Who will stand up to Limbaugh?

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Frank

United States

#1 Nov 14, 2009
Republicans Are Shocked The Public Is Mad At Them For Voting Against Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment

Last month, 30 Republican senators voted against Sen. Al Franken’s (D-MN) amendment that would punish defense contractors “if they restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.” His amendment was inspired by Jamie Leigh Jones, who was gang-raped by her co-workers while working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad in 2005, and then had to fight her employer for justice.

The GOP senators who sided with defense contractors at the expense of women — such as John Thune (SD)— have been facing an intense backlash. David Vitter (LA) refused to give a rape victim a straight answer when she confronted him about his vote, claiming that he is “absolutely supportive of any [rape] case like that being prosecuted criminally to the full extent of the law.”

Politico reports that Republicans are now scratching their heads at why the public is so incensed about their “no” votes:

Privately, GOP sources acknowledge that they failed to anticipate the political consequences of a “no” vote on the amendment. And several aides said that Republicans are engaged in an internal blame game about why they agreed to a roll-call vote on the measure, rather than a simple voice vote that would have allowed the opposing senators to duck criticism.

As BarbinMD writes,“Seriously? They voted against an amendment that was prompted by the brutal gang-rape of a young woman by her co-workers while she was working for a company under contract for the United States government, after which she was locked in a shipping container without food or water, threatened if she left to seek medical treatment, and was then prevented from bringing criminal charges against her assailants. And they failed to anticipate the political consequences?”

Thune is also claiming that Franken doesn’t really care about Jones and other rape victims whose employers have blocked them from seeking justice; he and other Democrats just wanted to “create a vote which they could use to attack Republicans.”

So basically, the only lesson they learned is that next time, they have to hide their votes when they decide to screw over women’s rights. That way, they can support their allies in the contracting business and the public will never find out
From thinkprogress.org
Bob

United States

#2 Nov 14, 2009
Who will stand up to Limbaugh??? Why on earth would anyone in the media worry about Rush Limbaugh? Hes just a talk radio commentator with absolutely no power over our Government. Worry about our socialist president, hes the one who is flushing our Constitution down the toilet.
James Howard

AOL

#3 Nov 14, 2009
Bob...further to your allegation concerning the Constitution and the President could you by chance share with us even one example that we can verify for accuracy, preferably one that you did not obtain from a fox network opinion show?
Drink The Hive

Orlando, FL

#4 Nov 14, 2009
Massive Attack,Trip-Hope Began.

2/2=0
Dode Penrod

Lakewood, CA

#5 Nov 14, 2009
Quick note to Frank: If you take the time to copy something and paste it to an e-mail or your word processor, you will have an opportunity to edit out those strange symbols which detract from your posts. Then once more copy the corrected piece and paste it to Topix.

Thanks for all the important things you give us.
Scholar

Redding, CA

#6 Nov 14, 2009
Obama = Hitler bothers you, Jamison? The entire period of the Bush presidency constituted similar bombardment with similar statements from his opponents. Were you incensed when moveon.org did their Bush = Hitler ads? The left was MERCILESS with this sort of stuff throughout his presidency. You can google "Bush is Hitler" and get over 1.5 million hits, over 6.5 thousand images of GW with a little moustache.

O'Neill made similar Nazi references to Bush all the time back then. He still does so today, God love him - they've become his conversation fillers, sort of like the rest of us use "you know", or "uh-huh", and he can't seem to shake them.
Frank

United States

#7 Nov 14, 2009
Dode Penrod wrote:
Quick note to Frank: If you take the time to copy something and paste it to an e-mail or your word processor, you will have an opportunity to edit out those strange symbols which detract from your posts. Then once more copy the corrected piece and paste it to Topix.
Thanks for all the important things you give us.
Thanks for the tip Dode. I hate it when that happens.
Disgusted

