Bizarre JonBenet' Ramsey update

Bizarre JonBenet' Ramsey update

There are 554 comments on the Thomasville Times story from Mar 3, 2011, titled Bizarre JonBenet' Ramsey update. In it, Thomasville Times reports that:

When I thought about JonBenet Ramsey the other day, I decided to see what had happened recently in the case and what happened to the guy who said he killed her, but investigators said he could not have been at the scene.

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Colorado Chick

Colorado Springs, CO

#21 Mar 13, 2011
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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Absolutely not too far fetched!
Right On!! We always thought it was the brother also. Not getting enough attention, sis getting it all. Mom wrote the note fer sure, lengthy as she was asking JoBenet to forgive her killer. I do not understand parents who try to cash in on their children's fame. They have stolen their child's simple,fun and growing years. Should be a law against it.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#22 Mar 13, 2011
who knows wrote:
I'm not too updated on this story but I remember when it first happened I thought it was one of the parents. But then I thought, maybe Jon Benet's brother did it and the parents covered up for him. Is that too far fetched?
There is no evidence to support this idea.
Charlie Chan

Lihue, HI

#23 Mar 13, 2011
who knows wrote:> I'm not too updated on this story but I remember when it first happened I thought it was one of the parents. But then I thought, maybe Jon Benet's brother did it and the parents covered up for him. Is that too far fetched?

BM> There is no evidence to support this idea.

CC> There is more evidence that supports this theory than an intruder theory. At least we know that Burke was in the home at the time of the murder. Although I don't think Burke did it, it is a lot more possible than the idea of an intruder.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#24 Mar 13, 2011
Charlie Chan wrote:
CC> There is more evidence that supports this theory than an intruder theory.
What is that evidence?
Charlie Chan

Lihue, HI

#25 Mar 13, 2011
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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I feel so badly for what all is going on over there, and you must be stressed not knowing, but I would imagine the communication lines are down and/or overloaded. Hop your family is fine.
I just got in contact with my wife's cousing through Facebook! They are fine. At the age of 86, my wife's aunt is a retired registered nurse, and is working overtime as a volunteer at a hospital near a place called "Tohoku". My wife's cousin is also volunteer helping at the hospital as she is a physical therapist, so is her daughter who is a college student. I was worried because there are no men in their home. My wife's cousin told me those who are fortunate are all pitching in to help the unfortunate, and cleaning up after the disaster. That is something we should learn from in this country. When Hurricane Katrina hit, most of the people in New Orleans just waited for help from the government.
Colorado Chick

Colorado Springs, CO

#26 Mar 13, 2011
Charlie Chan wrote:
who knows wrote:> I'm not too updated on this story but I remember when it first happened I thought it was one of the parents. But then I thought, maybe Jon Benet's brother did it and the parents covered up for him. Is that too far fetched?
BM> There is no evidence to support this idea.
CC> There is more evidence that supports this theory than an intruder theory. At least we know that Burke was in the home at the time of the murder. Although I don't think Burke did it, it is a lot more possible than the idea of an intruder.
Will we ever know? JoBenet's remaining years of hopes,promises and wishes were taken the day her controlling mother decided to pageant her daughter. Wealth does have the hush-hush clause for every wrong deed. Sadly true....
Charlie Chan

Lihue, HI

#27 Mar 13, 2011
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text>Will we ever know? JoBenet's remaining years of hopes,promises and wishes were taken the day her controlling mother decided to pageant her daughter. Wealth does have the hush-hush clause for every wrong deed. Sadly true....
Without a credible confession, we will never know, and I doubt that there will ever be a credible confession.
CC
Charlie Chan

Lihue, HI

#28 Mar 13, 2011
BrotherMoon wrote:
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What is that evidence?
While there is no physical evidence, the circumstance that Burke was in the home at the time of the murder is more evidence than a possible intruder being in the home. Like the rest of the Ramsey family, Burke's DNA had to be all over the house, including the basement where he played, AND his fingerprints was on the bowl of pineapple along with Patsy's.
CC
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#30 Mar 13, 2011
Charlie Chan wrote:
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While there is no physical evidence, the circumstance that Burke was in the home at the time of the murder is more evidence than a possible intruder being in the home. Like the rest of the Ramsey family, Burke's DNA had to be all over the house, including the basement where he played, AND his fingerprints was on the bowl of pineapple along with Patsy's.
CC
As I thought, you can't come up with any evidence that Burke was involved. Being in the house only provides opportunity.

