Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23770 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Henry

Bad Tennstedt, Germany

#12802 Feb 17, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Atheism and capitalism are not incompatible. Stick a giant "exhibit A" sticker on Ayn Rand. Capitalism is an economic system, atheism is merely a disbelief that there is a god, a belief (or lack thereof) which is compatible with any form of economy.
That said, clearly an unalloyed capitalism leads inevitably to a concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands. This disparity leads to social instability, as the haves become more wealthy and the have-nots become poorer. That is ultimately unsustainable, as eventually the have-nots will have so little investment in the social order that a violent re-ordering of society will result. In Europe, this fact has been recognized, and capitalism continues in a hybrid form, with elements of socialism mixed in to keep the wealth disparity modulated, and to assure that the have-nots get enough to stave off general discontent. Even in the US, the government has intervened several times to re-set the economy, similar to a cook reducing the heat to keep the pot from boiling over. First, Teddy Roosevelt and the "trust busters" broke up the combinations that were suppressing competition and promoting the concentration of wealth. Then, FDR's New Deal created a safety net which mitigated the poverty prevalent during the depression. This reduced the pressure in society the same way a safety valve on a boiler would. After WWII, massive government spending on defense, coupled with the GI Bill creatied opportunities for large numbers of veterans to go to college and buy homes. This led to a boom in the middle class, and narrowed the income gap between the wealthiest and the rest of the nation.
Since then, we have seen yet another period of great consolidation of wealth in a smaller and smaller portion of the population. At the same time, business has fundamentally changed. From a nation of small businesses, we have become a nation of mega-corporations. I am old enough to remember when pharmacies were owned by the pharmacist behind the counter. There were supermarkets, but there were also small corner butcher shops. Most banks were local banks, and when they loaned you money, they did not sell your mortgage off to investors, leaving you to deal with 'servicers' located hundreds of miles away from you. Now, opening an independent pharmacy or butcher shop would be financial suicide, as the chains can exploit their size and economies of scale to out advertise you and to deliver the same product more cheaply. Local banks have mostly been devoured by the mega-banks. Just try opening a hamburger stand in competition with McDonalds, BK and Wendy's. That will work. Try finding a local hardware store.
Unless there is another 'safety valve' moment, capitalism will reach its final form, with a privileged permanent elite and a permanent underclass. If you are not already a wealthy CEO, guess which group you will be in.
In the nuclear age capitalism will faster deteriorate. The aging of AKWs will (and have) bring additional risks for humanity and with the natural desasters bring chaotic conditions even to the usual capitalist wars. Funny to believe these socalled underclasses will be patient in such a turmoil.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#12803 Feb 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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As I told you, you better see a mental doctor and tell that 25 hours a day, you see people "thighing" their babies and infants.
May be he will find a cure for you.
Why do you not focus on how many people are murdered each day in the whole world?
Just make their count and lament on this thread for so many lives lost each day.
That might take your mind off the "thighing of infants and children" for a while.
YOU are STILL in DENIAL. What IS YOUR problem?
Henry

Thum, Germany

#12804 Feb 17, 2013
EdSed wrote:
Is the majority always wrong?
In a sense this can be true,(sort of). Take the world being round for instance. Seafarers with good eye-sight probably discovered for themselves that the Earth appeared to be curved from seeing the sails of ships appear before the hulls on the horizon. However, it takes time for such observations to be corroberated and spread to the general population - a process often hindered by religion and other superstitions.
Democracy is partly about majority agreement (and protection of minorities and the innocent, or harmless). One needs universal suffrage despite the fact that a few individuals are vastly better informed and far more correct on almost all subjects than perhaps most people are. Democracy and voting isn't always about who is most correct, but about protecting people's rights. The debates it involves helps to update the community of ideas - a very important concept.
Some minority of super reach ones rule the world so long as the nuclear installations may not destroy the hole world. BTW: wars in capitalism are the rules and worsen the conditions for mankind.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12805 Feb 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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...In MOST of cases the majority is against the truth. The same is the case with so called Democracy and elections....
Speaks for itself.

Religion = superstition
Get over it.
Siro

Ashfield, Australia

#12807 Feb 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Like MUQ, do you consider newborns and infants to be sex toys too? Woulds you denounce the practice as not wholesome, and even detrimental to the health of the child?
Sexual deviates and other perverts who seek to harm children are to be exterminated. I would gladly cast the first stone.

