Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#10863 Jan 21, 2013
mtimber wrote:
If morality is a function of biology and one persons biology urges them to rape, your argument grants them that right...
Do you realise that?
That is incorrect. Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a rapist is NOT granted that right.

You should probably ask unbelievers what their moral conclusions are rather than telling them and then condemning them for it.

Besides, if we used the values of your bible, we would find that there are times when we may be commanded to rape by the author of those perfected moral laws.

Since: Jan 13

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#10864 Jan 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That is incorrect. Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a rapist is NOT granted that right.
You should probably ask unbelievers what their moral conclusions are rather than telling them and then condemning them for it.
Besides, if we used the values of your bible, we would find that there are times when we may be commanded to rape by the author of those perfected moral laws.
Obviously I do not accept your twisted interpretation of the Bible on this matter.

But to the main point:

You think that rape is wrong.

That is because you are appealing to a greater absolute moral standard than you can account for in your atheism.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10865 Jan 21, 2013
Thank you.
mtimber wrote:
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Spoken like a true atheist...
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10866 Jan 21, 2013
Bollocks.
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
If morality is a function of biology and one persons biology urges them to rape, your argument grants them that right...
Do you realise that?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10867 Jan 21, 2013
That's why priests f**k kids. The bible's cool with paedophilia so long as its heterosexual paedophilia.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That is incorrect. Perhaps you hadn't noticed, but a rapist is NOT granted that right.
You should probably ask unbelievers what their moral conclusions are rather than telling them and then condemning them for it.
Besides, if we used the values of your bible, we would find that there are times when we may be commanded to rape by the author of those perfected moral laws.

Since: Jan 13

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#10868 Jan 21, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Bollocks.
<quoted text>
Again, spoken like a true atheist.

I hope your fellow atheists realise that your behaviour is probably the most reflective of the central doctrine of the atheistic religion?

Assertion of self...

Since: Jan 13

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#10869 Jan 21, 2013
Thinking wrote:
That's why priests f**k kids. The bible's cool with paedophilia so long as its heterosexual paedophilia.
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Prejudiced emotive faulty appeal...
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10870 Jan 21, 2013
Partridge carnival handbag underlay.
mtimber wrote:
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Prejudiced emotive faulty appeal...

Since: Jan 13

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#10871 Jan 21, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Partridge carnival handbag underlay.
<quoted text>
Indeed...

That is where atheism takes the individual.

To irrationality...

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10872 Jan 21, 2013
It doesn't seem like atheism is defeating much around here, except itself...
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10873 Jan 21, 2013
Irrational numbers exist.
There was a believer that posted on Topix that root 2 was a fraction.
He wasn't even a Poe.
mtimber wrote:
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Indeed...
That is where atheism takes the individual.
To irrationality...
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10874 Jan 21, 2013
Like you, Hitler also thought he was a winner.
mtimber wrote:
It doesn't seem like atheism is defeating much around here, except itself...

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#10875 Jan 21, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
If morality is a function of biology and one persons biology urges them to rape, your argument grants them that right...
Do you realise that?
No, morality is about living in a society and the happiness of those in the society. Rape does not contribute to the happiness of those in the society. Empathy is a fundamental aspect of human biology. Morality is based on empathy.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#10876 Jan 21, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah...
You see, this is where you misunderstand how a persons epistemology is constructed...
Let me show you how this works.
You are an atheist.
You believe that life came from non-life.
That rocks evolved into living creatures.
Did you observe that?
No.
You have no empirical data to confirm that.
So upon what basis would you defend that presupposition?
Everyones ultimate standard has to be assumed at some point, everyone has many presuppositions that they assume.
Then from there an examination of that standard should take place.
This is of course absolutely true, unless you were there when the rocks decided to turn into life?
Then of course you would have empirical data to match your witnessing the event of abiogenesis.
Short of that, you assumed, or presupposed that happened and then argued from there...
Since you clearly don't understand even the basics of what science says, let alone how science and atheism differ, I would recommend not commenting on things you do not understand.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#10877 Jan 21, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously I do not accept your twisted interpretation of the Bible on this matter.
But to the main point:
You think that rape is wrong.
That is because you are appealing to a greater absolute moral standard than you can account for in your atheism.
No, we appeal to the empathy that is central to social species like ours. The progress of morality is the progress of empathy towards those who religion and other doctrines say are subhuman.
McNeil

Tucker, GA

#10878 Jan 21, 2013
Why shouldn't there be a God is my question? What's there to look forward to after you die? Why would you fight so hard to to prove that a person does not exist, when that same person is willing to offer you salvation? Doest make sense..

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10879 Jan 21, 2013
McNeil wrote:
Why shouldn't there be a God is my question? What's there to look forward to after you die? Why would you fight so hard to to prove that a person does not exist, when that same person is willing to offer you salvation? Doest make sense..
Because the price you extract is too high. Your religion is one of hate, oppression and abuse.

It does not matter which of the supernatural woo you are victimized by currently-- they all abuse their followers.

Finally? I must ask... "salvation"... from ... what? Death is death--there is nothing beyond it as far as you (or anyone) can prove.

That's it. Finis.

So, no-- your mewlings here make no sense in the least.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#10880 Jan 21, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler had close relations with the pope. The pope and the Roman Catholic Church was praying for the victories of the Nazi army!
May be the Church of England was also doing the same? Or was it War between catholics and Protestants?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10881 Jan 21, 2013
McNeil wrote:
Why shouldn't there be a God is my question? What's there to look forward to after you die? Why would you fight so hard to to prove that a person does not exist, when that same person is willing to offer you salvation? Doest make sense..
You should be more concerned with living a full life so you don't care if there is a second one. Buying snake oil is a sign of gullibility, not one of intelligence, and you bought the snake oil.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#10882 Jan 21, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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So a rock did do it...:-)
And if a rock did it, then morality does not exist.
Because without absolute morality, you cannot define any morality...
It would be easier to herd cats than to have a coherant conversation with you. When you get through playing with rocks try learning about bigger and better things.

Ignorance can be alleviated by education "but you can't fix stupid".

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