Standing Room Only at Fluvanna 'Tom i...

Standing Room Only at Fluvanna 'Tom in Your Town'

There are 20 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Aug 17, 2009, titled Standing Room Only at Fluvanna 'Tom in Your Town'. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Congressman Tom Perriello brought his town hall tour to Fluvanna County Monday evening.

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Scottsburg, VA

#1 Aug 17, 2009
Nothing on video or story to really let anyone know the feelings of the people there. Not very good reporting at all.
Chris

Spotsylvania, VA

#2 Aug 18, 2009
The first quote was from a woman who embodied the views of roughly 80% of the attendees. The second quote was from a woman who is actually at the far left of the left/reform-bill-as-it-is, supporters. Their were the homemade signs and the sentiments of the first woman and their were the Healthcare Now and SEIU manufactured signs and protesters, of which the second woman was a part.
Mr. Perriello's answers were the same as they have been at all the town meetings. Though I am not currently a supporter of his, I honor the time and effort on his part to come out and at least, make people think he is listening. The FedEX/UPS/UPSP story has got to go, though.
martha Cragun

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Aug 18, 2009
Ditto to the above comments. Why did the DP wait to report on this story when Ruckersville had a FULL HOUSE also? There were many supporters for both sides at that event also however the blue arm bands did bother some people.
One comment from Perriello which was under his breath was he would not vote for "the bill" if it had anything about abortion in it. That is easy for him to say as by not having anything in the bill about it that means ANYTHING can be done.
The insurance companies are NOT the problem, why can't the government just get out of trying to change our the US Constitution. Stay away from my health care! Martha
AccountabilityPl ease

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Aug 18, 2009
martha Cragun wrote:
Ditto to the above comments. Why did the DP wait to report on this story when Ruckersville had a FULL HOUSE also? There were many supporters for both sides at that event also however the blue arm bands did bother some people.
One comment from Perriello which was under his breath was he would not vote for "the bill" if it had anything about abortion in it. That is easy for him to say as by not having anything in the bill about it that means ANYTHING can be done.
The insurance companies are NOT the problem, why can't the government just get out of trying to change our the US Constitution. Stay away from my health care! Martha
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You're right, Martha. I'm afraid this health care legislation/takeover is loaded with tricks. For example, if nothing about abortion is mentioned, it can just be assumed that it is covered 100%. Some liberal judge will make sure of that! I also feel that, even though the public option may now be "off the table", these "coops" that are being discussed will open the door for government intervention, then total control--which is what so many of us are fighting against. Reform, yes--let's do what we can to lower the costs and make health care more AFFORDABLE. But please, no government intervention or control. Cash for Clunkers and all of the other failed government programs are proof-positive this will be a disaster. You can't add an additional 50 million people into the system for "free and preventive" care without creating HUGE shortages and rationing. There are only so many doctors and nurses. Some bureaucrat will then have to decide who will and won't receive care--DEATH PANELS or whatever you want to call it. Our country is so far in debt now. By then, they will have NO choice but to save money, plus the rationing due to shortages of staff. THAT IS A FACT--it is as clear as the wart on Obama's nose! Government must stay out of our healthcare.
Carrie Wigal

Bassett, VA

#5 Aug 18, 2009
Perriello admitted this bill had constitutional issues. I was disappointed that he was willing to fore go his oath to uphold the constitution and instead "let the courts fight it out". I hope he will reconsider this position.
Fluvanna Resident

Wirtz, VA

#6 Aug 18, 2009
I appreciated Perriello's time. However, it would be more fair if only local residents were given a chance to speak at these forums. It would certainly save a lot of time and give Perriello a true sense of how the constituents in that precinct actually felt.
Raye