Now why you somehow attribute to me that I am a pedophile shows the desperation of you crackpot maltheists for all to see.
Assuming that bob didnt put you up to this and that you hold the same nutbag way of thinking, I again ask....If the prophet Mohammed was fictional how could he be responsible for actual physical acts against children?
Henry

Flöha, Germany

#12808 Feb 17, 2013
P_Smith wrote:
As I just posted on the site:
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Religion will continue to exist as long as these two things also exist:
(1) Uneducated masses who can't think rationally (especially in regard to their biases).
(2) Biased, corrupt and opportunistic "leaders" who see religion as a short cut to wealth, power, sex and social status.
Because those two things are likely to always be with us, we will unfortunately never see the demise of the demented deists.
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"Unfortunately", one should not forget the AKWs, the usual wars of capitalism, the powers of nature and cosmic accurances. All these events can short cut the lives of humanity. Religions will play in future a minor effect.
Henry

Hartenstein, Germany

#12809 Feb 17, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Halliburton probably had a no-bid contract to handle the post-conflict decontamination.
I see no possibility of a radiation decontamination. Besides accidents in AKWs and natural calamities and natural incidents are shortcutting human life for eternity! Besides the capitalist society is on the suicidal string in the end stadion of its existence!
Henry

Lugau, Germany

#12810 Feb 17, 2013
EdSed wrote:
Is the majority always wrong?
In a sense this can be true,(sort of). Take the world being round for instance. Seafarers with good eye-sight probably discovered for themselves that the Earth appeared to be curved from seeing the sails of ships appear before the hulls on the horizon. However, it takes time for such observations to be corroberated and spread to the general population - a process often hindered by religion and other superstitions.
Democracy is partly about majority agreement (and protection of minorities and the innocent, or harmless). One needs universal suffrage despite the fact that a few individuals are vastly better informed and far more correct on almost all subjects than perhaps most people are. Democracy and voting isn't always about who is most correct, but about protecting people's rights. The debates it involves helps to update the community of ideas - a very important concept.
A very small minority of billionairs in capitalism rule. However, in the nuclear age the realities are different. AKWs accidents, natural or cosmic interferences may cause chaos in our world. Religions mean minor affairs for effects of mankind!
Henry

Lugau, Germany

#12811 Feb 17, 2013
Siro wrote:
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No its a dropkick called Skeptic, a God hating marxist
Sorry, a real marxist can not "hate" a god which does not exist!
Henry

Lugau, Germany

#12812 Feb 17, 2013
Siro wrote:
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He is your prophet, the prophet of atheism
Very sorry, atheists dont need any prophets!
Henry

Lugau, Germany

#12813 Feb 17, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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In other words, you have "faith" in Science and it's ever changing theorizing. Only through the belief in God is one able to comprehend an absolute in such an uncertain world.
Sorry, but god never existed. Why should he?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#12814 Feb 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
You are very right, the Majority is always wrong!!
Quran says “If you were to follow the wishes of majority of these people, they will certainly mislead you…”
But it is your system (by which you die and live) which is based on the principle of majority.
Any one who wins majority of votes is elected, any party which gets majority of seats in parliament gets to form Govt.
Any one who own 50 %+ 1 share in any firm gets the right to formulate all rules and regulations and gets control of the firm.
How come you are raising doubt the concept of Majority?
In reality Truth has power of its own and is not linked with majority or minority.
If every one on this earth declares that “There is no Creator of this Universe”…. And there is only ONE MAN who says that “There IS a Creator of the world”.
That One man will be Right and rest 6,999,999,999 would be WRONG?
What will be the percentage of one man against these 6,999,999,999?
But that's not what is happening, the vast majority still believe in a "creator" in spire of lacking evidence. That's delusional, and the majority is not always wrong, just more often than not.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#12815 Feb 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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As I told you, you better see a mental doctor and tell that 25 hours a day, you see people "thighing" their babies and infants.
May be he will find a cure for you.
Why do you not focus on how many people are murdered each day in the whole world?
Just make their count and lament on this thread for so many lives lost each day.
That might take your mind off the "thighing of infants and children" for a while.
Will you denounce the practice of thighing? Do you remember being thighed? Did it hurt you, do you carry scars? The thighing was to show your mother that she had no power even to protect her own child wasn't it?
It is to show the woman who has just pushed a child into the world, that she is nothing, the power belongs to the penis wielder? The just delivered mothers, cry and beg for their babies, don't they? Imagine if you can that you are human, and you are being forced to watch your child being raped and sodomized.

