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“Pastor John Hagee is not an important man. Pastor John Hagee is a great man!”

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June Pedigo

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Jun 16, 2007
 
With respect, i dare to tell you, Mr Hagee to consider what you speak to God's people. You will have no doubt led many to Juesus Christ and you will get credit for that in the Kingdom of God. How ever you will also be held accountable before God for the many saints who will fall away and reject God because they have to go through any tribulation. Those people will say you lied and therefore God lied and reject our Lord as false. Stop teaching the Pre rapture theory. It is not of God and was not even tought before the 1800's. Itching ear preaching. Jesus said the student is not greater than the teacher. If they hated Juesus they will hate you! God said get rid of that fairy tale least you suffer the consquences and wrath of God. I pray you have ears to hear. You have cause many to believe a lie.
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i most certainly agee with the comments on the above page. you are miss leading the American people and the church. You should never agee with the satanic plot that our govermentneeds to bomb a country that has never attacked us.
Jesus, said turn the other cheek. The body of christ is sick because of people like yourself that defends corrupt goverments like israel. John Haggee you should just resign if you take the side of our SATANIC goverment the misleads lies and take sides with the agendas of the CFR(council of foreign relations in case you dont know)spend sometime in your prayer closet mister hagee. And cut off ties with your israeli interest. THEY ARE NOT OF GOD!!!!!!
saftyo29

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Jul 28, 2007
 
On sat.28th i heard pastor hagee mention a tape
called ( against all odds } this tape is about isreal. how can i obtain copy of this tape.
American

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Jul 28, 2007
 
June Pedigo wrote:
With respect, i dare to tell you, Mr Hagee to consider what you speak to God's people. You will have no doubt led many to Juesus Christ and you will get credit for that in the Kingdom of God. How ever you will also be held accountable before God for the many saints who will fall away and reject God because they have to go through any tribulation. Those people will say you lied and therefore God lied and reject our Lord as false. Stop teaching the Pre rapture theory. It is not of God and was not even tought before the 1800's. Itching ear preaching. Jesus said the student is not greater than the teacher. If they hated Juesus they will hate you! God said get rid of that fairy tale least you suffer the consquences and wrath of God. I pray you have ears to hear. You have cause many to believe a lie.
You need to read your Bible (a real one not a modern paraphrased false one). If you had you would know by His Word and the confirmation of His Holy Spirit that the Rapture can take place at any time. And also if you knew your Bible as a women you would not be trying to take authority over a minister of the Lord but remain silent as commanded by the Scriptures. You in error before the Lord and His Church.
American

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Jul 28, 2007
 
jimbo wrote:
i most certainly agee with the comments on the above page. you are miss leading the American people and the church. You should never agee with the satanic plot that our govermentneeds to bomb a country that has never attacked us.
Jesus, said turn the other cheek. The body of christ is sick because of people like yourself that defends corrupt goverments like israel. John Haggee you should just resign if you take the side of our SATANIC goverment the misleads lies and take sides with the agendas of the CFR(council of foreign relations in case you dont know)spend sometime in your prayer closet mister hagee. And cut off ties with your israeli interest. THEY ARE NOT OF GOD!!!!!!
You should read the Bible also because you do not have a clue what you are talking about. So sad.
RuLookingUp

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Jul 30, 2007
 
June Pedigo wrote:
With respect, i dare to tell you, Mr Hagee to consider what you speak to God's people. You will have no doubt led many to Juesus Christ and you will get credit for that in the Kingdom of God. How ever you will also be held accountable before God for the many saints who will fall away and reject God because they have to go through any tribulation. Those people will say you lied and therefore God lied and reject our Lord as false. Stop teaching the Pre rapture theory. It is not of God and was not even tought before the 1800's. Itching ear preaching. Jesus said the student is not greater than the teacher. If they hated Juesus they will hate you! God said get rid of that fairy tale least you suffer the consquences and wrath of God. I pray you have ears to hear. You have cause many to believe a lie.
June... and you are "right"???? because YOU THINK you are...???? Step back a step and see what you are saying. You need to do more research... What you are saying is not even historically accurate. Do a little more study. I am not saying pretrib is right. But before you judge at least be intelligent about it...
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A. N. FIELD, in Today's Greatest Problem

"Once the Jewishness of Bolshevism is understood, its otherwise puzzling features become understandable. Hatred of Christianity, for instance, is not a Russian characteristic; it is a Jewish one."
call it like it is

