College of Santa Fe students take the...

College of Santa Fe students take the stage for their bitterswe...

There are 30 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from May 3, 2009, titled College of Santa Fe students take the stage for their bitterswe.... In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

Photo: John Weckesser, head of performing arts at the College of Santa Fe, speaks to the tearful cast of Sweet Charity on Sunday afternoon, after the schoola TMs last performance at Greer Garson Theatre.

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Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#22 May 4, 2009

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#23 May 4, 2009
Mary wrote:
Do you have to be be a gay male to think this is news?
No! Old Rednecks can relate.
That JoW Blow

Rio Rancho, NM

#24 May 4, 2009
CSF Grad wrote:
JoW: In another posting you recently thought that the anguish of one student's parent was funny. Life will go on for that family in one way or another, but right now they have been left hanging. It may not be a full blown tragedy, but it's hardly funny.
You also disparaged Saint Michael's/CSF as a school, in spite of the innumerable teachers, managers, doctors, business owners, accountants, lawyers and yes, writers, poets, artists and film makers which it has produced.
Until the school got off track and went down an "Arts are the be all and end all" path, it served Santa Fe and much of the rest of this country admirably.
I feel sorry that your anti-government myopia blinds you to the positive things which graduates of the school have done for Santa Fe and other communities.
If an effort had been made to get the school back to its roots, it might have been salvaged. But, I haven't seen any positive ideas come from the local naysayers. Only simplistic "Just say No to everything" mentality. Much like the teabaggers of last month.
JoW, also known as HWY285 and by his porn name Dick Gozinya, disparages everything. When he can't find something to disparage he probably goes outside and disparages a rock just to make himself feel worthy. He obviously has a pathetic little life and exists only to trash people and anything else of topic. His cr appy and negative attitude is a dead give away. He can't even hide by changing his name. Oh, and he thinks he's funny. Imagine that.
LOL

Rio Rancho, NM

#25 May 4, 2009
Mary wrote:
Do you have to be be a gay male to think this is news?
Ask JoW, he would know!
Luina

Santa Fe, NM

#26 May 4, 2009
That JoW Blow wrote:
<quoted text>JoW, also known as HWY285 and by his porn name Dick Gozinya, disparages everything. When he can't find something to disparage he probably goes outside and disparages a rock just to make himself feel worthy. He obviously has a pathetic little life and exists only to trash people and anything else of topic. His cr appy and negative attitude is a dead give away. He can't even hide by changing his name. Oh, and he thinks he's funny. Imagine that.
I think you need a sense of humor to understand him. You losers, get your panties all bound up while he laughs last. My guess is you are an "older" lady, retired in SF, few friends, probably in a condo, drives a Subaru, eats before 5pm most nights, wine comes in a box.... ouch!
Kay Male

Santa Fe, NM

#27 May 4, 2009
Yes.
LMAO

Rio Rancho, NM

#28 May 4, 2009
Luina wrote:
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I think you need a sense of humor to understand him. You losers, get your panties all bound up while he laughs last. My guess is you are an "older" lady, retired in SF, few friends, probably in a condo, drives a Subaru, eats before 5pm most nights, wine comes in a box.... ouch!
Yeah, whatever you say JoW, oh, excuse me Luina. I think it would probably take a dark, disturbed mind to understand you. LOL!
Carol Carpenter

Rio Rancho, NM

#29 May 5, 2009
Sending all CSF students, staff, faculty, alums and friends love, fond memories and warm wishes. To the naysayers who think that only professions that generate substantial income streams matter: theatre grads are known for becoming highly successful salespeople, promoters, event and production managers, real estate brokers, and communications directors. They have a knack for talking, a knack for charming, and a knack for organizing and producing. That equates to a knack for RAISING MONEY and you would be lucky to hire them. But how sad that our culture has come to a place where it can only appreciate people for their degree of economic impact and can only value education for its direct vocational application - there was a time when the "liberal arts" was central to our understanding of education's role in society. My hats go off to those who are braver than I and choose to pursue art for the sake of art. My heart goes out to those of you who are too power-obsessed to appreciate it. Go ahead, cut and paste that last sentence into your reply and shout away -- I'll be smiling with the others who have been enriched by CSF. Sail on my friends!
santos

United States

#30 May 5, 2009
Carol Carpenter wrote:
Sending all CSF students, staff, faculty, alums and friends love, fond memories and warm wishes. To the naysayers who think that only professions that generate substantial income streams matter: theatre grads are known for becoming highly successful salespeople, promoters, event and production managers, real estate brokers, and communications directors. They have a knack for talking, a knack for charming, and a knack for organizing and producing. That equates to a knack for RAISING MONEY and you would be lucky to hire them. But how sad that our culture has come to a place where it can only appreciate people for their degree of economic impact and can only value education for its direct vocational application - there was a time when the "liberal arts" was central to our understanding of education's role in society. My hats go off to those who are braver than I and choose to pursue art for the sake of art. My heart goes out to those of you who are too power-obsessed to appreciate it. Go ahead, cut and paste that last sentence into your reply and shout away -- I'll be smiling with the others who have been enriched by CSF. Sail on my friends!
Dear Ms. Carpenter:

I doubt that anyone is happy by the events at College of Santa Fe.

As an outside observer, I have been amazed by the unfortunate course of events that have occurred.

I think that the community would be happy to see a successful organization take over the remains of CSF, whether in bankruptcy or some other form.

In any event, I hope that CSF is still a school, and not a business park, and that there is a competent, and apolitical group of qualified Trustees to steer the resultant Institution forward.

Educational Institutions are what make civilization superior to all other forms of human collectives, including, religious, tribal, and ethnic affiliations.

I wish the CSF grads and transfers great success.
Brian Danker

San Francisco, CA

#31 May 11, 2009
In 1973 I had just gotten out of the army, after having had served for 4 years and had done a tour in Viet Nam. I followed my friends from a New York city neighborhood, to an unknown hole in the wall, called the College of Santa Fe. It was the best decision of my life.I started the spring of 1974 and rested my head in the st.michaels dorm. I was befriended by the TKE'S and I learned to become a college student. My grades may have been bad, but I used my experience to grow. I even preformed on stage with the actors in the play "Guys and Dolls". I fell in Love with the school and to this day I still visit Santa Fe every two years.Four orginal friends still lives in the "Fe" Jim Phelan and his wife Molly are grads of the school, and are still unpaid teachers in Santa Fe, and
Kevin Gately and his wife Rene.

THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO never ever knows how to do things right. If they dont save the College, then an injustice will have been done to all the kids who came to Santa Fe to experience, the region, the school, and to grow up.The town of Santa Fe will not be as beatutiful and the vistors will be less.The town and the state have a chance to invest in the furture. Please keep the school and make it actractive for kids who are seeking adventure and willing travel out west to have that adventure, and a education, in that place that is just a, "hole in the wall town call Santa Fe".
Brian Danker

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