Did your father raise you to know that his drop of sperm was the only contribution to your birth that mattered? Did you father know that the penis and the clitoris are the same organ at the onset of a pregnancy, and for you to have the penis at all, you first had a clitoris. You began as a female. All humans do. The one whom you mock and demean, the one who you claim power over is who you were. Now you may choose deflection as your way to not face this, but MUQ, you, your prophet, and your monstrous religion are all perverted.

How many babies have you raped?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#12816 Feb 17, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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But that's not what is happening, the vast majority still believe in a "creator" in spire of lacking evidence. That's delusional, and the majority is not always wrong, just more often than not.
Did you say "Lack of evidence"? Are you mad?

It is those who "deny" Creator, they do not have any evidence!!

This whole Universe is a living proof of the existence of Creator!!

Did humans created even a "single atom" in this entire Universe? How came all this came into being? by itself?

That is why I say the atheists (despite all their claims) are the dumbest and most unreasonable and most illogical people on the fce of this earth.

They "see" this entire Universe and say "tuch , tuch, nay, how there could be a Creator for all this"

Could any one be dumber ?

PS:

People rejecting "Models" of Creator is one thing, but denying presence and existence of Creator is totally another thing.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#12817 Feb 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Did you say "Lack of evidence"? Are you mad?
No, but your MooooHumud was obviously quite mad.

He raped a small girl-child and claimed it was his right to do so.

That's as insane as you can be, right there.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#12818 Feb 17, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I'm referring to Aisha, mohammed's last wife, who was from 6 to 9 years old depending on your interpretation of thighing and intercourse. But it's not for me to prove mohammed wasn't homosexual.
I don't know why islam is so anti gay. One mad consequence of this is near enforced sex changes for gay men in Iran. Only Thailand performs more sex change ops.
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Holy crap, that's awful! Stupid Iran.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#12819 Feb 17, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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I generally prefer a good tequila. Tres Generationes blanco.
Yeah, tequila...yum!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#12820 Feb 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Thanks. Please use it as you see fit, no need to quote me, as I am standing on the shoulders of giants.
Else I would not have said it.
:)
Bob, you are a giant.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#12821 Feb 17, 2013
albtraum wrote:
(about Muslims)
They're OK with pedophilia, just not homosexuality. There's a vast difference.
Nothing could be more disturbing.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#12822 Feb 18, 2013
Siro wrote:
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Sexual deviates and other perverts who seek to harm children are to be exterminated. I would gladly cast the first stone.
Now why you somehow attribute to me that I am a pedophile shows the desperation of you crackpot maltheists for all to see.
Assuming that bob didnt put you up to this and that you hold the same nutbag way of thinking, I again ask....If the prophet Mohammed was fictional how could he be responsible for actual physical acts against children?
Wasn't it you who chose to defend MUQ's stance, or were you simply opposing anything that BoQF might say?
It was I who took what I found out about the perversion of "thighing", and brought it to light on these threads, apparently you wanted a piece of it. So welcome, any words in defense of these poor children, can't be said nor heard often enough. Since I began to have my say on this matter, MUQ has snapped. I have been asking the questions for months, and until now, he has ignored them, as if they had never been posted. Other posters though have been educated to this festering maggot pile at the heart of Islam. And I have chosen to continue posting, what I have learned of "thighing".
But to answer your question, men like MUQ use the god that they've never seen proven to model their own behavior on. If Allah did not prohibit it, and Mohamed did sanction the use of children as sex toys, then MUQ and his ilk chose to follow along in the perverted footsteps of the imaginary monster prophets and gods of Islam. It takes a demented pedophile to use or to let children be molested. I am glad you are not one of them, and I never said you were. If you look at my post, it was all questions, and not a single accusation. Why did you read it as such?

...btw, I am atheist, I am not some mentally unbalanced theist who picks and chooses from among any religion's dogma buffet. If there is a single maggot(thighing) in the pile, it is all rancid. Your attempting to use 'maltheist' here, says more about you than it does any of us.

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