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#21 Mar 4, 2007
I love Gary Chapman - incredible voice. Seems like this habit that Gary has is not a new habit - that being drugs and alcohol.
I read that he's in Bankrupty Court and being accused of fraud. I also read that his second wife - Jennifer Pittman Chapman has filed for legal separation - after 6 1/2 years of marriage. She couldn't put up with this - and everyone chastized Amy Grant for putting up with it for 17 years and finally seeking divorce.
What I saw in Gary Chapman was a man that liked having 'toys'. A helicopter? A Harley Davidson? An extensive musical instrument collection.....a recording studio. None of these things are bad, in of them themselves, but he used to flaunt these items.....I never saw that from Amy Grant.
At Chapman's reception to second wife Pittman, I read that Tom Arnold (once married to Roseanne Barr) gave some sort of toast. Well, I don't know about you, but I have always thought that Mr. Arnold was a bit risque and borderline raunchy and never. Why is he so close to Chapman? Just asking....not making a judgement call.
You'll notice that Amy Grant continues to work with the people she and Chapman once worked with in their marriage. Michael W. Smith, her agents, and so forth.
I say - where there's smoke, there's fire....
Pray for Mr. Chapman......
#22 Mar 30, 2007
Judge Not That Ye Be not Judged..... Pray Pray Pray!!!! For God Is The Only Answer For Gary, Amy or any one of us who is not perfect nor never will be except through Christ Jesus. Their was only one perfect man and He was Christ Jesus Himself, the God-Man. God's only son. Lift up your fellow man in prayer and intercession that they surrender to God's will not their own
#23 Apr 4, 2007
Amen to that.
What I find interesting is a community wanting to 'rally' around Gary Chapman and help him. I think that's great, but let's just back up and think about what he did.
He was driving under the influence of alcohol. This is UNACCEPTABLE. I was hit by a drunk driver in Dec 2004 - not a fun experience - fella' was arrested. So, Mr. Chapman knew what he was doing. Also, they find a marijuana pipe and marijuana on his person? Hello?
I think the community should rally around and pray for him, but I think that people need to ease up on Amy Grant - who's to say these 'tendencies' of Mr. Chapman's weren't prevalent in their 17 year marriage (and they were reported back as far as the mid 1980's).
Pray for Chapman.....
#24 Apr 14, 2007
David, where did you read that Gary was in bankruptcy court and also that his 2nd wife, Jennifer, has filed for legal separation? I haven't seen or heard any media regarding these issues. Yes, we need to pray for all of them...Gary, his kids, his second and first wife! Thanks!
#25 May 10, 2007
Here's the info I found on the current status of the Chapman/Pittman marriage - or separation - however you want to view it.
This is the most readable version, but thre are other pieces on the internet.
On September 26, 2006, Nashville Metro Police reported that Chapman had been arrested on charges of drunk driving and drug possession after he was pulled over for speeding. His blood alcohol content registered nearly twice the legal limit, and a small amount of marijuana and a marijuana pipe were allegedly found in his pocket.
He pled guilty to drunken driving on March 1, 2007, and has had his driver's license suspended, and he will attend an alcohol safety class.. Gary and his second wife Jen have also legally seperated.
#26 May 10, 2007
Here's some other info that came out BEFORE his DUI/Drug Possession:
Creditors charge that the Chapmans pulled a fraudulent legal maneuver to block foreclosure by transferring their Collins Road property to a company and then filing bankruptcy on that company.
The couple is tangled up in a dispute with two Franklin-based companies that hold mortgages on two Chapman holdings: the 78-acre Collins Road property and a 300-acre “Waterbridge” parcel in Williamson County owned by Gary Chapman’s corporation, C Acquisitions.
The creditors, UIC Capital and Umbrella Investment Corp., are separate entities, although they share some common ownership, court papers indicate. Umbrella says the Chapmans owe $388,000, and UIC is trying to collect $3.9 million.
The “transactions between the parties are somewhat complicated, but in essence, the Chapmans pledged the Davidson County property in order to secure financing for the Williamson County property,” states court papers filed by the Chapmans.