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John Hagee promotes hatred and intolerance and should be locked up.
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saftyo29 wrote:
On sat.28th i heard pastor hagee mention a tape
called ( against all odds } this tape is about isreal. how can i obtain copy of this tape.
As with most this false prophet's teachings, for a love gift of only 39.95 to the number on your screen.
Someone said 'ole John only makes about 1.25 Mil./year so I'm sure he could use the money.
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Who Controls Hollywood Today?
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The Jewish Post And Opinion of December 6, 1974 states: "Jews dominate Hollywood today as they did in its infancy, The Jewish presence in Hollywood is a historic fact, A majority of the producers and directors are Jewish while the Writers Guild is practically 70% to 100% Jewish!"
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June Pedigo wrote:
With respect, i dare to tell you, Mr Hagee to consider what you speak to God's people. You will have no doubt led many to Juesus Christ and you will get credit for that in the Kingdom of God. How ever you will also be held accountable before God for the many saints who will fall away and reject God because they have to go through any tribulation. Those people will say you lied and therefore God lied and reject our Lord as false. Stop teaching the Pre rapture theory. It is not of God and was not even tought before the 1800's. Itching ear preaching. Jesus said the student is not greater than the teacher. If they hated Juesus they will hate you! God said get rid of that fairy tale least you suffer the consquences and wrath of God. I pray you have ears to hear. You have cause many to believe a lie.
First off read the Whole Bible not just the parts you like. And start with this one.

1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1Co 14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
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Oct 12, 2007
 
DON'T CAST YOUR PEARLS BEFORE SWINE. FOR ALL THOSE TRYING TO CONVINCE ONE ANOTHER. FORGET IT. LET'S JUST WAIT AND SEE WHO IS RIGHT. AS FOR ME, I WILL KEEP FOLLOWING JC.CYA IN THE SKY OR IN THE TRIB, ALL DEPENDING WHO'S RIGHT.
Dolores Holstein

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Oct 22, 2007
 
can you mix oil with water? I don't thank so, so why try. There is an example of such.When Israel the Jewish Nation and the Christian church try coming together is so like mixing oil and water. The Jewish people that has established the religion that they do not believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God or the coming redeemer of mankind. plus they believe that he is an imposter, and they reject him and have never as a nation believed upon him. And if they were really still Gods people and if they were right they would not have any dealing with a nation that worships a false God as they claim we do, when we worship Jesus. But they hold onto the dress tail of the USA. for support and if they were really still chosen they would not need to help of men, God always moved for his people under the Law. and where is their prophets and the voice of God. Now the only way they can hear is from the Son of God. and the word says if they have not the son they have not the father. so they don't have a God. And if the Christian church were really knowledgeable of the word of God and true to the word of God, they would not have fellowship with spirits of devils, they would not join themselves with unbelievers. And anyone who reject Jesus Christ they are to have no fellowship with. if they believe the word of God. Jesus said when he was here to those Jews who rejected him, you are of the Devil and if you were Abraham's children you would know who I am. and the Jews that were his true people received him and thousands were added to the church and so did the Apostles and many others received him. God will never recognize a nation of people again. he died for the whole world. this is the new covenant. When they had that convention in Washington DC and men of 20 of our states were their and thousands of so called Christians and as they chanted to Israel and vowed to stand with her against other nations of people whom Jesus died for don't add up to any of them being real Christians. we are not to kill or be part of the world or hate our enemy but we are not to join our selves to them. And Israel if the enemy of Jesus Christ by calling him a poster and not the real sacrifice Lamb of God.
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The children of Israel are being destroyed from within by their Labor Zionist government.
Olmert, Peres, Beilin, and the rest are virulent haters of Torah and religious Judaism. They have no love for Israel.
There once was a true and noble form of Zionism called REVISIONIST Zionism. It was led by the Jewish patriot Ze'ev Jabotinsky. Unfortunately, Jabotinsky and his Revisionists were marginalized and eventually destroyed by the Labour Zionists, who were secular/humanist BOLSHEVIKS. LABOR Zionism along with the Vatican and the SABBATAIANS (followers of Shabtai Tzvi the false messiah of the 17th century) have been working feverishly with the CFR to eradicate Israel and religious Torah Judaism. This is why they are expelling religious Jews from their homes (ie. Gush Katif and soon Judea/Samaria and the Golan).
One must understand that the majority of the people of Israel are good decent people who have been lied to by their so-called leaders.
Those righteous gentiles who truly want to understand what is really happening in the middle east should read Barry Chamish or check out his website.
I believe Pastor Hagee does love the Jewish people but he has been duped by the liberal mainstream Jewish organizations who are also part of the problem. Pastor Hagee thinks people like Netanyahu are good, when he needs to understand that Netanyahu is a puppet of the CFR, just like Shimon Peres is an agent of the Vatican.
May God save us. Time is running out.
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John Hagee is a Zionist stooge who employs iced chardonnay enemas as a means of penance. He is a very sick man who needs help.
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ZIONISM IS FASCISM wrote:
<quoted text>........ Roman Polanski , chuck norris , Howard Kohr , Abe Foxman , mike eisner and the rest of the mainstream media / Hollywood are zionist stooges that demand that the USA go broke subsidizing APARTHEID ISRAEL and its jew only roads , jew only water and reckless paranoia like the MOSSAD murder of JFK and the cowardly attack on the USS LIBERTY.
..........john hagee , Pat Robertson and the psuedo - christian , zionist theocrats hate the USA and helped Israel get away with attacks like the cowardly assault on the USS LIBERTY by the zionazis at ADL / AIPAC / WINEP / JINSA .

