Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24099 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9407 Nov 26, 2012
rio wrote:
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WEll, I live in the UK, and I don't pretend to know much about the US.
By the same token, you could stop looking at us through your US-tinted glasses.
I think we are quite a tolerant bunch here, with not much hang ups about religions or not.
I am a deist, one of my daughter is a pagan, the other is buddhist, my partner is Muslim, my ex is catholic, and the one before protestant. We just don't have much problem accepting each other.
I don't pretend to know UK culture, or business, but you are lying and I already pointed that out. I do know about theists, christians or otherwise, I deal with them all the time, and you are one. You post like one, you lack any education like one, and you are so use to lying you can't even admit you are.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9408 Nov 26, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Repeating constantly to others they suffer from delusion is aggressive enough, and not a very clever approach.
You are a very bad role model for an atheist, I must say.
Far too much aggression in your words.
You are about as convincing as a catholic missionary during the Inquisition!
You never worked in sales, I suppose, or you would have driven potential customers in the direction of your competitors.
Another tip: answer all the points in a mail, just not pick and choose which one you want to deal with.
Well, when someone suffers from a delusion, how else do you get them help?
rio

Bromley, UK

#9409 Nov 26, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't pretend to know UK culture, or business, but you are lying and I already pointed that out. I do know about theists, christians or otherwise, I deal with them all the time, and you are one. You post like one, you lack any education like one, and you are so use to lying you can't even admit you are.
Please, please, one more time, tell me what I am lying about.
rio

Bromley, UK

#9410 Nov 26, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, when someone suffers from a delusion, how else do you get them help?
But who says you are right and I am wrong. It's so easy to turn the table here. Who says you don't suffer from delusion.
You are assuming too much, and you have a completely negative approach.
You started this exchange on the wrong foot, totally.
humberman99

Wolverhampton, UK

#9411 Nov 26, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Please, please, one more time, tell me what I am lying about.
shut up, arse banger. ronanicanreadrio.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9412 Nov 26, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
But who says you are right and I am wrong. It's so easy to turn the table here. Who says you don't suffer from delusion.
You are assuming too much, and you have a completely negative approach.
You started this exchange on the wrong foot, totally.
Well, it's hard to be wrong when you don't make an assertion. I made no assertion, most atheists don't make an assertion, we just ask that you present the evidence so we can also find out. But you never do, that is what makes your delusion so clear. But we can test assertions, if they are presented, and when no evidence suggests or supports the assertion then it is plain as day that it is nothing more than fantasy, and believing fantasy is real is delusional.
rio

Bromley, UK

#9413 Nov 26, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, it's hard to be wrong when you don't make an assertion. I made no assertion, most atheists don't make an assertion, we just ask that you present the evidence so we can also find out. But you never do, that is what makes your delusion so clear. But we can test assertions, if they are presented, and when no evidence suggests or supports the assertion then it is plain as day that it is nothing more than fantasy, and believing fantasy is real is delusional.
But what assertion am I supposed to make? I believe, I think there was a creator. I don't need to prove it since I am not trying to convince you of anything. It's my own belief. I will not try to built any cult about it, nor will I accept any. You are perfectly allowed to think otherwise, and I am not trying to change your mind.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#9414 Nov 26, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Repeating constantly to others they suffer from delusion is aggressive enough, and not a very clever approach.
You are a very bad role model for an atheist, I must say.
Far too much aggression in your words.
You are about as convincing as a catholic missionary during the Inquisition!
You never worked in sales, I suppose, or you would have driven potential customers in the direction of your competitors.
Another tip: answer all the points in a mail, just not pick and choose which one you want to deal with.
How should one respond to a post full of ad hominem attacks such as yours above? It has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, no facts only your personal opinion.....and you think this is legitimate debate on your part?

