Who do you side with in Ferguson?
Undecided

Oak Ridge, TN

#1644 Aug 27, 2014
Sad story wrote:
Wow!! This is not even about Mr. Brown at all. I do not blame others for what has happened in history because it is not the fault of people today. I had a very poor childhood with every opportunity to turn to the streets, to lie, to steal, to join gangs. But guess what?, I did not. I have earned everything I have and believe me their have been times that I have been beat down, stole from, lied on and cheated out of many things but I don't blame any race. My blaming is indivual not a whole race. We want Justice, we want peace, we want something, well what about what these two families wanted yes two families. This has turned into let's gain instead of let's be a whole community who lifts one another up. Seriously looting will help how? Any upper hand for justice that community has is being discredited every day by people of all races out for themselves. We don't need media, Jesse Jackson, the news, or any other race help group. What we need is God!!! I am sorry for both families involved in this situation no matter of the wrong doing on either side. Those two were both valued members of a family!
Thank You so much for showing some compassion! Thank you and thank you again! I have my opinion of who I feel is MORE in the right in this situation(the officer), but you are 100% correct on everything you just said! We do need God as a Nation! This is a horrific story all together and both families are suffering. I hate that the young black man was killed, but I also hate that the officer is being depicted as a villain. I do think he was defending himself as he was trained to do. Part if me at times feels like it was over kill, but another part if me knows what I would do in a situation like that. I would've shot him as well. Racism is alive and well spreading like a cancer! I live with a man who is as racist as a person can be and it sickens me. I teach my children to live all people despite their skin color. I do admit that I pass judgment in other but do so by considering their actions and attitudes individually. I am sorry to say that I have ALWAYS been an advocate for blacks and against racism, but since recently icing to Knoxville Rn. I have come into contact with multiple Blacks who have unfortunately changed my opinion of them. I truly feel like they all(for the most part) want me to die. It's that bad. I feel hurt and disappointed by this as I have always had a heart for the Black race and the things they have endured. Why they despise me and my fellow Whites as much as they do I will never understand as we today had nothing to do with what happened 200 years ago!? This hateful evil cancer is spreading vastly and I wish it would end, but I do not have much faith in that ever happening. I am being honest when I say I personally have seen more racism coming from the Black communities than the White race. At times I get angry, but your post helped me to put things back in perspective. Both races are hurting and there are good, bad, and ugly in both. I will continue to teach my children to LOVE everyone! I will also teach her that evil exists and to be careful around people if all colors, but being truthful I will also say that I can never allow my children to go to the end of town where most Blacks preside here in Knoxville. The crime and murders there feast ky outnumber that if other areas here. However, my six yr old bestfriend in school is a little black bit and she says they have so much fun together, but asks me not to tell her daddy. I told her not to ever ever worry about what her daddy thought concerning that topic! I let him know very quickly to never mention anything if the such in front if our children again and I am as serious about that as anything I'm passionate about! I will protect myself and my children as the officer protected himself, but I also refuse to HATE anyone because they are black. They can hate me and mine all they want as long as those particular ones stay away!
black and not proud

Independence, KS

#1645 Aug 27, 2014
Blacktigershark wrote:
NONE of the people that you have mentioned below were killed BY THE STATE law enforcement officers, Dingus, so that is why you don't see Jesse or Al at these scenes...also, you admittedly stated that there was no national news coverage on the situation...likely the same thing when a White civilian kills a Black civilian...you also conveniently left out circumstances and details, as there may have been some killings that were justified, which would have kept these killings from hitting the national stage, like a White person trespassing on a Black person's property, for example!
It is dinguses like you that like to skew the issues here, but until you come up with a list of beatings or killings of White suspects (that were either surrendering to the law, or were co-operative during their arrest) by law enforcement officers, then you are simply bringing up non-relevant situations, Dingus.
Do some homework, and get back to us...we would equally protest against the beatings or killings of White suspects just as much as we protest against the beating or killings of Black suspects by the police, when those suspects (Black or White) either surrendered to the law, or were co-operative during their arrest!
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i dont believe george zimmerman or trayvon martin were cops but good ole jesse and sharpton were their, i dont think oj and his wife were cops either but jesse was in court congratulating oj for getting out of a murder charge. you should do your homework also
lefty

Ville Platte, LA

#1648 Aug 27, 2014
Flygerian wrote:
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No the "God Almighty exists and has a direct impact on MY LIFE theology". You havent heard of it have you? lol
No, we've never heard of "MY LIFE theology," tell us about it.

Since: Aug 14

Location hidden

#1649 Aug 27, 2014
anonymous wrote:
The cop needs to go to jail where he belongs.
I'm certainly glad you are not on the jury. You do know what a jury is, don't u?

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Since: Aug 14

Location hidden

#1650 Aug 27, 2014
IT is really interesting how much people LIE

one group says Brown was moving backwards. One group say he was rushing at the cop

someone is really lying... but most important is WHY?

just to furtheer some racial agenda? revenge?

I think a lot of Blacks just want revenge for slavery.

