Babies In The Womb Affected By Pesticides In The Home

Jul 13, 2012 Full story: Medical News Today 22

Main Category: Pregnancy / Obstetrics Also Included In: Water - Air Quality / Agriculture ; Autism ; ADHD Article Date: 13 Jul 2012 - 1:00 PDT Air samples from homes of Hispanic mothers-to-be along the Texas-Mexico border contained multiple pesticides in a majority of the houses, according to a study conducted by the School of Medicine at The ... (more)

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Since: Jan 07

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#1 Jul 13, 2012
This would be the environmental's they're talking about, the daily exposure of the air around you and what's in it, and the harm it can do.

Since: Feb 12

United States

#2 Jul 13, 2012
But how is this possible? I mean there is no such thing as a Baby in the Womb according to the libs. So how can something effect a non-entity?
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#3 Jul 13, 2012
UR BS wrote:
But how is this possible? I mean there is no such thing as a Baby in the Womb according to the libs. So how can something effect a non-entity?
Good point UR. But lordy, here is another one of those Texas University studies, like the one being investigated due to 'gay' people being offended. It involves only Hispanics, they live along the Texas/Mexico border, and all were in their 'third trimester', and the STUDY stated that the fetus was in a period, "when the fetal brain undergoes a 'growth spurt'." Now that statement alone, leads dumb folks like me to believe a fetus was experiencing some sort of "brain growth" prior to the 'third trimester'. Ergo, pain is present before third trimester.

Dr. Beatriz Tapia, M.D., M.P.H., and lecturer at the U.T. Health Science Center appears to have done a 'flawed' study according to the gay community militants attacking the U.T. system for allowing the Regnerus study.

The study involved only 25 families, hardly a sufficient number of samples, considering the thousands of families along the Texas/Mexico border, and deals only with pregnant Hispanics, and does not include blacks or whites-biased right up front.

Secondly, the research asked "loaded and leading" questions, like whether these pregnant women used pesticides, how close did they live to "agricultural fields", how often they observed "spraying operations" in the fields, or did they detect any "pesticide or other odors" coming from the fields.(It does not appear that they asked whether these participants ever read the label warning on a container of pesticide, or even whether they could read at all. Nor does it appear the study identified whether the study participants had sufficient knowledge and education to identify a pesticide odor, or "other odors" to determine if those odors were potentially harmful).

And finally, the study violated "research protocol" by not considering other valuable demographics such as religion, political preferences, economic stability, educational backgrounds, Mexican dietary considerations, and sexual preferences. I might also ask, who funded this study, which was not reported?

It would be in the best interest of the University of Texas to begin an immediate investigation into this flawed, ill conceived, and wasteful use of the taxpayers resources.

Garbage Science

Winnipeg, Canada

#4 Jul 14, 2012
friend wrote:
This would be the environmental's they're talking about, the daily exposure of the air around you and what's in it, and the harm it can do.
Vaccines are environmental too.

Since: Jan 07

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#5 Jul 14, 2012
PATRIOT had a lot to say, but not much of value. Just what would religion, political preferences, economic stability, educational backgrounds, Mexican dietary and sexual preferences have to do with any medical study? Nothing. But since you think it has bearing, better tell Wakefield. He had none of that so called "research protocol".

You obviously missed the point of the study, and why it was conducted where it was and who was in it. They modeled the pilot project on studies done in northern Manhattan or South Bronx. Pesticide exposure is known to be harmful to a fetus and people. Low-cost, less-toxic pest control methods is the message to those living in area's of high pest problems, and lower income choices of pest control and where they're getting it. You must had missed the part about 80 percent included chlorpyrifos, banned in 2000 except ant and roach baits in child-resistant packaging, and found 72 percent diazinon which was totally banned in 2004 for residential use. The amount who participated in the study really doesn't matter as much as what they found in air exposure.
Not Much Value Too

