what about the REAL Illuminati?

[Amschel Rothschild]

The 'Illuminati' did infact exist, but Browns perception of it is just a tad off. Perhaps the most important example is the fact that they were NOT ressurrected, as they never 'went away' in the first place.
President George Washington received news on the Illuminati's infiltration of Americas lodges of freemasonry almost a decade AFTER their supposed disbandment from Bavaria.
In response, he stated "It is not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati and the principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies.. but that individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a separation of the People from their Government in view, IS TOO EVIDENT TO BE QUESTIONED."
If one looks into this information, they will find that hundreds of Presidents, Prime Ministers, and influential/powerful people of all kinds have echoed the same thoughts over and over again throughout history.
Everyone needs to look into the Rothschild banking dynasty and its connections to the Bavarian Illuminati. From there, the truth of the Illumianti and their New World Order comes to light. It really IS too evident to be questioned.
I leave you with this quote from one of the most influential men in the world today, whose family legacy can be traced back DIRECTLY to the Bavarian Illuminati.
"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are PART OF A SECRET CABAL working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists ’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it" -David Rockefeller
After Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve act, giving the Rockefeller/Rothschild banking cartels complete power over the US economy, he stated "I have unwittingly ruined my country.. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." -Woodrow Wilson
"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether
World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." James Warburg - member of Rockefeller/Rothschild Banking family
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." -President FDR
The Illuminati IS real folks. The New World Order theories you hear going about are directly linked, and they are VERY close to attaining that goal. It is important that everyone takes this very seriously, and comes to accept this for what it is.. a documented and proven fact.
Comments and questions appreciated...!?

[Mark Hendry]

There seem to be several groups claiming to be the real Illuminati.

I came across the following comment on an "Angels and Demons" forum:

"The Illuminati seem to be alive and well. According to this site (The Illuminati Order: http://illuminati-order.com/ ), they are associated with Ayn Rand. According to this site ( Illumination: the Secret Religion: http://www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk ), they are Gnostic revolutionaries, and there's an interview with a member of their ruling council. They claim to be thousands of years old. And according to this site ( Illuminati News: http://www.illuminati-news.com ), they are the sinister puppetmasters of the New World Order."

There are few genuine facts about the Illuminati and, historically, they were entirely opposed to ruling elites, hence the idea that they are the puppetmasters behind the ruling elites is absurd.

People should stop worrying about the New World Order and the Illuminati and start worrying about the bankers, politicians and businessmen whose greed has caused the credit crunch.

[amschel rothschild]

"historically, they were entirely opposed to ruling elites, hence the idea that they are the puppetmasters behind the ruling elites is absurd"

Historically, many of the elites actually were part of the Bavarian Illuminati. Keep in mind that they weren't 'behind the ruling elites' originally, but they did infiltrate many political institutions, not least in America. This was necessary for them to achieve their goals and Weishaupts own writings confirm that this was a goal of theirs. Writings from prominent political leaders as far away as American confirm that it was accomplished.

Their primary source of funding was also the Rothschilds, the family which to this day is behind the banking cartel along with the Rockefellers, whose dynasty they helped create. Thus, they are the corporatocracy that you mention.

It's been argued that since the late 1700's that the Rothschilds were actually the force behind Weishaupts group, so it's not as absurd as it sounds. Rothschild also made his fortune working directly with one of the most prominent European aristocracies at the time, the house of hesse.

To say we should stop worrying about the New World Order and start worrying about the bankers is sort of an oxymoron tbh. My whole first post was about the bankers. The very concept of the New World Order/World Government is straight out of the bankers mouths.

and yes, they caused the credit crunch. They question is 'why?'. The centralization of power (NWO) is already taking place in light of the financial crisis.

"the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -David Rockefeller-

Rockefeller even admits, in his own words, to being "part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States" to build a World Government (NWO).

I could quote political leaders all day believing the same thing.. including one who directly mentions Adam Weishaupt.

"From the days of Sparticus, WEISHAUPT, Karl Marx, Trotsky.. this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." -Winston Churchill-

Whether you want to call them the Illuminati or simply the Corporatocracy is irrelevant. They're the exact same thing. Whether you want to call it the New World Order or World Government, or simply say 'globalizatin' is irrelevant as well, because they're the exact same thing.

[Joey]

I don't know what to believe. I guess it is possible that there is an organ capable of controlling the world. I mean, if there are dictators to control a country, why would there not be a group that control the world? If Bill Gates would spread a virus in all computers using windows (windows itself ;) than he could take over control..

Ontopic: I found some really interesting books about the illuminati and historical backgrounds on this site.

http://www.angelsanddemonsdvd.com/angels-and-...