The dispute arose first in Williamson County, where Chapman’s C Acquisitions became embroiled in a contract dispute with Umbrella over Umbrella’s attempts to buy the Williamson County property.
The couple got an injunction in Williamson County to prevent Umbrella from foreclosing on the property there, pending resolution of the contract dispute.
Then on Aug. 30, the Chapmans asked the Davidson County Court to stop foreclosure proceedings on the Collins Road property.
Davidson County Chancellor Richard Dinkins agreed to enjoin the foreclosure Sept. 20 if Chapman posted a $55,000 bond. But the Chapmans didn’t post the bond.
Instead, on Sept. 23, they conveyed the property to C Acquisitions and 28 minutes later, according to UIC’s attorneys, the Chapmans filed for bankruptcy on C Acquisitions, which effectively stalled the foreclosure.
UIC got an order from the Davidson County Chancery Court to allow it to seize property, including three SUVs, two motorcycles, an all-terrain vehicle, three personal watercraft, and musical instruments.
On Monday, after sheriff’s deputies came to collect, the Chapman’s filed an emergency motion to stop the seizure, saying they had done nothing fraudulent. They said they asked for the bankruptcy court to sell Williamson County property to pay off creditors. A hearing on the bankruptcy sale is set for Oct. 25.
“The Chapmans and C Acquisitions have participated in appropriate litigation proceedings, and have done nothing to hide or dissipate assets,” the Chapmans claim in court papers.
The Chapmans will be back in court Thursday to try to block the asset seizure or at least require UIC to post a $3.9 million bond.
#27 May 10, 2007
I don't want it to appear that I am pointing the finger at anyone - anyone can screw up.
Not sure what went wrong with his 'money'- I would be sure that a lot of that money lost was money he got in his divorce from Amy Grant. No matter what anyone wants to say, she was the breadwinner in that household - and he had a great problem with that. I'm not saying he dind't make any money, but I am saying that she probably made WAY more.
You know, everyone has hard times - I am having hard times right now, but it's never driven me to drink or use drugs. My thought is that the drinking is not a new thing for Chapman, who was driving drunk, and then to have Marijuana and a Marijuana pipe in on his person - it's inexcusable - forgivable, but inexcusable. It wasn't some quick little screw up - he had to actually go out at some point and get that Pot and that Pot Pipe - and he knew what he was doing when he was getting them.
I am not trying to squash Gary Chapman here - I am just trying to say "Hey, look at this stuff - maybe the Grant/Chapman marriage was much like this." Who knows? If Jennifer Pittman Chapman is having a hard time being married to Gary Chapman after 6 years of marriage and it's because of shennanigans as such, maybe Amy Grant really just couldn't deal with it anymore....
#28 May 17, 2007
This is very interesting. I had no idea about Gary's DUI or separation at all until I just out of nowhere did a search on him (Google and in Wikipedia). Wow...
I will surely pray for him.
I, too, was very interested in his marriage to Amy Grant and all of the other stuff. I am saddened to hear that it sounds like his life is really falling apart.... legal and financial troubles, an arrest for DUI and pot charges and his wife leaving him, wow. I do feel for him... surely he is more in need of prayer now than ever.
Diane in NJ
#29 May 17, 2007
David, where did you get that info about his legal and money troubles?
#30 May 17, 2007
The separation info was on Wikipedia.
#31 May 18, 2007
And I cannot imagine why you would think that Amy is a bad example of the Christian life. Because she couldn't stay in a marriage that was draining the life out of her? Should she have stayed in it & died quietly everyday? How would that make her a better person?
I personally like Amy a lot but disagree totally with the above comment. It isnt about what would have helped make her a better person... that is not the point at all. If I did half the things I thought might make me happy, I would be behind bars probably! And so would most of us!
It is about obeying God in our day to day life.
I am not commenting on the Grant/Chapman marriage because 1) I dont know either one of them personally and 2) it is none of my business! I just couldnt let that comment go though; many people are stuck in dead marriages and wish they could just leave, but can't or won't. Now only God knows the Grant and Chapman marriage and that is for Him and Him alone to judge.
#32 May 25, 2007
Diane, I couldn't have said it any better.