Winnipeg, Canada

#6 Jul 15, 2012
friend wrote:
PATRIOT had a lot to say, but not much of value. Just what would religion, political preferences, economic stability, educational backgrounds, Mexican dietary and sexual preferences have to do with any medical study? Nothing. But since you think it has bearing, better tell Wakefield. He had none of that so called "research protocol".
You obviously missed the point of the study, and why it was conducted where it was and who was in it. They modeled the pilot project on studies done in northern Manhattan or South Bronx. Pesticide exposure is known to be harmful to a fetus and people. Low-cost, less-toxic pest control methods is the message to those living in area's of high pest problems, and lower income choices of pest control and where they're getting it. You must had missed the part about 80 percent included chlorpyrifos, banned in 2000 except ant and roach baits in child-resistant packaging, and found 72 percent diazinon which was totally banned in 2004 for residential use. The amount who participated in the study really doesn't matter as much as what they found in air exposure.
Patriot must be a provac Neanderthal if he post things will little value. Sounds like someone eles that does that in most autism forums.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#7 Jul 15, 2012
friend wrote:
PATRIOT had a lot to say, but not much of value. Just what would religion, political preferences, economic stability, educational backgrounds, Mexican dietary and sexual preferences have to do with any medical study? Nothing. But since you think it has bearing, better tell Wakefield. He had none of that so called "research protocol".
You obviously missed the point of the study, and why it was conducted where it was and who was in it. They modeled the pilot project on studies done in northern Manhattan or South Bronx. Pesticide exposure is known to be harmful to a fetus and people. Low-cost, less-toxic pest control methods is the message to those living in area's of high pest problems, and lower income choices of pest control and where they're getting it. You must had missed the part about 80 percent included chlorpyrifos, banned in 2000 except ant and roach baits in child-resistant packaging, and found 72 percent diazinon which was totally banned in 2004 for residential use. The amount who participated in the study really doesn't matter as much as what they found in air exposure.
Oh, I didn't miss the point of the study. I just wanted to parody the left-wing liberials who jumped all over the Regnerus study with backlash opposition to the research done on 'children of gay parents'. The whole point is because a 'freelance writer' from New York City, Scott Rosensweig-AKA Scott Ross, who writes about gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, and transgender issues, writes the President of the University of Texas and registers a complaint against Regnerus. Rosensweig/Ross cites Regnerus as committing "scientific misconduct" and that his study was a "study designed so as to be guaranteed to make gay people look bad, through means plainly fraudulent and defamatory."

One of his critics, UT sociology professor Debra Umberson Stated, "Regnerus' study is bad science. Among other errors, he made egregious yet strategic decisions in selecting particular groups for comparison."

Did not the UT School of Medicine study "select a particular group" without a comparison? Was not the Agriculture Industry in Texas vilianized by a "study designed so as to be guaranteed to make farmers and chemical companies look bad?"

This is a witch hunt on the Regnerus study initiated by a special social interest group simply because the group did not like the conclusions developed in the study. If we are going to witch hunt in Texas, let's practice witch hunting on every study made, or commonly known as 'censorship' of every study made.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#8 Jul 15, 2012
Not Much Value Too wrote:
<quoted text>Patriot must be a provac Neanderthal if he post things will little value. Sounds like someone eles that does that in most autism forums.
Another victim of Mad Cow Country spouting off. I wonder if Mad Cow might be a producer of autism? If that were to be the case, I suggest the American people boycott Canadian beef.

Damn, that might be a good cause to champion. Spread the word Canada's beef is tainted with reoccuring infections of Mad Cow, and is unsafe to eat. I think I will hit the Canadian Topix Forum first, then to Autism Forums, and work my way down. I will attribute it to Not Much Value Too as a foundation source.

Thanks for the idea.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#9 Jul 15, 2012
Not Much Value Too wrote:
<quoted text>Patriot must be a provac Neanderthal if he post things will little value. Sounds like someone eles that does that in most autism forums.
You just gave me a good idea. We all know that Canada has re-occurring cases of Mad Cow. Maybe I should devote some of my time hitting the Canadian and Autism forums and warn people not to eat Canadian Beef. Kinda work my way down the forms until I have hit all the major health and environmental forums. You know, start an anti-Canadian Beef campaign alerting Americans not to eat Canadian Beef because "it may" cause autism. You won't mind if I use your name as the source of inspiration?
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#11 Jul 16, 2012
DUH MOMENT wrote:
<quoted text> Sombody struck a nerve.
I love to watch the 'holier-than-thou' Canadians get into the middle of an argument that opens their sins to the world. How's your nerve on this fine summer day?
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#12 Jul 16, 2012
DUH MOMENT wrote:
<quoted text> Sombody struck a nerve.
BTW-Changing you name won't save ya. I'll use both of them.

Since: Jan 07

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#13 Jul 16, 2012
The list of changing names is endless. here are a few more he changes to:

fbomber, 1 in 38 have autism, 1 in 64 Britain, 1 in 91 USA, YOGI, VACCINES-AUTISM, Innocent victims, Bee-ess, McCarth Vader, Snarky, Jim Carey, MR TEE HEE, Paul for profit Offit, Pale Rider, Paul for profit Offit, Paul for profit Offit, Brian Smear Deer, Betty Boop, Jenny McCarthy, Dr Andrew Wakefield, Joe Cruel, Turd Detector, Another Duh Moment, it just goes on and on.