Paradise, CA

#8 Nov 14, 2009
Scollar, As long as Frank, O'neill and others, are bashing the republicans, Bush, Limbaugh, et el., they don't have to face what is going on now with their "PP",(perfect president). Have you noticed, not one of them is talking about the terrorist attack that O'bama is responsible for.
And he has been in office longer than Bush when he
was blamed for 9-11. To make it worse, Obama runs
away so he doesn't have to answer to why HE allowed that terrorist attack at an army base, on his watch. As for why some of us watch FOX News; it's the only station that will give us anything except the OBAMA approved line. Come to think of it; that's why you dems don't want anyone to watch it. Keep bashing Fox; they are laughing all the way to the bank!!
Curtis Winshuler

Paradise, CA

#9 Nov 14, 2009
None of the republicans have the courage to stand up to Limbaugh, they're all afraid of him. The guy is nothing but a two-timing, cheating, sleaze-bag junkie and all of the two-timing, cheating, sleaze-bag republicans are afraid of him. It's unbelievably pathetic...
Bob

United States

#10 Nov 14, 2009
"Bob...further to your allegation concerning the Constitution and the President could you by chance share with us even one example that we can verify for accuracy, preferably one that you did not obtain from a fox network opinion show?"

Are you afraid of the facts that are presented on Fox News? Oh, I get it - you actually follow the one and only Keith (I like little boys) Olbermann down the path of righteousness and the truth be damned.
Curtis Winshuler

Paradise, CA

#11 Nov 14, 2009
Disgusted wrote:
Scollar, As long as Frank, O'neill and others, are bashing the republicans, Bush, Limbaugh, et el., they don't have to face what is going on now with their "PP",(perfect president). Have you noticed, not one of them is talking about the terrorist attack that O'bama is responsible for.
And he has been in office longer than Bush when he
was blamed for 9-11. To make it worse, Obama runs
away so he doesn't have to answer to why HE allowed that terrorist attack at an army base, on his watch. As for why some of us watch FOX News; it's the only station that will give us anything except the OBAMA approved line. Come to think of it; that's why you dems don't want anyone to watch it. Keep bashing Fox; they are laughing all the way to the bank!!
When did this alleged terrorist join the military Mr. Disgusted? It was during the Bush boondoggle. I think he probably should have been vetted during Bush's watch. Nice try though.
Glasnos

Orlando, FL

#12 Nov 14, 2009
Frank wrote:
Republicans Are Shocked The Public Is Mad At Them For Voting Against Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment
Last month, 30 Republican senators voted against Sen. Al Franken’s (D-MN) amendment that would punish defense contractors “if they restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.” His amendment was inspired by Jamie Leigh Jones, who was gang-raped by her co-workers while working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad in 2005, and then had to fight her employer for justice.
The GOP senators who sided with defense contractors at the expense of women — such as John Thune (SD)— have been facing an intense backlash. David Vitter (LA) refused to give a rape victim a straight answer when she confronted him about his vote, claiming that he is “absolutely supportive of any [rape] case like that being prosecuted criminally to the full extent of the law.”
Politico reports that Republicans are now scratching their heads at why the public is so incensed about their “no” votes:
Privately, GOP sources acknowledge that they failed to anticipate the political consequences of a “no” vote on the amendment. And several aides said that Republicans are engaged in an internal blame game about why they agreed to a roll-call vote on the measure, rather than a simple voice vote that would have allowed the opposing senators to duck criticism.
As BarbinMD writes,“Seriously? They voted against an amendment that was prompted by the brutal gang-rape of a young woman by her co-workers while she was working for a company under contract for the United States government, after which she was locked in a shipping container without food or water, threatened if she left to seek medical treatment, and was then prevented from bringing criminal charges against her assailants. And they failed to anticipate the political consequences?”
Thune is also claiming that Franken doesn’t really care about Jones and other rape victims whose employers have blocked them from seeking justice; he and other Democrats just wanted to “create a vote which they could use to attack Republicans.”
So basically, the only lesson they learned is that next time, they have to hide their votes when they decide to screw over women’s rights. That way, they can support their allies in the contracting business and the public will never find out
From thinkprogress.org
Pssst ... hey dude ... the democrats do not need a single republican vote to pass anything they want. So how does it become the republican's fault?...
Ah yes ... democrats accept no responsibility ... sorry I forgot the democrat playground rules.
So when are we going to elect some adults?
Observing