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“Towards Spring”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#1654 Aug 27, 2014
Sad story wrote:
Wow!! This is not even about Mr. Brown at all. I do not blame others for what has happened in history because it is not the fault of people today. I had a very poor childhood with every opportunity to turn to the streets, to lie, to steal, to join gangs. But guess what?, I did not. I have earned everything I have and believe me their have been times that I have been beat down, stole from, lied on and cheated out of many things but I don't blame any race. My blaming is indivual not a whole race. We want Justice, we want peace, we want something, well what about what these two families wanted yes two families. This has turned into let's gain instead of let's be a whole community who lifts one another up. Seriously looting will help how? Any upper hand for justice that community has is being discredited every day by people of all races out for themselves. We don't need media, Jesse Jackson, the news, or any other race help group. What we need is God!!! I am sorry for both families involved in this situation no matter of the wrong doing on either side. Those two were both valued members of a family!
STAR POST:
Flygerian

Dallas, TX

#1655 Aug 27, 2014
reason wrote:
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Goofball you just went against my post about Obama causing a racial divide by jumping to conclusions instead of viewing the facts or waiting for facts to come in with a response of study and view cause and effect. Are you ok? Can you give a decent response or is that the best you got? Of it is im gonna guess you to be in 2nd maybe 3rd grade?
You're the "goofball" for believing presidents in the first place. Ever heard of lobbying which is basically bribing? Let me guess. You're one of the ignorants that choose "left" or "right" instead of demanding that both sides, desist from siding and come together to work on the problems of the country? I havent been able to vote much long, but even I can tell that presidents answer to people OTHER than their constituents. Wanna take a look at the wealth gap in this country?

Yall are losing and you dont even know it! You're too distracted by blacks that your country has oppressed for almost 400 years! Tisk tisk tisk
Toby

Eugene, OR

#1656 Aug 27, 2014
We are having to concentrate on a segment of black society, that is, its very worst, so naturally these horrible generalizations are surfacing, but really many of them seem to be very racially biased and stereotypical observations and opinions, we shouldn't generalize that the hood represents black society on a collective level. I believe it is around 9 % of all African Americans that live in housing projects and communities considered Ghettos, so they certainly don't represent the majority of blacks, and the fact is within the hood itself a percentage would be honest none-violent blacks just honestly struggling to survive who don't advocate the bad elements within the hood. So It would be more accurate to eliminate the negative generalizations on a collective level and emphasize that the opinion being rendered is in connection to gang -bangers , rat hood activity, thugs and criminal activity within the hood itself, wouldn't you agree?
Toby

Eugene, OR

#1657 Aug 27, 2014
Flygerian wrote:
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You're the "goofball" for believing presidents in the first place. Ever heard of lobbying which is basically bribing? Let me guess. You're one of the ignorants that choose "left" or "right" instead of demanding that both sides, desist from siding and come together to work on the problems of the country? I havent been able to vote much long, but even I can tell that presidents answer to people OTHER than their constituents. Wanna take a look at the wealth gap in this country?
Yall are losing and you dont even know it! You're too distracted by blacks that your country has oppressed for almost 400 years! Tisk tisk tisk
When a retort begins with ad hominem, the argument is already lost, personal insults don't invalidate an argument, or the premise of an argument. Tisk tisk tisk
Flygerian

Dallas, TX

#1659 Aug 27, 2014
Toby wrote:
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It's a comparison of like events, an analogous event used to expose a double standard, what's comical is anyone who doesn't agree with your biased perspectives is automatically (deflecting) your favorite word used in defense for about every flawed premise you present. So people should be outraged because you think they should be, wow, opinionated is definitely not the word for you. You should explain exactly why you think anyone should be outraged, don't give us numbers provide statistics. Your rationalizing and deterministic narrative has been thoroughly discredited, you're just way too dense to realize it, it will probably take your inflated ego several weeks to comprehend it, but then your inflated ego will (here comes your favorite word )...... deflect that reality.
The person is exemplifying false motives. They dont care for Dillon who shouldnt have been killed. They just want to deflect from this situation. After whites treatment of blacks, you expect them to RALLY behind a white cause? Honestly?

See if people were SMART, they would do that. They would unite and be behind each others causes. We all want peace. We all want food, clothing and shelter. But we do not unite together. We're divided behind color and religion and money and status etc... People are just too blind to see it. You too. But in that story, you expect blacks to RALLY behind a white cause?(Since you're suggesting its a "white cause" because it was a "white kid"). Did whites RALLY behind Trayvon? Mike Brown? Look at the whites in here demonizing an 18 year old kid without knowing ANYTHING about him other than he stole some cigars, pushed a storeowner and got murdered. And off that, read the posts in here and explain to me why you think blacks should rally behind what they and you perceive as a white cause?
Flygerian

Dallas, TX

#1660 Aug 27, 2014
Toby wrote:
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Either busy yourself with rationalizations(excuses) or busy yourself with promoting self determination and individual responsibility, one method is actually conducive of real progress while the other is basically self defeating, self loathing in many ways. And a Hindu will say Krishna is real, a Muslim will say Muhammad is real, and if a horse could talk and reason the horse would say God is naturally a horse, like Xenophanes said -
"But if cattle and horses and lions had hands ,or could paint with their hands and create works such as men do,horses like horses and cattle like cattle,also would depict the gods' shapes and make their bodies of such a sort as the form they themselves have."
Ethiopians say that their gods are snub┬ľnosed and black
Thracians that they are pale and red-haired."
Who cares? All of those gods are created lol.