By all means, step up to bat and show us what you've got!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9417 Nov 26, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
But what assertion am I supposed to make? I believe, I think there was a creator. I don't need to prove it since I am not trying to convince you of anything. It's my own belief. I will not try to built any cult about it, nor will I accept any. You are perfectly allowed to think otherwise, and I am not trying to change your mind.
A belief is an assertion.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#9418 Nov 27, 2012
MUQ wrote:
So according to your story, Muhammed has his prayers answered. But what about millions of starving africans, or amputees, or others in the world suffering adn dying. They fail to get their prayers answered. Bit unfair isnt it?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#9419 Nov 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I do know about theists, christians or otherwise, I deal with them all the time, and you are one.
Agreed, I thought the same thing about "deist" rio.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#9420 Nov 27, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-48
Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.
The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”
The Case of : ABD YALAIL AL THAQAFI
ABD YALAIL was one of the chief of Taif, the garden city and summer capital of Makkah people. The city of Taif is situated approx 100 KM from the city of Makkah and it situated at the height of 6000 – 7000 feet above sea level. Its climate is very moderate during the peak summer months.
When he prophet declared his mission, for many years he only addressed to Makkah people and those of Arabian tribes who came to visit Makkah during Hajj and UMRAH. But when his uncle Abu Talib died, prophet started thinking of finding abase outside Makkah as there was no one to support him there.
The first place that came to his mind was the nearby city of Taif. So he went there for the purpose of propagating his mission. Taif in those days was ruled by ABD YALAIL and his two brothers. All these three behaved in a very rude manner. Which was so unbefitting for a ruler to behave towards a visitor from outside their lands.
Not only that, when prophet was returning dejected from their lands, this ABD YALAIL asked children and vagrants of the land to throw pebbles and stones at the prophet, to injure his and his feet.
When prophet captured Makkah in year 8 AH, he laid a siege of the city of Taif, but he removed the siege and left Taif when he found that it would be a very long siege. He used his another weapon “prayer” which was more powerful than all other worldly weapons combined!! While leaving Taif , he prayed “O Allah! Bring THAQIF (tribe of Taif) to me”.
This prayer was accepted by Allah, and barely 80 to 90 days had passed when a deputation from Taif visited Madina. ABD YALAIL was also amber of this deputation. After some arguments, the whole delegation accepted Islam and returned to their land.
There were five leaders in that mission, including ABU MAS’OOD. All these people invited their people to Islam, but the people of Taif threw stones at them and due to which ABU MAS’OOD died the death of martyr.
The people of Taif felt their guilt at what they had done to their earlier leader and then with the preaching of ABD YALAIL and other people, accepted Islam in one day.
What a change had come over this ABD YALAIL, he was once very rude to prophet , now he was chief propagator of his faith, who can doubt the affectivity of “Sword of Prayer and Pardon” which the prophet wielded so effectively.
Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
Proven liar with no proof of god.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#9421 Nov 27, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
You atheists are not supposed to capitalise g.o.d. when you speak about deity!I know a deist wouldn't!
I am afraid that you failed the test miserably.
KittenKoder will have a fit about that; her whole theory rests on that capilal G !
What happened to "bye bye?"
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#9422 Nov 27, 2012
MUQ wrote:
A man's religion depends upon whether he or she uses god or God ..
Hi Muq, wondered if debating with free thinkers is haram? Arent you guys supposed to avoid or maybe even slay infidels, instead of debating with them?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#9423 Nov 27, 2012
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Muq, wondered if debating with free thinkers is haram? Arent you guys supposed to avoid or maybe even slay infidels, instead of debating with them?
his idea of a debate is him chatting to a people who are talking back to him and correcting him on every single point, while he continues to repeat the same religious bullsh*t over and over again like a common email spammer selling viagra to idiots who made it over the smartness barrier of creating an email address.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#9424 Nov 27, 2012
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-49

Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.

The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”

The Case of : BAREEDA BIN AL HASB AL ASLAMI

This refers to the time when Prophet had left Makkah and was on this journey to Madina. People of Makkah had declared a prize of 100 camels to anyone who would capture him and bring him back to Makkah.

Many people had left in different directions, for the search of looking fugitives, BAREEDA BIN AL HASB was also one of them. He left his house on his horse, with a firm resolve not to return back till he has achieved his mission.

While going, he was told by some people that three people on two camels have just gone this route a few hours back. BAREEDA BIN AL HASB thought that these might be the persons whom he was looking. So he went in that directions on his horse fast.

A few miles along, he saw two camels on which two persons were sitting, one of them was prophet and second one was his friend Abu Bakr, Prophet was reciting Quran in a loud voice and every thing seemed to listening his recitation.