Marietta, GA

#7 Aug 18, 2009
Fluvanna Resident wrote:
I appreciated Perriello's time. However, it would be more fair if only local residents were given a chance to speak at these forums. It would certainly save a lot of time and give Perriello a true sense of how the constituents in that precinct actually felt.
I recently read that the 5th district is larger than New Jersey. Given a territory that size, it would be impossible for everyone to be heard, but only if they are locals. I'm not a big fan of the Congressman, but I would not expect that he be able to make an appearance in each and every voting precinct.
SIMON SAYS

United States

#8 Aug 18, 2009
you do understand that they dont want our opinions. They just want to shove this down our throats and be able to act like they took it to the people and allowed the to give their input. More Liberal garbage. just bend over and take it, they are in control and are going to do to us as they wish.
Beebee

United States

#9 Aug 18, 2009
I also attended and was offered a manufactured sign by the Conservative Union who were stopping people on their way into the school. I also saw them giving out manufactured signs opposing healthcare reform to those already seated in the audience. (I was standing beside them). There were home made signs in favor of health care reform. The whole audience should have been observed instead of seeing just what you wanted to see.
NormanT

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Aug 18, 2009
Minor E wrote:
There were no chairs because we are wasting money building unneeded schools. There were only enough chairs for all the middle school students, which should tell anyone that 75 million dollar schools are unneeded.
Wasting money building unneeded schools? What planet are you from? Central Elementary has about 1,000 kids, the middle school cafeteria where the town-hall meeting was held has at least 5 different lunch periods in order to fit the kids in. The high school is just as crowded.

Simple fact, not only are new schools needed in the county, but they are way overdue.
NormanT

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Aug 18, 2009
The town hall meeting was interesting, with the manufactured signs supporting the Obama plan, and grass roots hand written signs showing opposition to the plan. In general as the town hall meetings have taken place across the country the Democrats have abused anyone that opposes the plan calling them all sorts of names.

People voicing their views at the meetings have been called un-American. Is it un-American to speak out in opposition to these plans, isn’t free speech part of our 1st Amendment rights? The Speaker of the House said this couldn’t be grass roots opposition, since we were too well dressed. What; do grass root movements have to be dressed like bums? Those who oppose the plan have been called mobsters!

We have been called Nazis for speaking out, yet the bill calls for doctor’s to provide end of life options to our senior citizens. The Whitehouse web site had a link so that you could report anyone who was distributing information considered false. This has since been taken off the site. Nazi Germany practiced euthanasia and had neighbors reporting on neighbors for speaking out against the government. Is that where this administration is heading?

It’s also been reported that Craig’s List has had ads looking for people to attend town hall meetings at $300 to $500 per week,‘working for change’.

Will Congress listen to the people, or will they decide to push this thru anyhow. It’s time to let Congress know they work for us. Speak and be heard.
Dark Side

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Aug 18, 2009
That is the problem Congress has forgotten they work for the American citizen not the other way around!!! We are all for helping improve health care in America. But this plan is a take over of the private health insurance industry!!! This is all about power this has nothing to do with improving health services to the average citizen!!
Fluvanna Resident

Vinton, VA

#14 Aug 18, 2009
I was disgusted with the right-wingers and their "don't care about anyone but me" attitudes. ironically most of these people call themselves Christians. But they wouldn't give a penny to help people that aren't covered by health insurance. How Christian of them.
They like to discredit Government run services like the Post Office yet none of them object to the Military. Good forbid we should cut military spending. They would say the military protects us... yet health care doesn't?
Scottsville

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Aug 19, 2009
All of you who are on medicare and are protesting this reform or public option or say government shouldn't be involoved--- burn your medicare cards. Give up your medicare, go our tomorrow and try to get private insuranc...See how the free market treats you. Then I will respect you when you say "keep government off my health care".
Scottsville

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Aug 19, 2009
MEDICARE IS A PUBLIC OPTION for older people. No one has to take medicare. It doesn't stop you from buying private insurance instead of or in addition to medicare. No, its not perfect, and you do have to pay somthing for it, but without it, our seniors would be much worse off. Insurance companies would charge seniors way more, or wouldn't cover them at all, if it weren't for government run medicare. We need to fix it (and the unfunded mandates under Bush don't help), but I don't see anyone rushing to give it up.
Jerri