Why would someone worship a god that was created?
Flygerian

Dallas, TX

#1661 Aug 27, 2014
Toby wrote:
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My life theology sounds genuine, but subjectively everyone experiences a different life, some believe in different Gods, some no God or Gods at all. So your God is not just God but God almighty, does the almighty part accentuate authenticity?
Nope. Just that I worship the Eternal God. The Source of All things in existence...

This Being, is ALMIGHTY....
Toby

Eugene, OR

#1663 Aug 27, 2014
I'm reading "The Price of Inequality" haven't finished it, but it's an excellent book. It's written by Joseph Stiglitz, concerning economic inequality for the most part. I recommend it for anyone, its available online also.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#1664 Aug 27, 2014
Sad story wrote:
Wow!! This is not even about Mr. Brown at all. I do not blame others for what has happened in history because it is not the fault of people today. I had a very poor childhood with every opportunity to turn to the streets, to lie, to steal, to join gangs. But guess what?, I did not. I have earned everything I have and believe me their have been times that I have been beat down, stole from, lied on and cheated out of many things but I don't blame any race. My blaming is indivual not a whole race. We want Justice, we want peace, we want something, well what about what these two families wanted yes two families. This has turned into let's gain instead of let's be a whole community who lifts one another up. Seriously looting will help how? Any upper hand for justice that community has is being discredited every day by people of all races out for themselves. We don't need media, Jesse Jackson, the news, or any other race help group. What we need is God!!! I am sorry for both families involved in this situation no matter of the wrong doing on either side. Those two were both valued members of a family!
Great post!
Amen!
WE definitely NEED GOD back in OUR Country.

Moral decay is all you see anymore, on TV, billboards, ads, etc ...

America is "going down the drain" without Him.
Plus it would help if WE had some 'leadership'

WE have 'none' in D.C.
In my humble and honest opinion.
-~-
Flygerian

Dallas, TX

#1665 Aug 27, 2014
guest wrote:
Racism has been around since the days of jesus and will always be around long after we're gone....no two races will ever get along cause we think different believe different and acton things different...that is why there is so much more racism in america than any other country we have more different nationalities than anywhere else in the world....so racism is not going to stop and if you think it ever will then your living in a dream land....racism exsist in every race white black mexican chinese it dont matter what race you are its there.....
Replace racism with "lying" and you have the same. We should let that be okay too right? How about replacing racism with "murder"? That has been around since the days of "Jesus" too. Should we let that slide as well? What if we replace that word with "rape". Should we let it slide as well?

Life is simply about overcoming the evil we're faced with. Choosing good over evil. That applies to "racism" too. And I originally said that theres no such thing as "reverse racism". What I meant is that the "racism" that blacks are often faced with, are not on the level of the "racism" that blacks give to whites.

But as I said, racists do not want to have honest conversations (applies to any race). They want to discuss things that confirm their biases.
Truth Teller

Ripley, TN

#1666 Aug 27, 2014
obvious wrote:
The child he shot who was unarmed . Visit www.facebook.com/copblock
Fu ck the police state .
The "child"? This wasn't some 6 year old kid playing in the dirt. This was an 18 year old who was 6'4" and weighted around 290 lbs! He had just come from stealing a carton of cigars & roughing up the store owner. He was a punk who was walking in the midle of the street at night & refused to get on the sidewalk when told to. He was a straight up thug.
Flygerian

Dallas, TX

#1668 Aug 27, 2014
Toby wrote:
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When a retort begins with ad hominem, the argument is already lost, personal insults don't invalidate an argument, or the premise of an argument. Tisk tisk tisk
I agree. And thats exactly what he did by calling me a "goofball" before I turned it on him.
Toby

Eugene, OR

#1669 Aug 27, 2014
Flygerian wrote:
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Who cares? All of those gods are created lol.
Why would someone worship a god that was created?
Religion is a crapshoot, and honestly adherents to other religions would make the exact same comment. An anthropomorphic God is usually created, so are you saying the Abrahamic religions and Gods aren't anthropomorphic?
toilet paper

Torrance, CA

#1672 Aug 27, 2014
Oh ah bank red lining gi 85% loans issued to white 40s black soldiers wear uniform jome get lynched/murdered for nothing
Pops

Dayton, OH

#1675 Aug 27, 2014
Flygerian wrote:
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False....
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You dont remember the former black leaders that stood up for blacks? MLK? MalcolmX? Huey Newton? What do these men have in common? They were TAKEN out the way... Take a look at cointelpro if you'd like...
cointelpro ?? Pls explain that.
I do remember those people. What connection does that have to do with my post?

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