The only evidence that Burke was invovled in any way that night is the fingerprints on the bowl of pineapple and cream. It is that kind of evidence that I asked for.
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#31 Mar 13, 2011
Charlie Chan wrote:
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Without a credible confession, we will never know, and I doubt that there will ever be a credible confession.
CC
The ransom note and Patsy's contribution to DOI is the closest thing to a confession there is as both are explainations of what was going on in Patsy's dream riddled mind.
Old South

AOL

#32 Mar 13, 2011
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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So everyone who knew the Ramseys was a pedophile? What kind of logic is that?
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Were these the only 3 kids born at that hospital? What is the tie in?
Actually, I thought Karr’s twins were born at home – Karr married Lara Knutson[12] in Alabama on May 19, 1989, when he was 24 and she was 16 and pregnant. She was carrying twin daughters who were delivered via a home birth on September 1, 1989. The girls, named Angel and Innocence, died later that day.
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Which is it?
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I agree. Patsy wrote the note!:)
L_E, I am commenting via first-hand knowledge of talking with Karr and observing his conversations with others. You have never been involved with conversations with him so you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Your snide remarks like asking if everyone who knew the Ramseys was a pedophile shows that you have disdain for what I say. I did not imply that at all. Didn't Lou Smit himself say that JB was a pedophile's dream?

I've been told by credible sources that Karr is fixated on the Northside Hospital in Atlanta. Instead of passing this info off with a crude, sarcastic remark, I think of it as something that makes me wonder why he feels this way.

And, yes, there are conflicting statements regarding where his twins were born. Records indicate they were born at Northside Hospital while others say they were born at home with Karr actually delivering the babies. We can only guess from what is known about it that Karr delivered the babies and then they and Lara were taken to Northside Hospital where they (the babies) later died. I say this because Karr is said to have stated later that he felt they didn't do enough (at the hospital) to try to save the babies. It's nice to see that you must have read at least some info on Karr although your source wasn't all that accurate or complete.

Oh...You say "Patsy wrote the note". I assume you know this for a fact?

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#33 Mar 13, 2011
Old South wrote:
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L_E, I am commenting via first-hand knowledge of talking with Karr and observing his conversations with others. You have never been involved with conversations with him so you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Your snide remarks like asking if everyone who knew the Ramseys was a pedophile shows that you have disdain for what I say. I did not imply that at all. Didn't Lou Smit himself say that JB was a pedophile's dream?
I've been told by credible sources that Karr is fixated on the Northside Hospital in Atlanta. Instead of passing this info off with a crude, sarcastic remark, I think of it as something that makes me wonder why he feels this way.
And, yes, there are conflicting statements regarding where his twins were born. Records indicate they were born at Northside Hospital while others say they were born at home with Karr actually delivering the babies. We can only guess from what is known about it that Karr delivered the babies and then they and Lara were taken to Northside Hospital where they (the babies) later died. I say this because Karr is said to have stated later that he felt they didn't do enough (at the hospital) to try to save the babies. It's nice to see that you must have read at least some info on Karr although your source wasn't all that accurate or complete.
Oh...You say "Patsy wrote the note". I assume you know this for a fact?
I just took my information from the Wiki site that you are always using as a source, so yeah, considering, it easily could be wrong I guess.

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#34 Mar 13, 2011
Old South wrote:
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L_E, I am commenting via first-hand knowledge of talking with Karr and observing his conversations with others. You have never been involved with conversations with him so you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Your snide remarks like asking if everyone who knew the Ramseys was a pedophile shows that you have disdain for what I say. I did not imply that at all. Didn't Lou Smit himself say that JB was a pedophile's dream?
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Unless I am misunderstanding, in which case I apologize up front, unless you have had private correspondence with him, many posters, and I will only speak for my time there have first hand knowledge of his conversations with others too

I remember when he was posting and answering questions and I followed it very carefully and thoroughly, including reading the entire forum when he left Jameson's and opened his own forum.

I read and followed all the questions, his answers, and his general conversations. I even asked some of my own. What I found IMO, was that he reminded me of those guys who claim to speak to the dead

I found him to be vague and made statements and answers that leave the listener in a position to interpret his responses however they were comfortable with. At least that was my take on it. He would get all hissy if anyone tried to pin him down to a concrete answer that would be revealing. The difference is what others interpret as his reason for doing so. Some saw it as a way to say just enough not to get arrested, some saw it as a way of trying to forget what happened, and some saw it as a man who didn't want to be "outed" as not being there; therefore unable to answer the questions. For me, I fell into the latter group. I read, while other posters gave him leading questions that would later be interpreted in the way they wanted

I just want to clarify that I read all of his posts, his answers and all the editorializing from all the posters at the time and came to my conclusions about him from my own observations and that I don't feel the way I do without having done my homework

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#35 Mar 13, 2011
Charlie Chan wrote:
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I just got in contact with my wife's cousing through Facebook! They are fine. At the age of 86, my wife's aunt is a retired registered nurse, and is working overtime as a volunteer at a hospital near a place called "Tohoku". My wife's cousin is also volunteer helping at the hospital as she is a physical therapist, so is her daughter who is a college student. I was worried because there are no men in their home. My wife's cousin told me those who are fortunate are all pitching in to help the unfortunate, and cleaning up after the disaster. That is something we should learn from in this country. When Hurricane Katrina hit, most of the people in New Orleans just waited for help from the government.
I'm glad that things turned out okay for your relatives.