BAREEDA BIN AL HASB reached near and the sounds reached to his ears, the magic of Quran started working on his heart and remove the dust of false beliefs and teachings which had surrounded it. When the sound of horse reached prophet, he stopped his camel and looked back at BAREEDA BIN AL HASB.

When BAREEDA BIN AL HASB had a close look at the prophet’s face he cried out “This cannot be the face of a liar and a false prophet”. He immediately declared his faith to Islam and he tied a cloth as flag on his spear and went on his horse in front of camels of Prophet and his companion as a vanguard and body guard.

What a strange change from a booty hunter to a body guard in one instant, who can question the effectiveness of “Sword of Quran and Prophet’ smiling face”…..two of the strongest swords in his armor!!

Andre

Durban, South Africa

#9426 Nov 27, 2012
rio wrote:
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I don't recognise for myself any "revealed" religions like Judaism, Christianity of Islam. I don't believe in the bible or any religious books.
I am a deist; I think there ia a god, under which form, I don't know. I don't worship him and I don't need to congregate with others to be part of a group, sect, cult or religion.
Not trying to be funny, but there is hardly anything to worship if you do not even know much about this "god", apart from the fact that he is apparently the creator.
May I venture to say that your view may be based on apparent "dislikes" of "organized religion" rather than conviction of the truth of deism? Just a question.
rio

Bromley, UK

#9427 Nov 28, 2012
Andre wrote:
<quoted text>Not trying to be funny, but there is hardly anything to worship if you do not even know much about this "god", apart from the fact that he is apparently the creator.
May I venture to say that your view may be based on apparent "dislikes" of "organized religion" rather than conviction of the truth of deism? Just a question.
That's the position of deists; they belive there was a creator at the origin of the universe, but they don't feel the need to worship him.
Google "deism" for more explanation.
rock white

Dorking, UK

#9428 Nov 28, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the position of deists; they belive there was a creator at the origin of the universe, but they don't feel the need to worship him.
Google "deism" for more explanation.
you appear to be a well known gay troll. now away you go off this site. You and your kind are not wanted.
rio

Bromley, UK

#9429 Nov 28, 2012
rock white wrote:
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you appear to be a well known gay troll. now away you go off this site. You and your kind are not wanted.
Humberman999 is Jason Norris, also known as joewale, johnsheaperd, rock white, mick rock or mike 483
Here are his views on women

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/united-kingd...

#52
“you certainly do get worked up. Have noted the dates. Menstrual problems obviously so we will not take you too seriously.”

#54
“As a menstrual debilating hypochondriac you have a retardation and should seek medical advice.
My advice to you is to get laid as often as possible.”

#66
“There is a partnership between normal men and women, stress the word "normal". That partnership does not extend to abnormals, so one assumes you speak for the abnormals.
The word "misogynist", as used by you, is now the "in" word to be used against men who do not like lesbians. Well, wrong again, because they provide normal men with good entertainment value, nothing nicer than a couple of buth bull dykes trying to emulate men. Real turn on.»

#67
« dykes do not like getting pregnant.”

#70
“Millions upon millions of normal women are proud to be called housewife.”

#80
“you are an unrepentant dyke. No law against it, just admit it.”

#82
“Please let either the pmt"pre", the pmt"post", or the hormonal unbalance clear before you enter into a serious post like this.
Not your fault, just female nature. Bless you.»

#106
« The message is quite clear. You are a bull dyke with menstrual problems.
Please see a medic.
Bless you.»

#117
« how do you profess all this when you are not a woman. But a dyke with menstrual problems which remind you on a monthly basis of your sex. Go see a medic.»

#119
« We will know in a few days whether you have passed the menstrual problems you have.”

#122
“You are just a stupid female with hormonic problems.”

#125
“It is obvious that your family were incestuous, probably Nazi, and you are trying to alleviate the guilt you harbour.»

#131
“You are a female. You sit to pee and you bleed monthly. You have not the same physical strength as a male, and you have penis envy.”

#137
“I never have stated that women should be subjected to mens control, because they are naturally that.”
“Sit down and pee.»

#143
« not only can men do what you say they cannot do, they can also juggle female breasts as well. Now that is what I call control.»

#147
« I love uterus envy. Not a day goes past whenever I explore at least one.
No point in talking to a dyke about that though. Might get you worked up.»

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