Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#15337 May 6, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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I get your point. However I think you can make arguments for or against the death penalty.
The most pressing question is why would you agree with the death penalty for minor crimes?
In Islam death penalty is not for "Minor Crimes" or on "Minors".

Those talking against death penalty are who do not know human nature and how crime rate goes higher when there is no deterrent punishment and when justice is denied or delayed due to the western court system, where every "protection" is given to the criminals and "Lawyers" are available to use every trick in the book to get their clients off hook.

The "sympathy" of law is with criminals and not with the victims, who have no protection or recompense for the wrongs they suffered.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#15338 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ask Obama WHY he sanctioned the Killing Of Osama?
Ask those Judges at Nuremberg Trials why they awarded death penalty to those Nazi Leaders.
In fact you have to provide more and more reasoning for your illogical position and not me.
Hey gutless still no word from you about:-

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15339 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Go to the victims of Hitler....the families of 6 millions Jews he killed and take their approval.
Hitler was Catholic, every single Nazi belt had "in God we trust" written on it.
MUQ wrote:
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Do the same from the relatives of victims of 9/11.
Caused by your cult. You shameful people take no responsibility.
MUQ wrote:
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And then you will find where you stand in the world. May be they lynch you before you have finished your arguments!!
If you live in a dream world then it is OK.
We stand away from mindless violence and fear spread by hateful ignorant people like you who ruin society for the rest of us.

And we are proud to stand away from you lunatics. YOu stil haven't grown up and understood humanity - that's why you still cover your women like children and hide from the emotions your god gave you.
MUQ wrote:
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PS:
Lock them up without Parole and Spend TAXPAYER 's money on their upkeep!!
Are you SANTA?
And what is the situation in GITMO? People locked up without trial and conviction?
Liars with no proof of god have to use violence, because intelligence and reason is not their speciality. They are all intellectual cowards after all.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15340 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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In Islam death penalty is not for "Minor Crimes" or on "Minors".
Those talking against death penalty are who do not know human nature and how crime rate goes higher when there is no deterrent punishment and when justice is denied or delayed due to the western court system, where every "protection" is given to the criminals and "Lawyers" are available to use every trick in the book to get their clients off hook.
The "sympathy" of law is with criminals and not with the victims, who have no protection or recompense for the wrongs they suffered.
For all your meandering bullsh*t poetry none of your cult could prove its god.

Shame on your liars spreading your hate with no proof.
henry

Thum, Germany

#15341 May 6, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/07/...
Bishop Willard and his favorite planet: Kolub were totally unsatisfactory for leadership.
Romney wanted to run the country, keeps his money offshore to avoid taxes - Bain's business is to take advantage of other businesses - manipulate them for personal profit, then move onto the next victim.
Classic vulture capitalists
Congress for all practical purposes is a joke
we should pass three constitutional amendments that will go a long way toward fixing the core problems we now have. These include:
a) A constitutional amendment that fixes our broken electoral system by 1) completely removing campaign contributions from the political process; 2) requiring all elections to be publicly financed; 3) moving election day to the weekend to increase voter turnout; 4) making all Americans registered voters at the moment of their birth; 5) banning computerized voting and requiring that all elections take place on paper ballots; 6) term limits.
b) A constitutional amendment declaring that corporations are not people and do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. This amendment should also state that the interests of the general public and society must always come before the interests of corporations.
c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a "second bill of rights" as proposed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education, to breathe clean air, drink clean water and eat safe food, and to be cared for with dignity and respect in their old age.
In the nuclear Age US citizen will never get those freedoms from their superprofits billionairs. Billionairs will always hunt for superprofits and during the whole history of These Nation they get this by uninterrupted wars.
henry

