE!(October 8, 1991, pg. 13), we read the following: "Thus, we are enlightened by God's answers to present-day problems, answers that reveal where we are in the stream of time and how we can successfully plan for the future. Those answers come to us through the channel of "the faithful and discreet anointed slave" class, WHICH USES THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY AS ITS PUBLISHING AGENCY."
"It is unlikely that someone who simply reads the Bible WITHOUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF DIVINELY PROVIDED AIDS could discern the light. That is why Jehovah God has provided "the faithful and discreet slave", foretold at Matthew 24:45-47. Today, that "slave" is represented by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses." (The Watchtower, May 1, 1992, pg. 31).
So are you telling me that according to you, Jehovah did not pick anyone to rule over you? Wasn't the 144,000 handpicked to be in heaven and help rule with Jehovah?
Are Jehovahs witnesses telling the truth when they say they do not take blood when in fact they take almost every bit of it, or when they now allow it to be recirculated back into their systems, where is the difference in that and a blood tranfusion?
Are Jehovahs witnesses telling you the truth when they say that it is okay for you to examine your faith and change, unless you are a witness then if you do examine it and find you wish to change, you are punished for it? Where is that being okay?
Do they tell you once you get in, they will love you with all they have, but once you try to leave you are treated like a person with a disease? They will call you names and say every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie?
Do you tell those who you knock on their door that everyone you knew before becoming a witness is now considered bad association and you should break all ties with you?
I could go on and on with this, but I think you see what I am saying.
Jehovahs witnesses do have some truths, but on others they are completely wrong. Do yourself a favor, and read your bible alone, read what Jehovah and his Son meant for you to read. Read that your salvation comes from only them, no organization, no men, no one else but them.
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No GodNeeded wrote:
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If Jesus was on earth, he would call t the JWs false prophets and a cult too!
What would he call you?Your living proof of the old saying Charisma comes but once a year .....go elsewhere and bore someone else! Ears?
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<quoted text>You are odd UUUMMM! Get back in your cage...Knuckle Dragger!....Were you the first one in your family to be born without a tail? UUUMMM?
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