I think it is unfair to compare what happened in Japan to Katrina. In the case of Katrina, there was little "people" on their own could do to help the people who were stranded and they had to rely on government and FEMA to rescue them. That said, there were many ordinary citizens who did help those who needed it. Many citizens with boats helped others and many other citizens took some of the victims into their homes, fed them and did their best to do what they could while others were homeless and dislocated.

When disaster is on the ground, as with 9/11, people will always come out to help. In the case of Katrina, help from citizens was very limited as many were stranded in places they just couldn't get to. I know many people all around the country who were willing to travel to the Katrina area to help, so to say that we could learn a lesson from the people in Japan is unfair
Old South

AOL

#36 Mar 13, 2011
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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I just took my information from the Wiki site that you are always using as a source, so yeah, considering, it easily could be wrong I guess.
Prove that I am always using the Wiki site as a source.
Old South

AOL

#37 Mar 13, 2011
Capricorn wrote:
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I'm glad that things turned out okay for your relatives.
I think it is unfair to compare what happened in Japan to Katrina. In the case of Katrina, there was little "people" on their own could do to help the people who were stranded and they had to rely on government and FEMA to rescue them. That said, there were many ordinary citizens who did help those who needed it. Many citizens with boats helped others and many other citizens took some of the victims into their homes, fed them and did their best to do what they could while others were homeless and dislocated.
When disaster is on the ground, as with 9/11, people will always come out to help. In the case of Katrina, help from citizens was very limited as many were stranded in places they just couldn't get to. I know many people all around the country who were willing to travel to the Katrina area to help, so to say that we could learn a lesson from the people in Japan is unfair
Excellent post, Cappie.

And another case where people are quick to offer opinions on something of which they know nothing.

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#38 Mar 13, 2011
Old South wrote:
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Prove that I am always using the Wiki site as a source.
That you have sometimes used as a source, is that better?
Old South

AOL

#39 Mar 13, 2011
Capricorn wrote:
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Unless I am misunderstanding, in which case I apologize up front, unless you have had private correspondence with him, many posters, and I will only speak for my time there have first hand knowledge of his conversations with others too
Cappie, I have deleted the last part of your post since it's available to those who want to read what you said. I deleted it because -- in general -- I agree with what you said.

I cannot go into the areas you mention above -- not because I'm trying to lead you to believe anything, but only because I am not at liberty to openly discuss these matters. I do know that he is reading this forum intently and I don't want to put myself into a place inviting any commentary.

So, believe what you like. I am going by my own beliefs based on what I know and have experienced.

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#40 Mar 13, 2011
Old South wrote:
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Excellent post, Cappie.
And another case where people are quick to offer opinions on something of which they know nothing.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether I like or agree with it or not. Many people feel as he does about the Katrina victims. It won't stop me from responding. Deb feels much the same way about the government helping if memory serves and other posters and Americans as well. Maybe they are just Republicans ;)

I don't think there is a person here or anywhere who hasn't offered an opinion without knowing all the facts, just as we do with the crimes we discuss. We "think" we know more than we all really do, which is why we discuss it.

I may think some remarks are unfair, but then again, that is just my opinion as well and will still defend anyone's right to express them whether I like them or not

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#41 Mar 13, 2011
Old South wrote:
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Cappie, I have deleted the last part of your post since it's available to those who want to read what you said. I deleted it because -- in general -- I agree with what you said.
I cannot go into the areas you mention above -- not because I'm trying to lead you to believe anything, but only because I am not at liberty to openly discuss these matters. I do know that he is reading this forum intently and I don't want to put myself into a place inviting any commentary.
So, believe what you like. I am going by my own beliefs based on what I know and have experienced.
That's what we all do OS. We go by our own beliefs based on what we know and our personal experiences and outlook as well as interpretation of the things we know. We apply our knowledge differently based on that and come to conclusions based on that

So no problem and I also know he reads here and has already received way more attention than I am willing to give him, so we'll just have to disagree about our beliefs

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