LAUSD votes to covert Birmingham High School to a charter

Full story: LA Daily News 27
The Los Angeles Unified school board voted to convert Birmingham High School to a charter Wednesday, ending a long and bitter battle between teachers and parents at the district's largest campus. Full Story
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skoobusnla

Huntington Beach, CA

#1 Jul 1, 2009
Why the H**L can't anyone at yhe Daily news SPELL, so I guess this is a "covert" operation?
skoobusnla

Huntington Beach, CA

#2 Jul 1, 2009
Ok so I have FAT FINGERS and accidently hit the Y instead of T, but this is now 3 days in a row that there has been spelling errors in the Daily News.

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Since: Jul 08

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#3 Jul 1, 2009
bring back the birmingham braves !!!
Spell Checker Jones

Santa Ana, CA

#4 Jul 1, 2009
Work on spelling in the headline.
Steve

Tustin, CA

#5 Jul 1, 2009
What a foolish decision by the district. Birmingham's problems and issues for wanting to go charter are no different than the other LAUSD high schools. That school hasn't done much to significantly prove to the district that they need to go charter, and they've been wrestling with the charter issue off and on since at least 2003. With the Magnet deciding to remain with the district, and the charter opponents wanting to go in a different direction, LAUSD just approved to host a circus of chaos.

One advantage of charter schools that is often discussed is the ability for teachers to refine and improve their instruction to "better serve the kids". But better instruction doesn't necessarily make better students. Take a look at the majority of the students that attend the Valley high schools. Nobody ever talks about the students' responsibility to learn and succeed. If more kids actually owned up to their education, cut out the "learned helplessness" act, and stopped deliberately failing English and Algebra courses (only to retake them in summer school so they have something to do - yep, kids actually do this!), then we wouldn't have a need for charter schools.

Birmingham hasn't made enough academic (or other) improvements to warrant the granting of the charter. Will they really be able to turn the school around?
about time

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Jul 1, 2009
birmingham will be a better school
The Cynic

Burbank, CA

#7 Jul 2, 2009
Reading from the headline, all LAUSD high schools must be "covert," because from the high dropout rate and graduates who didn't learn a thing, we'd be hard pressed to know if any kids even attend.
Herb

Pacoima, CA

#8 Jul 2, 2009
Steve wrote:
What a foolish decision by the district. Birmingham's problems and issues for wanting to go charter are no different than the other LAUSD high schools. That school hasn't done much to significantly prove to the district that they need to go charter, and they've been wrestling with the charter issue off and on since at least 2003. With the Magnet deciding to remain with the district, and the charter opponents wanting to go in a different direction, LAUSD just approved to host a circus of chaos.
One advantage of charter schools that is often discussed is the ability for teachers to refine and improve their instruction to "better serve the kids". But better instruction doesn't necessarily make better students. Take a look at the majority of the students that attend the Valley high schools. Nobody ever talks about the students' responsibility to learn and succeed. If more kids actually owned up to their education, cut out the "learned helplessness" act, and stopped deliberately failing English and Algebra courses (only to retake them in summer school so they have something to do - yep, kids actually do this!), then we wouldn't have a need for charter schools.
Birmingham hasn't made enough academic (or other) improvements to warrant the granting of the charter. Will they really be able to turn the school around?
Steve, your post indicates you know what's going on. That's great: Better instruction does not necessarily make better students. Besides, who can judge what "better" instruction looks like? One could argue that in algebra one, better instruction would be more focus on drill in fundamentals, which is contrary to the District's instructional philosophy.
Lay Jeno

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Jul 2, 2009
To all those who attend Birmingham high, try going to Birmingham sober.
Taxpayer_Voter