Marietta, GA

#17 Aug 19, 2009
Fluvanna Resident wrote:
I was disgusted with the right-wingers and their "don't care about anyone but me" attitudes. ironically most of these people call themselves Christians. But they wouldn't give a penny to help people that aren't covered by health insurance. How Christian of them.
They like to discredit Government run services like the Post Office yet none of them object to the Military. Good forbid we should cut military spending. They would say the military protects us... yet health care doesn't?
It's too bad the military does protect all of us. They can't be selective in the people who are protected with their time and blood. People like you who are too blind to realize that we wouldn't even be having a discussion about health care without the military have no concept of where this country would be without these good men and women who are willing to die, even for people like you. Without the military do you really think this country would have been able to exist and flourish for the last 200+ years? Don't fool yourself, this country has enemies, both in the form of terrorists and nations. Sure, we're having hard times now, we've had hard times before, but because we are a strong and independent people, we have been able to come out of those hard times even stronger. Our enemies are out there just waiting for this country to loose it's will to protect what we have created. If we loose that will, then lack of health care will be the very least of our worries.
NormanT

Charlottesville, VA

#18 Aug 19, 2009
Fluvanna Resident wrote:
I was disgusted with the right-wingers and their "don't care about anyone but me" attitudes. ironically most of these people call themselves Christians. But they wouldn't give a penny to help people that aren't covered by health insurance. How Christian of them.
They like to discredit Government run services like the Post Office yet none of them object to the Military. Good forbid we should cut military spending. They would say the military protects us... yet health care doesn't?
Take a look at how much money is donated to charity each year by Republicans and Democrats I think you’ll be surprised. It turns out that the Democrats who keep saying they want to help those in need give very little, whereas Republicans give a significant amount to charity.

Which is more important, stating that you want o help, or actually helping?
NormanT

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Aug 19, 2009
Scottsville wrote:
MEDICARE IS A PUBLIC OPTION for older people. No one has to take medicare. It doesn't stop you from buying private insurance instead of or in addition to medicare. No, its not perfect, and you do have to pay somthing for it, but without it, our seniors would be much worse off. Insurance companies would charge seniors way more, or wouldn't cover them at all, if it weren't for government run medicare. We need to fix it (and the unfunded mandates under Bush don't help), but I don't see anyone rushing to give it up.
No one is suggesting giving up Medicare, but this healthcare reform bill states that they want to cut back on Medicare and Medicaid. The issue is that Medicare like Social Security is being run into the ground by the very people who want the people to give them more to run. If they can't run Medicare, how can they run healthcare in general?
NormanT

Charlottesville, VA

#20 Aug 19, 2009
Jerri wrote:
<quoted text>It's too bad the military does protect all of us. They can't be selective in the people who are protected with their time and blood. People like you who are too blind to realize that we wouldn't even be having a discussion about health care without the military have no concept of where this country would be without these good men and women who are willing to die, even for people like you. Without the military do you really think this country would have been able to exist and flourish for the last 200+ years? Don't fool yourself, this country has enemies, both in the form of terrorists and nations. Sure, we're having hard times now, we've had hard times before, but because we are a strong and independent people, we have been able to come out of those hard times even stronger. Our enemies are out there just waiting for this country to loose it's will to protect what we have created. If we loose that will, then lack of health care will be the very least of our worries.
Amen! God bless the military.
Scottsville

Charlottesville, VA

#21 Aug 19, 2009
My point exactly, norm. anyone who is against government involvement in health care or a public option who does not also propose to get rid of medicare and medicaid is a hypocrite. Most of the people opposing the "public option" already have a public option available to them (medicare), and chose to take advantage of it.
Additionally, the "cuts" you speak of to medicare are wasteful redundant spending and fraud that both parties agree need to be addressed.

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