We're here on earth not to make ourselves happy, but to please God. Strange thing is, in doing that I've ultimately made myself happy as the years go on!
It's not about our ego fulfillment, needs, or emotions that we let rule us. It's about doing the right thing.
If I left someone everytime they screwed up or gave into their bad habits, I'd probably be married 10 times by now.
Ok, I'll say it - I think what really bothers me in the end is Amy Grant's confused attitude about leaving Gary Chapman. On the one hand she has publicly apologized, on the other hand she does not. As an example, I heard a Canadian radio interview with her last year. The (Christian) host asked if she still loved playing golf with Vince Gill. She laughed and basically said no, that she only played golf because she was stalking Vince. Now this was a joke, it was meant to be funny, but what isn't funny is that she was married at the time of her "stalking". Not funny at all.
#33 Jun 16, 2007
well i think its funny and what is wrong with a lil funny in life huh....ur just a chapman lover maybe
#34 Jun 17, 2007
You surely DON'T live up to your name!
Go be fanatic in Iraq!!
#35 Jun 22, 2007
So Grant fan, you think it's funny that a married woman chases after another man?
Yeah, uh...great joke. If you're married, tell that one to your husband.
#37 Jun 29, 2007
I was just googling through the internet to find out what happened to Gary Chapman. How very sad. The whole thing is just heartbreaking. I'm glad to see Amy has moved on with her life. She seems very happy and we all need to pray for Gary, Jennifer and her kids. He's a talented man who needs to let go of a lot of pride and cast his cares to the Lord.....
#38 Jul 1, 2007
Here is the source that I found about the foreclosure. Looks like a Nashville paper:
#39 Jul 2, 2007
Go be livin in Freedom in Iraq, why dont you all "good doer's" Do you need us to schedule your Rehab Admission Date now, or later?
Pray for yourself first!!!
#40 Jul 6, 2007
Amy has not said a bad word about Gary in a long time and held her tongue a lot more than he did after the divorce. Wherever the most fault was, the kids don't deserve to hear their parents bad mouth each other in the press. I always liked both of them and the thing that bothered me most was his sanctimonious attitude after the divorce. I pray for both of them, that things will work out for the best. Their three children certainly deserve two functional parents. I think that we will never know all that went on, and it isn't our business. But what do we teach our kids when we act like what we THINK happened is beyond God's ability to forgive? Jesus's death atoned for all our sins, no matter how grave and we need to live it in word and deed. If I were in Amy's position I might give mixed signals because of what I don't want my kids reading in the media later.... we can judge actions but not motives. In all liklihood Gary has had a substance problem all these years. My dad had one, and even after he was off the sauce he was still hard to live with. He had a lot of bad habits of communication from years of numbing his feelings. I feel for all the parties involved- but especially the kids. May they all experience God's mercy.
#41 Jul 10, 2007
Nissa - couldn't have said it better myself. It is within God's bounds to forgive the Chapman/Grant divorce. It is within God's bounds to forgive Gary's alcohol and drug addiction and fraud issues.....
My Grandfather is a 'recovered' alcoholic. What we have determined after he stopped drinking is a man that gets very depressed....and we believe that he was dealing with his unrealized depression with alcohol. Maybe this was Gary's issue? I don't know.
I do know that what he's demonstrated since the divorce and his remarriage is not something that 'just happens'- the alcohol, the marijuana, the fraud and seizure of property. My thought is, could he have been exercising these same traits during his marriage to Grant? You know, Amy Grant was always wanting to 'stop' touring....and be a Mom. I remember reading that in 1989 during the end of the "Lead Me On Tour" - but for some reason, she kept on touring after that. Was it because money got 'squandered'? I do know that Gary had a lot of 'toys'- many of those toys he had were seized as of late, from what I gather. Also, his second wife has legally separated from him....
I'm not trying to point the finger at Chapman - that is not my thing here. What I am saying is that if his second wife can't even handle the stuff that has gone on in 6 years of marriage, how could we expect Amy Grant to have been able to stomach it after 17 years of marriage? It may have been quite the roller coaster - and for some, roller coasters can make them extremely sick.
I'm just saying that I don't think Amy is all to blame for this divorce.
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