Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Yes! Compared to what I went through for the past year or so, I'm doing quite well also!
Sorry and glad - about bad then better.

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Sorry and glad - about bad then better.
LOL! Thanks!
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Wrong. You didn't make one.
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You did not understand the point...
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And then god magicked the Federal debt away...
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Sickening.
What if he said, "So help me Smurfs"? The way that would make you feel is how I feel about a grown man in a position of responsibility giving lip service to a ghost.

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You worship that retarded god? Couldn't you at least worship a god smart enough to know that bringing a whip into a house of worship is a bad idea?
Seriously you believe that retarded myth?
Zombie Christ lol!
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Do you have anything of an intellectual nature to bring to the discussion?

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Wrong. You didn't make one.
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Yes I did, you obviously did not grasp it.
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Bollocks.
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Yes I did, you obviously did not grasp it.

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Do you have anything of an intellectual nature to bring to the discussion?
Do you? I haven't seen anything that you've posted on the last couple of pages that could be considered "intellectual"

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Do you have anything of an intellectual nature to bring to the discussion?
Do you?

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Bollocks.
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Spoken like a true atheist...

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<quoted text>Do you? I haven't seen anything that you've posted on the last couple of pages that could be considered "intellectual"
I have been presenting logical arguments like the argument:

That the atheist in their desperation to deny God, ends up having to deny all the transcendent laws that govern the universe, in particular those relating to morality and logic.

So much so that they are reduced to logical absurdity, clearly showing their worldview has some major issues that precludes them even engaging in logical discussions...

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So a rock did do it...:-)
And if a rock did it, then morality does not exist.
Because without absolute morality, you cannot define any morality...
BS. Morality is a function of society. If there were only one person on earth, morality would be irrelevant. The fact that we are a social species dictates that we will live together. There are better and worse ways to live together (as determined by the happiness of the people involved, the art and science produced, etc). Morality is simple the optimal way of living together.

I would not expect a species from another planet to have the same morality as we do simply because their biology would be different: the things that make them happy and that are important for their societies because of their biology will be different. So our morality is certainly NOT absolute: it is a local thing restricted to humans.

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I have been presenting logical arguments like the argument:
That the atheist in their desperation to deny God, ends up having to deny all the transcendent laws that govern the universe, in particular those relating to morality and logic.
On the contrary, it is the religious nuts that deny the basic logic of requiring evidence before belief. It is the religious that deny that morality is primarily about making humans happy and fulfilled in their lives. It is the religious that think that morality has to be a universal absolute (as opposed to being about humans and their happiness) to have relevance and meaning.
So much so that they are reduced to logical absurdity, clearly showing their worldview has some major issues that precludes them even engaging in logical discussions...
Funny, that is exactly my opinion about many believers in deities.

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BS. Morality is a function of society. If there were only one person on earth, morality would be irrelevant. The fact that we are a social species dictates that we will live together. There are better and worse ways to live together (as determined by the happiness of the people involved, the art and science produced, etc). Morality is simple the optimal way of living together.
I would not expect a species from another planet to have the same morality as we do simply because their biology would be different: the things that make them happy and that are important for their societies because of their biology will be different. So our morality is certainly NOT absolute: it is a local thing restricted to humans.
If morality is a function of biology and one persons biology urges them to rape, your argument grants them that right...

Do you realise that?

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On the contrary, it is the religious nuts that deny the basic logic of requiring evidence before belief. It is the religious that deny that morality is primarily about making humans happy and fulfilled in their lives. It is the religious that think that morality has to be a universal absolute (as opposed to being about humans and their happiness) to have relevance and meaning.
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Funny, that is exactly my opinion about many believers in deities.
Ah...

You see, this is where you misunderstand how a persons epistemology is constructed...

Let me show you how this works.

You are an atheist.

You believe that life came from non-life.

That rocks evolved into living creatures.

Did you observe that?

No.

You have no empirical data to confirm that.

So upon what basis would you defend that presupposition?

Everyones ultimate standard has to be assumed at some point, everyone has many presuppositions that they assume.

Then from there an examination of that standard should take place.

This is of course absolutely true, unless you were there when the rocks decided to turn into life?

Then of course you would have empirical data to match your witnessing the event of abiogenesis.

Short of that, you assumed, or presupposed that happened and then argued from there...

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If morality is a function of biology and one persons biology urges them to rape, your argument grants them that right...
Do you realise that?
That is incorrect. Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a rapist is NOT granted that right.

You should probably ask unbelievers what their moral conclusions are rather than telling them and then condemning them for it.

Besides, if we used the values of your bible, we would find that there are times when we may be commanded to rape by the author of those perfected moral laws.

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That is incorrect. Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a rapist is NOT granted that right.
You should probably ask unbelievers what their moral conclusions are rather than telling them and then condemning them for it.
Besides, if we used the values of your bible, we would find that there are times when we may be commanded to rape by the author of those perfected moral laws.
Obviously I do not accept your twisted interpretation of the Bible on this matter.

But to the main point:

You think that rape is wrong.

That is because you are appealing to a greater absolute moral standard than you can account for in your atheism.
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Thank you.
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Bollocks.
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If morality is a function of biology and one persons biology urges them to rape, your argument grants them that right...
Do you realise that?
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That's why priests f**k kids. The bible's cool with paedophilia so long as its heterosexual paedophilia.
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That is incorrect. Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a rapist is NOT granted that right.
You should probably ask unbelievers what their moral conclusions are rather than telling them and then condemning them for it.
Besides, if we used the values of your bible, we would find that there are times when we may be commanded to rape by the author of those perfected moral laws.

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