United States

#13 Nov 14, 2009
James Howard wrote:
Bob...further to your allegation concerning the Constitution and the President could you by chance share with us even one example that we can verify for accuracy, preferably one that you did not obtain from a fox network opinion show?
James Howard, I challenge you to listen to Rush for one solid week. Listen without bias on your mind.

I further challenge you to watch FOX news as much as you can for one week.

I believe if you are honest with your assessment, you will agree that Rush provides valid opinions and view points on all topics he addresses on his radio shows. Sure, he is to the right otherwise, you wouldn't be critical of his program. But, just "hear him out" for one week.

Further, you should see that FOX news provides middle of the road news coverage without a left slant or a right slant. No comments from me about the other news outlets!

Give it a try!......... don't take the word of those who just critize! See for yourself!
Buford

United States

#14 Nov 14, 2009
Jack wrote, "McCarthy conducted an anti-Communist crusade in the early 1950s in which he made unfounded charges that many people in government were "card-carrying Communists."

But did McCarthy's accusations end up to be "unfounded?"

I wonder if Jack has heard of, or for that matter, read about what was known as the Venona Project? For years McCarthy was accused of spreading false claims because of his accusations alleging the communist party had infiltrated all the way up to and within the inner workings of the Roosevelt and Truman White Houses. Does old Jack here know if those accusations were proven or disproved as the historical onion has been pealed away?

Jack should look up the name Alger HIss, and then when he's done reading about the man, read about what the Venona Project says about Mr. Hiss. For that matter perhaps old Jack'l should read what Patrick Moynihan had to say about what people from the left continue to call a witch hunt regarding what they call McCarthyism.

It was around 1990 after the fall of the Soviet Union that Russia released boatloads of intelligence including what came to be known as the Decrypted Soviet Cables (these cables proved beyond all doubt Hiss was a Soviet spy). There were a few honest Democrats and a few historical scholars who actually took the time to analyze all of the evidence -- from the Pumpkin Papers to the charges of a Whitaker Chambers -- regarding the ability of the Soviets to cozy up so close to two presidents.

Unfortunately all of these charges are simply dismissed and to this day McCarthy remains a vilified maniac while they claim his accusations were “unfounded” and “controversial.” I’ll finish by saying “controversial” means telling the truth about liberals.

I didn't hear Rush call Obama a "communist" but did hear him call him a "Marxist" and a "Socialist," and since I listen daily to Rushbo for my marching orders I'll assume that must be what old Jack'l is talking about.

Perhaps Jack should question the accuracy of Rush's words after he researches his own about McCarthy.

.
Frank

United States

#15 Nov 14, 2009
Why Are Hawkish Lawmakers Willing To Pay For An Escalation Of The War But Not For Health Care?

In recent days, heated policy discussions in Washington have largely focused on two topics: a possible escalation of the war in Afghanistan and health care legislation. Both a troop escalation and health care legislation carry significant price tags: roughly $100 billion and $80-$100 billion a year respectively.(It should be noted that health care reform, unlike a troop surge, would cut the deficit.)
In his New York Times column today, columnist Nicholas Kristof asks why hawks claim health reform is “fiscally irresponsible” while enthusiastically supporting a troop surge in Afghanistan, given the fact that fixing our broken health care system is, unlike a troop surge, essential to the health and well-being of Americans:
The health care legislation pays for itself, according to the Congressional Budget Office, while the deployment in Afghanistan is unfinanced and will raise our budget deficits and undermine our long-term economic security.
So doesn’t it seem odd to hear hawks say that health reform is fiscally irresponsible, while in the next breath they cheer a larger deployment of troops in Afghanistan?
Meanwhile, lack of health insurance kills about 45,000 Americans a year, according to a Harvard study released in September. So which is the greater danger to our homeland security, the Taliban or our dysfunctional insurance system?
Indeed, hawkish legislators have lined up to both demand a costly surge in U.S. troops in Afghanistan while at the same time claiming that deficit-cutting health care legislation would simply be too expensive:

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#16 Nov 14, 2009
Rush is a WHOLE lot smrater than Obama will ever be. I think everyone can agree on that. I also think Rush tells the truth a whole lot more than Obama. I KNOW everybody agrees with me on that. What I can't understand is "Why is Obama president and where the heck did he come from?"
Frank

United States

#17 Nov 14, 2009
I tried Dode. Sorry.

If you click on the blue word it will take you to the site that has the article.

thinkprogress.org

Since: Oct 08

none

#18 Nov 14, 2009
Observing wrote:
<quoted text>
James Howard, I challenge you to listen to Rush for one solid week. Listen without bias on your mind.
I tried I really tried, I got sick of his ego though and I caught him lying a couple times.

Beck I didn't mind though, he did pretty good.
Buford

United States

#19 Nov 14, 2009
Just to show you how things and people remain the same over time, Hiss was called before HUAC (House Un-American Activities Committee) and while "entertaining" some of the questions, he interrupted the proceedings and said, "May I interrupt at this point, because I take it this will take more than 10 or 15 minutes. Would it be possible for one of the members of the committee to call the Harvard Club and leave word that I won't be there for a 6 o'clock appointment?"

Hiss was an elitist "Harvard man" and much like our current elitist "Harvard man" in office doesn't want any of us to forget it...

Since: Oct 08

none

#20 Nov 14, 2009
Buford wrote:
Jack wrote, "McCarthy conducted an anti-Communist crusade in the early 1950s in which he made unfounded charges that many people in government were "card-carrying Communists."
But did McCarthy's accusations end up to be "unfounded?"
I wonder if Jack has heard of, or for that matter, read about what was known as the Venona Project? For years McCarthy was accused of spreading false claims because of his accusations alleging the communist party had infiltrated all the way up to and within the inner workings of the Roosevelt and Truman White Houses. Does old Jack here know if those accusations were proven or disproved as the historical onion has been pealed away?
Jack should look up the name Alger HIss, and then when he's done reading about the man, read about what the Venona Project says about Mr. Hiss. For that matter perhaps old Jack'l should read what Patrick Moynihan had to say about what people from the left continue to call a witch hunt regarding what they call McCarthyism.
It was around 1990 after the fall of the Soviet Union that Russia released boatloads of intelligence including what came to be known as the Decrypted Soviet Cables (these cables proved beyond all doubt Hiss was a Soviet spy). There were a few honest Democrats and a few historical scholars who actually took the time to analyze all of the evidence -- from the Pumpkin Papers to the charges of a Whitaker Chambers -- regarding the ability of the Soviets to cozy up so close to two presidents.
Unfortunately all of these charges are simply dismissed and to this day McCarthy remains a vilified maniac while they claim his accusations were “unfounded” and “controversial.” I’ll finish by saying “controversial” means telling the truth about liberals.
I didn't hear Rush call Obama a "communist" but did hear him call him a "Marxist" and a "Socialist," and since I listen daily to Rushbo for my marching orders I'll assume that must be what old Jack'l is talking about.
Perhaps Jack should question the accuracy of Rush's words after he researches his own about McCarthy.
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Firstly, pre-WWII and during the time period we weren't in a "Cold War" with the Soviets and for the most part we ignored each other and were allied.

Secondly can you tell me when it was declared that Communism was illegal?

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