Thum, Germany

#15342 May 6, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I do not want my tax money going for for-profit education, on either the secondary or college level, nor do I want it to go for any religious school or student (except for busing and meals so they won't starve or get run over, if they are too poor to do it otherwise). The latter is contrary to the Constitution, I think. The money going to for profit schools should go to education in community colleges, and to online versions of public colleges and universities, and secondary education. I suspect that there will be a sort of indoctrination from the for profit schools, at least a pro-unfettered capitalism indoctrination - why should my tax money go for that? I despise unfettered capitalism as much as I do rightwing religion, and they are mostly in cahoots.
Maybe the good for profit schools should just try to become regular non-profit universities, if they do a good job. Take a look at what Harkin and Durbin have uncovered about their methods.
You know I mostly agree with you also, to the extent thta I do not find it necessary to spend much time on an atheist forum because I know you are holding the fort for views very similar to my own, and doing it well. But now and then I check in to see if all is well.
I have been watching many cable channels recently, comparing news reporting and opinion. HLN reminds me of witch hunts. I would gladly give JA a knife and a gun and turn her loose in their studios, they are so bloodthirsty for the death penalty. The one for sure premeditated murder is the attempt of prosecutors to get a death penalty. I despise JM and all his flunkies and admirers, they remind me of the fox-hunting mentality - even if the fox did kill a chicken. or do you oppose the death penalty? I would assume that you do in most cases, since you substitute rational ethics for religious nonsense in matters of morals, I trust.
Capitalism is for profits, superprofits and this only is to get by unending wars. Since the beginnig of the US this Nation ever has led wars for this only purpose and now in a nuclear Age this will be its abysmal end!
henry

Thum, Germany

#15343 May 6, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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Most civilized countries have dropped the death penalty.
As Long as there is war the socalled "civilized countries" are at the stage of barbarian nations. As Long as These socalled nations have capitalism installed, they would ever make wars for reasons of profits. But in the nuclear Age this means their end as mankind!
henry

Thum, Germany

#15344 May 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Indeed they have-- as civilizations evolve and discover better ways to be, and to govern people?
They realize that stone-age behaviors, and even bronze-age myths, are best put on the history shelf.
In favor of adult ideas, such as killing ought to be the extreme, last resort, after everything else is considered.
Not in the era of capitalism. Capitalism means always direct or indirect wars in the interest of super profits!
henry

Thum, Germany

#15345 May 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Then Bush cannot be forgiven for the Iraq war, bailouts, and raising taxes either.
Oh, the US-imperialism since its beginning has always make wars inside and outside this Country!
henry

Thum, Germany

#15346 May 6, 2013
spudgun wrote:
In news today..'Hang atheists'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22423815
Islamic protest turns violent in Dhaka 15 died.
Chanting "Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greatest!") and "One point! One demand! Atheists must be hanged".
Religion is truly messed up that part of the world. I hope they get an age of reason soon.
In the nuclear Age reason is too late. Radiation is all over the world silently killing!
henry

Thum, Germany

#15347 May 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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You raise several excellent points, most of which I agree with.
The only exception is the educational funding one-- I'm a strict believer in the more money you pump into education, the better off society is in the long term.
Even border-line educational systems, which are for-profit, and graduate less than half-- that means that nearly half DO graduate better educated than when they went in.
I think that education is the key to a great many of societies' ills-- people who are educated tend to choose more wisely when having babies, they tend to choose more wisely in their career paths, they tend to vote more progressive, they tend to either be not very religious or if they are, it's progressive religion.
The more people we get educated, the less they will submit to lies and bamboozling from politicians.
Notice the shift most recently to marriage equality: the message was changed to one of "marriage equality"-- very clever, and only someone educated in the process would have thought of it (doesn't have to be formal education).
But this new "marriage equality" meme is rapidly pushing through state legislation across the world.
I see education as the only long-term solution to the whole mess.
I'm willing to put up with a few profit-makers along the way-- so long as what they are teaching follows reasonable information.
You Forget Profit Comes from war in capitalism. Education? Yes for the elite. I lived in a Country (Up to 1990) where education had a high esteem!
henry

Thum, Germany

#15348 May 6, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> that sounds like a mostly (I would not use the word all, but prefer to accuse "most")sensible statement. It appears others are attacking your religious views. I can be friendly to your economic bias and not your bias on your religion, but have trouble seeing how the two link. Lots of socalled religious nuts are apologists for greed. They believe in a success religion, that those who get rich deserve to be rich (and by inference, the poor deserve to be poor and we do not need to help them, or even provide opportunities for them to be better able to help themselves). Can you explain a bit how your religious view and view on capitalism intersect? I am not prepared to write you off as a rightwinger if you are not rightwing on economics.
First of all I am Atheist for approximately 50 years or so. Religions are all more or less fakes, lies or just Errors. Quite short, I am a socialist aiming for communism! In the nuclear Age I fear mankind will not survive.
henry