Burbank, CA

#10 Jul 2, 2009
Steve wrote:
What a foolish decision by the district. Birmingham's problems and issues for wanting to go charter are no different than the other LAUSD high schools. That school hasn't done much to significantly prove to the district that they need to go charter, and they've been wrestling with the charter issue off and on since at least 2003. With the Magnet deciding to remain with the district, and the charter opponents wanting to go in a different direction, LAUSD just approved to host a circus of chaos.
One advantage of charter schools that is often discussed is the ability for teachers to refine and improve their instruction to "better serve the kids". But better instruction doesn't necessarily make better students. Take a look at the majority of the students that attend the Valley high schools. Nobody ever talks about the students' responsibility to learn and succeed. If more kids actually owned up to their education, cut out the "learned helplessness" act, and stopped deliberately failing English and Algebra courses (only to retake them in summer school so they have something to do - yep, kids actually do this!), then we wouldn't have a need for charter schools.
Birmingham hasn't made enough academic (or other) improvements to warrant the granting of the charter. Will they really be able to turn the school around?
To Steve & Herb; I agree mostly with both your posts regarding student and parent responsibility. However, Charter schools are the only way that LAUSD will ever break out of the morass they have created. It's at least a chance to do and try other methods for achieving education success. Teachers just won't have the Union or LAUSD to interfere or blame. I support chaters. I'm not so sure Birmingham is the right school to do this, but we will see.
utla for charters

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Jul 2, 2009
Taxpayer_Voter wrote:
<quoted text> To Steve & Herb; I agree mostly with both your posts regarding student and parent responsibility. However, Charter schools are the only way that LAUSD will ever break out of the morass they have created. It's at least a chance to do and try other methods for achieving education success. Teachers just won't have the Union or LAUSD to interfere or blame. I support chaters. I'm not so sure Birmingham is the right school to do this, but we will see.
The Accelerated School charter teachers seek representation by UTLA
First time that employees of a Los Angeles start-up charter school are seeking union representation.

February 5, 2009 - United Teachers Los Angeles (UTLA) announced today that it has filed papers with the Public Employees Relations Board (PERB) to represent teachers, counselors and other certificated employees of The Accelerated School (TAS) after teachers approached the union requesting representation. PERB will now process the papers to certify UTLA as the exclusive bargaining representative for the purposes of negotiating a contract and representing TAS employees.

Teachers supported the move by an overwhelming majority and cited participation in the educational decision making process, improved classroom conditions both for teachers and students, job security and fair compensation as the main reasons for approaching UTLA.

"We believe that representation by UTLA will give protections to teachers that will allow them to stand up for students and their families, give a genuine voice to teachers, and will allow teachers to contribute to curriculum and professional development," said A.J. Duffy, president of United Teachers Los Angeles.

TAS consists of grades pre K-12 at one campus, and a dual-language school for grades K-6, the Accelerated Charter Elementary School (ACES), at a separate location nearby. Approximately 70 teachers, counselors, etc. are employed by the schools.

This step is a breakthrough for UTLA in union organizing and for teachers in L.A. employed by charter schools. This filing is part of UTLA's willingness to provide representation for all teachers in Los Angeles schools, including those employed by start-up charters, and is another example of UTLA taking a lead role in education reform.
Simon Dunbar

United States

#12 Jul 2, 2009
Charter or no charter school problems are indicative of a divorce from reality. When is the connection between education and jobs?
Bonesaw

Riverside, CA

#13 Jul 2, 2009
This is the same school that had a problem with the name Braves which is in no way Racist,offensive or demeaning it stands for something good look up brave in the dictionary so they changed the name to Patriots who killed indians. LOL
Historical perspective

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Jul 2, 2009
Bonesaw wrote:
This is the same school that had a problem with the name Braves which is in no way Racist,offensive or demeaning it stands for something good look up brave in the dictionary so they changed the name to Patriots who killed indians. LOL
Those were brave patriots.
GiveThemAll401Ks

United States

#15 Jul 2, 2009
This is great for the School and kids. No more LAUSD political nonsense.
GiveThemAll401Ks

United States

#16 Jul 2, 2009
redpandabear wrote:
bring back the birmingham braves !!!
We never left, but we went underground because of the Political Correctness yahoos. I was getting scared about them changing the current mascot to "Bruno". Wouldn't that look great on the side of the Gym facing Balboa at Haynes? I bet there's a West Hollywood High School that would have done anything to have Buno on campus and as their mascot.

