False claims and dirty tricks

False claims and dirty tricks

There are 14 comments on the Long Beach Press-Telegram story from Oct 25, 2010, titled False claims and dirty tricks. In it, Long Beach Press-Telegram reports that:

Don't believe everything you see in your mailbox. All across California mailboxes have been filling up with colorful, glossy mailers pushing this candidate or bad mouthing that one.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Long Beach Press-Telegram.

Vote Against Unions

Long Beach, CA

#1 Oct 26, 2010
I have a simple voter's guide. Vote the opposite of teachers unions and the police/firefighters unions.
Pangloss

Westminster, CA

#2 Oct 26, 2010
Is there a legal restriction on what paid campaign staff can do to promote their candidate in the final week before election? I'm thinking especially "online."

Anyone know?
Unions Support Brown

Long Beach, CA

#3 Oct 26, 2010
Public Employee Unions support Jerry Brown because he will give them more money, less work, higher pensions, early retirement. Working people (and their children and grandchildren) will pay for it. What are "working" people going to do when Brown drives all the jobs out of California? We can't ALL be on welfare, can we?

Maybe your editorial ought to address Brown's last minute accusations about allegations regarding Meg Whitman's son. This is how democrats run for office. Last minute smears. This is the same type of rubbish that the LATimes printed to help Gray Davis... oh yeah, Jerry Brown's chief of staff.

Who knows best about the low level of intellect of democrat voters?
No way jose

Huntington Beach, CA

#4 Oct 26, 2010
If Californians are stupid enough to keep electing Democrats to office they deserve what they get....It will soon be a moot point because any person not belonging to a union or employed by the city or state will be moving out......run for your lives taxpayers.
Paul Roscoe

Bellflower, CA

#7 Oct 26, 2010
The Unions paid for those Mailers and have really ratcheted up the Hate and Lies this campaign season. They have much at stake.
Complete Gov't Emp Union ownership of both the Gov and the Leg. will give them the power to destroy the financial future of non union tax payers and do irreputable long term damage to California.

Since: May 09

Seal Beach, CA

#8 Oct 26, 2010
Vote Against Unions wrote:
I have a simple voter's guide. Vote the opposite of teachers unions and the police/firefighters unions.
Yes, because teachers, policemen and firefighters are just so horrible and menaces to society.
OldGuysRule

Long Beach, CA

#9 Oct 26, 2010
RW Crum wrote:
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Yes, because teachers, policemen and firefighters are just so horrible and menaces to society.
That was the first logical thing I have heard your say in a long time.
Concerned American

Bakersfield, CA

#10 Oct 26, 2010
Vote Against Unions wrote:
I have a simple voter's guide. Vote the opposite of teachers unions and the police/firefighters unions.
I couldn't agree with you more. In California, any candidate or proposition that has the Big Union label will not get my vote. My opinion has absolutely nothing to do with the individuals that make up these various unions, many of whom disagree with their leadership and are forced to belong to the union to keeps their jobs, but to the thug leadership that will do anything possible to fatten their own bank accounts regardless of how it effects the State or local governments. It's time people in this State voted for the biggest special interest of them all, the legal citizens of California.
michael

Long Beach, CA

#11 Oct 26, 2010
RW Crum wrote:
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Yes, because teachers, policemen and firefighters are just so horrible and menaces to society.
wow you got it right police and firemen are horrible and menaces to society your finally getting it.brake the unions get real police and firemen that work for the people and care what happens to this city and state.they are the biggest danger.
Pangloss

Perris, CA

#12 Oct 27, 2010
Things to do:

Verify that none of the candidates I support pose with UNION Police or Firemen in their campaign material and mailers.

REAL Police or Firemen, s'alright.
Pangloss

Perris, CA

#13 Oct 27, 2010
Pangloss wrote:
Is there a legal restriction on what paid campaign staff can do to promote their candidate in the final week before election? I'm thinking especially "online."
Anyone know?
CALIFORNIA FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION - SUBCOMMITTEE ON INTERNET POLITICAL ACTIVITY

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/long-beach-...
Samual Jonas

Long Beach, CA

#14 Oct 27, 2010
Concerned American wrote:
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I couldn't agree with you more. In California, any candidate or proposition that has the Big Union label will not get my vote. My opinion has absolutely nothing to do with the individuals that make up these various unions, many of whom disagree with their leadership and are forced to belong to the union to keeps their jobs, but to the thug leadership that will do anything possible to fatten their own bank accounts regardless of how it effects the State or local governments. It's time people in this State voted for the biggest special interest of them all, the legal citizens of California.
Looking at the BIG picture, Jerry Brown's election may save America. We know that Total UnionCrat control of our State will destroy our State and we are too stupid to stop it.

As long as the citizens in other States come to realize that the malignant choice to surrender to the State Pub Emp Unions was the Cancer that Killed California then America will be better for it.
BearFlagFan

Carlsbad, CA

#15 Oct 28, 2010
I got this mailer. To me its all about getting certain propositions passed, and they're willing to let some votes go Republican just to assure passage of a close proposition. If you look at the candidates, they all make sense: Meg Whitman, Abel Maldonado, Steve Cooley, all the well-known Republicans.

But if you read the Propositions, the endorsements mirror the position of the California Democratic Party endorsements. Examples (R = California Republican Party endorsement; D = California Democratic Party endorsement; CRR = the 'Continuing the Republican Revolution' voter guide.)

Prop 20 - R yes; D no; CRR no
Prop 21 - R no; D yes; CRR yes
Prop 23 - R yes; D no; CRR no
Prop 24 - R no; D yes; CRR yes
Prop 25 - R no; D yes; CRR yes
Prop 26 - R yes; D no; CRR no
Prop 27 - R no; D yes; CRR yes

It is really deceptive. They even use a replica of the GOP elephant logo, except it only has 2 stars instead of the official logo that has 3 stars.

Its incredible that this has not gotten wider attention
PatBryant

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Oct 28, 2010
Seems an awful lot like Long Beach politics leading up to the most recent election last April. A lot of FALSE CLAIMS and DIRTY TRICKS since them. I wonder what percentage of pre-election endorsements would have changed knowing now it panned out?

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