Southwest Airlines apologizes after director Kevin Smith ejecte...

Kevin Smith says he's "way fat," but that shouldn't stop him from flying. The director and actor says a pilot ejected him from a Southwest Airlines flight from Oakland to Burbank, Calif., saying he didn't fit properly in a single seat. Full Story
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Get A Grip

Cape Coral, FL

#1 Feb 15, 2010
Good for Southwest, too bad they decided to wimp out and apologize. He did not have to take the earlier flight, he had two seats booked already. Deciding to eat yourself to death is a personal choice, and not allowing someone to impose their bulk on their seatmates is a good corporate policy. As someone who travels constantly I see this over and over and have asked to be moved rather than contribute half of a seat - that I paid for - to some overweight freeloader who is too cheap to buy enough room to accommodate them.
Fat is not a protected class, for 99% of people it is a choice.
AHAB

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#2 Feb 15, 2010
Don't knock Southwest, people! At least this airline is trying to make travel more pleasant for their other passengers. Think about this the next time you sit next to a really big person, who squeezes in next to you, on an airplane. It's not pleasant. You're literally shoulder to shoulder.
fruit bat alert

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Feb 15, 2010
If we have to pay extra for luggage that is overweight, why don't obese people have to pay extra? I really don't appreciate their lard as'ses spilling over onto my paid space. Time for airlines to address this "growing" problem.
Bill K

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Feb 15, 2010
I got a news flash for all you-- most aircraft seating plans have you squeezed in there so tight, the only people who don't "spill over" are super models. Passenger comfort has never been high on the list of considerations. And now they want to charge you for another seat? What a racket! The same holds true for most sports and entertainment venues, too. Why don't they put in a couple dozen less seats and have EVERYONE be COMFORTABLE?
Ovie

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Feb 15, 2010
SWA is a complete and total joke. Just this past Friday after countless delays caused me to miss my connection to MSP from Chicago Midway, I was told that my "only option" was to stay at a 3rd rate airport hotel provided by Southwest. They gave us 3 rooms for 8 people, and the hotel "does not do cots."

When I replied that she sure didnt seem to care, the CUSTOMER SERVICE woman replied "It isn't my job to care sir."

Never again. I will spend the extra 50 bucks and fly a REAL airline.
fruit bat alert

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Feb 15, 2010
Bill K wrote:
I got a news flash for all you-- most aircraft seating plans have you squeezed in there so tight, the only people who don't "spill over" are super models. Passenger comfort has never been high on the list of considerations. And now they want to charge you for another seat? What a racket! The same holds true for most sports and entertainment venues, too. Why don't they put in a couple dozen less seats and have EVERYONE be COMFORTABLE?
My husband is pretty hot but he doens't fit the mold of "super model". His as's fits very nicely in a regular airline seat because he is not OBESE and neither am I. I do agree that seats are far too close together and passenger comfort is not a concern of airlines but Americans are increasing in their obesity. I shouldn't have to suffer because Mr. or Mrs. 300 lb. doesn't understand self control.
Larry of Lakeville

Duluth, MN

#7 Feb 15, 2010
Stop with the double cheeseburgers and lose some weight chubby.
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Feb 16, 2010
Bill K wrote:
I got a news flash for all you-- most aircraft seating plans have you squeezed in there so tight, the only people who don't "spill over" are super models.
Either you have never been on an airplane or you're one of the porkers that make life miserable for everbody else.
Dr Procto

Huntsville, AL

#9 Feb 16, 2010
You don't sweAT MUCH FOR FAT GUY.
Madgeypoo

Fountain Hills, AZ

#10 Feb 16, 2010
I stand with SWA. Too big for one seat? Buy a second seat. Refuse to buy a second seat or no second seat available? Leave the aircraft. I don't judge obese people, and I am sure they are uncomfortable squeezed between the armrests. Likewise, they must know that I am uncomfortable forced into half a seat by their mass. SWA fares are pretty low, especially if you purchase SWA specials. I think the ability to buy two seats, for the price most airlines charge for one seat, is a nice way for obese travellers to travel comfortably.
By the way, on the one occasion that I had an issue with SWA, they handled it promptly, politely, and satisfactorily. I will always fly SWA.
MN Observer

