Court orders tossing of lawsuit over 'Bruno' scene

Sep 14, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KATU-TV Portland

A lawsuit accusing Sacha Baron Cohen of causing injuries to a woman during the filming of "Bruno" should be dismissed because the comedian was exercising his right to free speech when the mishap occurred, an appeals court has ruled.

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Buybull Brainz

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There must be more to the case than that summary allows. If there's a physical scuffle when the event organizer told him and his film crew to leave because she didn't like their speech then I don't see how the resulting injuries to her are a matter of free speech.

Either the scuffle or the injuries must have been inconsequential, or the bingo event must have been judged a public, not private, affair, meaning there was a finding the event organizer had no right to throw him out. Or the organizer is the one who first, unwarrantedly became physical.

I could easily imagine all sorts of physical altercations which could arise after someone exercised his or her speech rights at a demonstration, for example. I don't see how free speech protects them from the consequences of any physical actions on their part if they are found at fault for the physical altercation.

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It appears to be very simple. They had permission to be there, the woman didn't like what they were doing (although they evidently weren't interrupting the event), and became physical. She had no right to lay hands on anyone; her legal course of action was to call the police. Once you initiate the assault, you can't claim to be a victim. If the film crew had gathered around and kicked her once she was on the ground, she might have had a case, but they didn't. She fell on her own dime.

I cannot stand cohen or his version of humor, but that doesn't mean he should be sued over his inanity.
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There must be more to the case than that summary allows. If there's a physical scuffle when the event organizer told him and his film crew to leave because she didn't like their speech then I don't see how the resulting injuries to her are a matter of free speech.
Either the scuffle or the injuries must have been inconsequential, or the bingo event must have been judged a public, not private, affair, meaning there was a finding the event organizer had no right to throw him out. Or the organizer is the one who first, unwarrantedly became physical.
I could easily imagine all sorts of physical altercations which could arise after someone exercised his or her speech rights at a demonstration, for example. I don't see how free speech protects them from the consequences of any physical actions on their part if they are found at fault for the physical altercation.
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The article doesn't make it clear, but I assume it was her event on some sort of private property, since they had to obtain her permission, as note they did.

If she's the responsible party and it's not a place of public accommodation I do not see why she can't retract permission and toss them out. This happens at nightclubs all the time, sometimes by violent bouncers, and nightclubs are definitely places of public accommodation.

There's got to be some information missing or this ruling is over broad.

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Unless there was a contract involved, she could revoke her permission. But she still did not have the legal right to lay hands on them; they weren't attacking anyone. She could haver called the police if she wanted them removed from the premises.

If there was a contract, though, she could pound sand; they could be there until they did something illegal. Personally, I can't believe they filmed a scene without all the contracts and waivers in place.
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The article doesn't make it clear, but I assume it was her event on some sort of private property, since they had to obtain her permission, as note they did.
If she's the responsible party and it's not a place of public accommodation I do not see why she can't retract permission and toss them out. This happens at nightclubs all the time, sometimes by violent bouncers, and nightclubs are definitely places of public accommodation.
There's got to be some information missing or this ruling is over broad.
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Unless there was a contract involved, she could revoke her permission. But she still did not have the legal right to lay hands on them; they weren't attacking anyone. She could haver called the police if she wanted them removed from the premises.
If there was a contract, though, she could pound sand; they could be there until they did something illegal. Personally, I can't believe they filmed a scene without all the contracts and waivers in place.
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I didn't consider the possibility or likelihood of contracts.

That must be it, because I think a property owner or rep could definitely get physical with impunity if they told you to get out and you didn't. In addition, I suppose, they could call the police. In TX they could probably shoot you dead and be in the clear.

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