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Avraham David wrote:
The children of Israel are being destroyed from within by their Labor Zionist government.
Olmert, Peres, Beilin, and the rest are virulent haters of Torah and religious Judaism. They have no love for Israel.
There once was a true and noble form of Zionism called REVISIONIST Zionism. It was led by the Jewish patriot Ze'ev Jabotinsky. Unfortunately, Jabotinsky and his Revisionists were marginalized and eventually destroyed by the Labour Zionists, who were secular/humanist BOLSHEVIKS. LABOR Zionism along with the Vatican and the SABBATAIANS (followers of Shabtai Tzvi the false messiah of the 17th century) have been working feverishly with the CFR to eradicate Israel and religious Torah Judaism. This is why they are expelling religious Jews from their homes (ie. Gush Katif and soon Judea/Samaria and the Golan).
One must understand that the majority of the people of Israel are good decent people who have been lied to by their so-called leaders.
Those righteous gentiles who truly want to understand what is really happening in the middle east should read Barry Chamish or check out his website.
I believe Pastor Hagee does love the Jewish people but he has been duped by the liberal mainstream Jewish organizations who are also part of the problem. Pastor Hagee thinks people like Netanyahu are good, when he needs to understand that Netanyahu is a puppet of the CFR, just like Shimon Peres is an agent of the Vatican.
May God save us. Time is running out.
You nailed it.
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I believe in the rapture event, being it is in the scriptures.

Although the definitions and interpretations of men contradict some of the statements of Christ as well as the Old Testament. The first thing I would have people to note is the following scripture:

"The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth." Proverbs 10:30

Now before you think you have all the answers, you need to read all of the scriptures to make absolutely sure that you have been taught the correct doctrines about the rapture. And if we have not been taught correctly then the scenario of the rapture is something other than we have been taught.

In the following scripture Christ tells us that at the end of the age (eon Greek aon) which is translated world. That it is not the righteous who are removed out of the world, but the tares, and then the righteous are gathered up together.

"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." Matthew 13:30

Here we see that the wheat is not removed first, but that the tares are removed first. And so, this follows the scriptures of the Old Testament. In that the righteous are not going to be removed not even for a little season to leave the wicked to inhabit the earth (Proverbs 10:30). And well, it matters not what men say about any of it, what matters is what the word of God has to say about it all.

Here are some more scriptures that contradict the current rapture interpretation:

In Malachi 4 God cleanses the earth by fire, and the righteous are in their homes waiting like calves in their stalls to come out and tread upon the ashes of the wicked. And so, here we see that the righteous are not removed but are waiting in their chambers ~ as Isaiah also says.
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Look at both prophets:

"Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain." Isaiah 26:20~21

So we see the time of the coming of the army of the Lord (Rev 19) and the righteous are in their chambers which is also the way Malachi tells us it will be. And Malachi shows us that the earth is to be cleansed by fire and so renewed this way.

"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts." Malachi 4:1~3

Here again we see the scenario of Proverbs 10:30 where the righteous are not removed to leave the wicked to inhabit the earth even for a little season.

"The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth." Proverbs 10:30

Now you will notice that I have found two additional scriptures that support the fact that the righteous are not to be removed before the tares. And that the righteous here in two scriptures remain in their homes in the time of the coming of the Lord of host (Rev 19).

Hence I have four scriptures that agree in one another that the current rapture interpretation is in error.

Now lets look at the fire and how it plays into the second coming of Christ:

"And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;" 2 Thessalonians 1:7~9

Now I believe in the scripture that is referred to as the rapture. But the scriptures tell me that man's interpretation of the event contradicts other places in the Bible. Hence there is another explanation. The fortunate thing however is the we are saved by faith in Christ and by His blood the blood of the Lamb and not by whether not we understand the rapture.

Now this might say that the idea that anyone is going to escape any kind of tribulations down here is placing hope in something that the scriptures do not support. And so, instead of being an arm chair Christian that believes that they do not have to do anything while down here, such as make a stand in the last day. And have to do spiritual battles. I would have to say that the doctrine that people will escape such things is false. And so, if we are placing our life's hopes in a false doctrine. Which can be our destruction.

Well no matter what the scriptures say, Old or New, the rapturist of these days will rebuke then and prefer not to even want to imagine that their rapture scenario is wrong.

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