Gilbert, AZ

#11 Feb 16, 2010
fruit bat alert wrote:
If we have to pay extra for luggage that is overweight, why don't obese people have to pay extra? I really don't appreciate their lard as'ses spilling over onto my paid space. Time for airlines to address this "growing" problem.
Did you read the story? The airlines ARE making obese people buy two seats if they cannot fit into their seat with the armrest down. The obese people are offended that they are being forced to buy an extra seat. What other parts of the story did you miss?
fruit bat alert

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Feb 17, 2010
MN Observer wrote:
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Did you read the story? The airlines ARE making obese people buy two seats if they cannot fit into their seat with the armrest down. The obese people are offended that they are being forced to buy an extra seat. What other parts of the story did you miss?
After reading the story again, I agree, you are correct. Still, I don't care at all if obese are offended that they have to buy an extra seat for THEIR "extra seat". I paid for mine and I don't want to share their as's on my space. Not all airlines are requiring obese to buy 2 seats, either. Not sure why you feel the need to be a rude jerk about it, however. Have a lovely day.
MN Observer

Gilbert, AZ

#13 Feb 17, 2010
fruit bat alert wrote:
<quoted text>After reading the story again, I agree, you are correct. Still, I don't care at all if obese are offended that they have to buy an extra seat for THEIR "extra seat". I paid for mine and I don't want to share their as's on my space. Not all airlines are requiring obese to buy 2 seats, either. Not sure why you feel the need to be a rude jerk about it, however. Have a lovely day.
You're right. Sorry about that. However, I'm pretty sure all the major airlines are making the really obese people buy two seats. If the plane is full, they make them wait and take another flight where two seats are available. I've seen the news stories.
Bill K

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Feb 17, 2010
Gomez wrote:
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Either you have never been on an airplane or you're one of the porkers that make life miserable for everbody else.
Lighten up there, Gomez. If 5'8" , 185 makes me a "porker" so be it. All I know is, my shoulders are going to "spill over" to the person next to me 10 out of 10 times. I don't know what a 6 ft, 225 pound person is supposed to do? I've never had anyone complain (at least to my face), but I am conscious of it. Normally, that person is my wife, but not everyone flies next to someone they know.

The real problem is we're still flying in 25-30 year-old aircraft. The newer planes are definitely more body-friendly.
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Feb 17, 2010
Bill K wrote:
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Lighten up there, Gomez. If 5'8" , 185 makes me a "porker" so be it.
That gives you a BMI of 28.1 - on the high end of "overweight".
Bill K

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Feb 17, 2010
Rational wrote:
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That gives you a BMI of 28.1 - on the high end of "overweight".
My guess is, I'm nowhere near the average for the general public. If the seats are too small for the majority of the flying public, then I don't want to hear about bailing out all the poor airlines when all the "fat" people stop flying. Who do you think will pay for all those empty seats? All you skinny people!
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Feb 17, 2010
Bill K wrote:
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My guess is, I'm nowhere near the average for the general public. If the seats are too small for the majority of the flying public, then I don't want to hear about bailing out all the poor airlines when all the "fat" people stop flying. Who do you think will pay for all those empty seats? All you skinny people!
Average adult US male is 5'9.4" and 194.7 pounds. That's a BMI of 28.4.
Bill K

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Feb 17, 2010
Rational wrote:
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Average adult US male is 5'9.4" and 194.7 pounds. That's a BMI of 28.4.
Awesome! I'm smaller than average! Seriously, it's not your BMI that's going to determine whether you "fit" or not-- it's your physical dimensions. And I'm telling you-- my shoulders are wider than airline seats allow. Just because it's not my gut that "spills over" doesn't mean it's not a problem. Very smart engineers design passenger aircraft-- someone tell them to make the seats wider, and everyone will be happy!
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Feb 17, 2010
Bill K wrote:
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Awesome! I'm smaller than average! Seriously, it's not your BMI that's going to determine whether you "fit" or not-- it's your physical dimensions. And I'm telling you-- my shoulders are wider than airline seats allow. Just because it's not my gut that "spills over" doesn't mean it's not a problem. Very smart engineers design passenger aircraft-- someone tell them to make the seats wider, and everyone will be happy!
I hate flying, too. They cram you in like cattle.
Hah

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Feb 17, 2010
Rational wrote:
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Average adult US male is 5'9.4" and 194.7 pounds. That's a BMI of 28.4.
You moron, that's NOT how BMI is determined. And then you carry it out to a decimal point? Quit spamming these forums - you're attempt at sounding knowledgeable is pathetic.

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