Thum, Germany

#15349 May 6, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> OK, I found this quote which I agree with. somehow I got the impression that someone was attacking you for being religious - apparently I misread or misunderstood, or someone else did.
There is a big division however, in some religious denominations, with the preponderance being on the side of the rich and powerful, and a small minority being genuinely for the poor. But there is a liberation theology element here and there that I do respect - some Catholic priests, for example - one can tell them because of their being in jail or being reprimanded by exPope Ratty. Then there are the faux-type, like the present Pope and Mother Teresa, who like being kind to the poor, as seemingly sweet natured wannabe saints, while really agreeing that the poor are always with us, instead of demanding social and economic reforms.
In the nuclear Age religions at all is IMHO of minor importance any more. There is the danger of the end of human race. Accidents in one or more of the 500 AKWs or so can occur our Inferno in an atomar incidence.
Lincoln

United States

#15350 May 6, 2013
Atheist do not want theists on "Their" threads LOL
Politically this is one of the reasons people generally do not vote for atheists.
Atheists love their own views but intolerant of other views.
Atheists seem filled with Hate.

“hi ya”

Since: Feb 12

Manchester

#15351 May 6, 2013
I don't think the west is capable or replacing 'a type of religion' due to corruption of the mind.

Baal

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15352 May 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ask Obama WHY he sanctioned the Killing Of Osama?
I would, if I was close enough-- I don't think what he did was right.

But. I'm not the one in charge of Obama's life-- HE is-- it was HIS decision. One I do not agree with, but then again, I was not there, and I did not have all the facts that HE had.

On the other hand? If ANYONE deserved killing? Osama was one of those who did. But he was a VICTIM of your evil Islam-- as much a victim as any girl who gets ACID in the face is..

... your horrid religion is one of VIOLENCE.

You ought to UNDERSTAND President Obama's decision VERY WELL--

--- IT IS ONE YOU WOULD HAVE DONE, IF OSAMA WAS NOT ONE OF YOUR TRIBE!

You Islamic TERRORISTS have been MURDERING EACH OTHER FOR CENTURIES.

Sheesh, but you are a hypocrite.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15353 May 6, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>Clinton cannot be forgiven for not vetoing the repeal of Glass Steagal and for Don't Ask Don't Tell.
Obama cannot be forgiven for not fighting for real healthcare reform.
Agreed. On both counts.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15354 May 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Then Bush cannot be forgiven for the Iraq war, bailouts, and raising taxes either.
Also agree.

They all have made their mistakes.

The differences, are what the consequences of the various mistakes are, and how those consequences have played out.

I think Bush2's mistakes were of the worst, as compared to all the rest-- he is personally responsible for all the deaths in two unwinnable wars.

He SHOULD have taken a page from his Dad's playbook-- and pulled OUT of Afghanistan just as soon as the Taliban was destroyed.

And he NEVER should have invaded Iraq.

All the dead people are a tribute to Bush's arrogance.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15355 May 6, 2013
spudgun wrote:
In news today..'Hang atheists'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22423815
Islamic protest turns violent in Dhaka 15 died.
Chanting "Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greatest!") and "One point! One demand! Atheists must be hanged".
Religion is truly messed up that part of the world. I hope they get an age of reason soon.
I'm glad I do not live there-- I'd have to leave it all behind, had I been born there.

... ugg.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#15356 May 6, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
...Atheists seem filled with Hate.
Perhaps you might try to set us a higher standard yourself, Lincoln?

Perhaps some non-believers sink to the level of leading US religionists...
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
Maybe 43% of USAmericans might withhold their vote for a US politician due to bigotry towards non-believers...
http://jonathanturley.org/2013/04/23/gallop-5...

Let's hope not.

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