Too much fun, LMFAO! Is this news or the DN version of SNL? I soil my pants every time a retarded statement is posted. YES RETARDED. Good for the 50's-60's terminology, good for today. Eat me PETA!
TooFunny

United States

#17 Jul 2, 2009
Bring back Song of the South.
TooFunny

United States

#18 Jul 2, 2009
utla for charters wrote:
<quoted text>
The Accelerated School charter teachers seek representation by UTLA
First time that employees of a Los Angeles start-up charter school are seeking union representation.
February 5, 2009 - United Teachers Los Angeles (UTLA) announced today that it has filed papers with the Public Employees Relations Board (PERB) to represent teachers, counselors and other certificated employees of The Accelerated School (TAS) after teachers approached the union requesting representation. PERB will now process the papers to certify UTLA as the exclusive bargaining representative for the purposes of negotiating a contract and representing TAS employees.
Teachers supported the move by an overwhelming majority and cited participation in the educational decision making process, improved classroom conditions both for teachers and students, job security and fair compensation as the main reasons for approaching UTLA.
"We believe that representation by UTLA will give protections to teachers that will allow them to stand up for students and their families, give a genuine voice to teachers, and will allow teachers to contribute to curriculum and professional development," said A.J. Duffy, president of United Teachers Los Angeles.
TAS consists of grades pre K-12 at one campus, and a dual-language school for grades K-6, the Accelerated Charter Elementary School (ACES), at a separate location nearby. Approximately 70 teachers, counselors, etc. are employed by the schools.
This step is a breakthrough for UTLA in union organizing and for teachers in L.A. employed by charter schools. This filing is part of UTLA's willingness to provide representation for all teachers in Los Angeles schools, including those employed by start-up charters, and is another example of UTLA taking a lead role in education reform.
Unions are for power driven and under achievers. Teachers are educated, but weasels all the way through. Give them all 401Ks!
Good Judgement

Pomona, CA

#19 Jul 2, 2009
"This filing is part of UTLA's willingness to provide representation for all teachers in Los Angeles schools, including those employed by start-up charters, and is another example of UTLA taking a lead role in education reform."

What drivel this is. It is about UTLA trying to maintain their power base. The union is as much a problem as the LAUSD. Maintaining union rules in a charter will just doom any new ideas to failure. I support charter schools. I worry that this is not the right fit for one, but I hope they succeed! If not I am sure they will impose some good changes that will be long lasting no matter the path they take in the future. Even a failure will result in success if it creates change from the failing status quo!
utla for charters wrote:
<quoted text>
The Accelerated School charter teachers seek representation by UTLA
First time that employees of a Los Angeles start-up charter school are seeking union representation.
February 5, 2009 - United Teachers Los Angeles (UTLA) announced today that it has filed papers with the Public Employees Relations Board (PERB) to represent teachers, counselors and other certificated employees of The Accelerated School (TAS) after teachers approached the union requesting representation. PERB will now process the papers to certify UTLA as the exclusive bargaining representative for the purposes of negotiating a contract and representing TAS employees.
Teachers supported the move by an overwhelming majority and cited participation in the educational decision making process, improved classroom conditions both for teachers and students, job security and fair compensation as the main reasons for approaching UTLA.
"We believe that representation by UTLA will give protections to teachers that will allow them to stand up for students and their families, give a genuine voice to teachers, and will allow teachers to contribute to curriculum and professional development," said A.J. Duffy, president of United Teachers Los Angeles.
TAS consists of grades pre K-12 at one campus, and a dual-language school for grades K-6, the Accelerated Charter Elementary School (ACES), at a separate location nearby. Approximately 70 teachers, counselors, etc. are employed by the schools.
This step is a breakthrough for UTLA in union organizing and for teachers in L.A. employed by charter schools. This filing is part of UTLA's willingness to provide representation for all teachers in Los Angeles schools, including those employed by start-up charters, and is another example of UTLA taking a lead role in education reform.
TheDude

Chatsworth, CA

#20 Jul 2, 2009
skoobusnla wrote:
Ok so I have FAT FINGERS and accidently hit the Y instead of T, but this is now 3 days in a row that there has been spelling errors in the Daily News.
HAHA! You are a turd.

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