Winnipeg Canada uses multiple names and admits it. This person IS only here to cause trouble and attack others. The quanity and quality alone displays non functional behavior.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#14 Jul 16, 2012
friend wrote:
The list of changing names is endless. here are a few more he changes to:
fbomber, 1 in 38 have autism, 1 in 64 Britain, 1 in 91 USA, YOGI, VACCINES-AUTISM, Innocent victims, Bee-ess, McCarth Vader, Snarky, Jim Carey, MR TEE HEE, Paul for profit Offit, Pale Rider, Paul for profit Offit, Paul for profit Offit, Brian Smear Deer, Betty Boop, Jenny McCarthy, Dr Andrew Wakefield, Joe Cruel, Turd Detector, Another Duh Moment, it just goes on and on.
Winnipeg Canada uses multiple names and admits it. This person IS only here to cause trouble and attack others. The quanity and quality alone displays non functional behavior.
You did a good job busting him.

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#15 Jul 16, 2012
PATRIOT I don't quite get your opinion. Was Mark Regnerus part of this study? I can some what see the similarities of the 2 studies, but not how it pertains to neurological disorders like autism.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#18 Jul 17, 2012
friend wrote:
PATRIOT I don't quite get your opinion. Was Mark Regnerus part of this study? I can some what see the similarities of the 2 studies, but not how it pertains to neurological disorders like autism.
Yes, Regnerus was part of the study. His study dealt with an issue as to how children of gay parents, or parent, and how children of heterosexual parents, or parent, fair in life when they become adults.

The UT Health Science study dealt with pregnant women who live on the Texas border, and near, or are, subject to the introduction of pesticides into the community. In this study there is an implication that pesticides affecting air quality and water resources in that area may cause Autism.

The Regnerus study caused a huge uproar within the gay community and a pending peer review of the study itself, and has nothing to do with Autism. The Autism study, is done with the same study protocol, but who cares-even though there is no proof that pesitcides are the cause of Autism. I'm not sure anybody is sure as to what causes Autism.

My parody of the two studies was to show that no study is perfect, and it all depends on the sensitive nature of the impacted social group, or groups, as to who is going to be offended and who isn't. In one the gays are offended-in the other the chemical companies and farmers should be offended. And if UT is going to review one just because the gays are offended, UT should review all studies. Otherwise UT might find itself guilty of selective censorship.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#19 Jul 17, 2012
OSAMA wrote:
<quoted text> You're only busted if you give a shit, which I don't.
You're only shit if your busted, which you are, and I don't give a rats rear that you are shit. So, people need to not walk around you barefooted.

Since: Jan 07

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#20 Jul 17, 2012
I get the study about children who were brought up by gay parents. It's a very political topic today, but it hardly belongs in an autism forum as a topic.

I also agree no study is perfect. That said, chemical companies and farmers should be more ashamed than offended by this studies results. All chemicals have the potential for health risks, some more than others. It's not so much as the group of people studied as it is the group of people more at risk from exposure as for instance compared to where I live. More studies need to be done about on this. It's a silent health hazard.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#23 Jul 18, 2012
friend wrote:
I get the study about children who were brought up by gay parents. It's a very political topic today, but it hardly belongs in an autism forum as a topic.
I also agree no study is perfect. That said, chemical companies and farmers should be more ashamed than offended by this studies results. All chemicals have the potential for health risks, some more than others. It's not so much as the group of people studied as it is the group of people more at risk from exposure as for instance compared to where I live. More studies need to be done about on this. It's a silent health hazard.
Ionly tried to parallel the two studies as being done by UT, one was acceptable, but maybe flawed, the other was unacceptable, and may be flawed. Dual standards on the two studies as to there accuracy should not apply just because it may offend gays, or Hispanic pregnant women, or you, or me.

Now to the "more studies need to be done." How many studies will be done if the people performing those studies are going to be held to career ending complaints/investigations being initiated by 'wounded-over sensative' opponents? You my be viewing the newest age of censorship.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#24 Jul 18, 2012
AttentionDefecateDisorder wrote:
<quoted text> So as a gay man were you offended?
I am not the gay man, you are. And the way you put that accusation appears that you are trying make the word "gay" a derogatory, defamatory labeling of another human being. Obviously you believe calling someone gay is a nasty, filthy, and insulting slur.

But at least you got a more appropriate definitive name for yourself-defecate. There has always been a smattering of credibility as to what you were an expert in-I believe you are the expert defecation authority on this thread. I can almost smell you from here.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#26 Jul 18, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> The only one sayin that is you. Are you OK?
Saying what? How old are you? Nine? Does your mommy know you are getting on her laptop and showing what kind of idiots they raise in Canada, the land of the French and the home of the Beaver. That is Canada's national bird isn't it?

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