Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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rio

UK

#9283 Nov 23, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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Exactly some of them are fanatical. Yeah true I think its important to have tolerance of peoples beliefs with regard to their faith or lack of it.
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Dubbadub.

It has been pointed to me that most of the so-called atheists on this thread, in fact know each other and belong to the same circle of atheists.
Nothing wron in that, of course, but they gather force to drum up their " beliefs" and drown out anyone remotely believer or agnostic, or just doubtful on this thread.

KittenKodder, Gimemeliberty and a few other are in fact using this as a propagation tool.

I thought it look suspociouis that no discussion was possible, just endocrination.

Never mind. Just another example of cyber terrorism.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#9284 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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There you go, continuing with that lie. Of course there's a difference, deists are not dishonest enough to use a label as a proper noun like you do.
He is a bit confusing....all over the map one might say.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#9285 Nov 23, 2012
rio wrote:
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Here you go.
You keep barging in my posts!
I am through with you.
I do not wish to exchange with you,; is that clear?
Can't you just ignore me?
This is a "PUBLIC FORUM" and you do not make the rules, is that clear? Learn to live with it or take your ball and go home....or just continue to whine, it's not as important a matter as you think.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#9286 Nov 23, 2012
rio wrote:
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Dubbadub.
It has been pointed to me that most of the so-called atheists on this thread, in fact know each other and belong to the same circle of atheists.
Nothing wron in that, of course, but they gather force to drum up their " beliefs" and drown out anyone remotely believer or agnostic, or just doubtful on this thread.
KittenKodder, Gimemeliberty and a few other are in fact using this as a propagation tool.
I thought it look suspociouis that no discussion was possible, just endocrination.
Never mind. Just another example of cyber terrorism.
Sooo, you're a conspiracy theorist too? LMFAO!

Here I thought it was theists who congregated several times a week to solidify and prop up their shakey belief system. What and where do you deists go when you want to discuss your watered down, distant version of an all knowing entity???

Is there an atheistic center where we hatch our plots and plan the end of the world as you know it? I need an address and schedule, anybody....anybody?

Oh and tell me, are Kitten Koder and GimmeLiberty really engaging in propogation *ahem* or are they merely spreading propoganda, LMAO?
rio

Bromley, UK

#9287 Nov 23, 2012
albtraum wrote:
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take your ball and go home.....
I'll do that and let you and your like enjoy your self-appreciating atheist sociey in peace.
You just confirmed one thing: atheists are more fanatical than ANY believers, including fundamentalist Muslims probably.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9288 Nov 23, 2012
rio wrote:
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I'll do that and let you and your like enjoy your self-appreciating atheist sociey in peace.
You just confirmed one thing: atheists are more fanatical than ANY believers, including fundamentalist Muslims probably.
Um, so? At least our fanatics are too busy creating things like vaccines, computers, and video games instead of shooting doctors or flying planes into buildings.
elephant in the room

London, UK

#9289 Nov 23, 2012
rio wrote:
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I'll do that and let you and your like enjoy your self-appreciating atheist sociey in peace.
You just confirmed one thing: atheists are more fanatical than ANY believers, including fundamentalist Muslims probably.
Even more than suicide bombers!?

I guess it's open to interpretation, but suicide bombers certainly rate higher on my fundamentalist nutjob chart than Richard Dawkins!
Kristina Herrbolt

UK

#9290 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Um, so? At least our fanatics are too busy creating things like vaccines, computers, and video games instead of shooting doctors or flying planes into buildings.
Because in your narrow-minded world, you still believe that all atheists are a credit to humanity and all believers suicide bombers.

Poor stupid cow!
If you had two brain cells you would be dangerous.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9291 Nov 23, 2012
Kristina Herrbolt wrote:
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Because in your narrow-minded world, you still believe that all atheists are a credit to humanity and all believers suicide bombers.
Poor stupid cow!
If you had two brain cells you would be dangerous.
Aw, you are so jealous you have to imitate me.
Kristina Herrbolt

UK

#9292 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Aw, you are so jealous you have to imitate me.
No, I thought that was the transgender thread where you usually operate.
So, you mother taught you to lie and to steal/?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9293 Nov 23, 2012
Kristina Herrbolt wrote:
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No, I thought that was the transgender thread where you usually operate.
So, you mother taught you to lie and to steal/?
If you're going to imitate me, you need to learn to type better.
Kristina Herrbolt

UK

#9294 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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If you're going to imitate me, you need to learn to type better.
So, did you manage to raise enough funds to finance that sex change operation you were talking about?
Kristina Herrbolt

UK

#9295 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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If you're going to imitate me,.
Who says I wish to imitate you?
God forbids, that's the last of my worries!
I don't call myself KittyKoder.
Kristina Herrbolt is my "nom de plume", you see.
Don't you like it?
I have seen it somewhere else. Can't remember where ...

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9296 Nov 23, 2012
Kristina Herrbolt wrote:
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So, did you manage to raise enough funds to finance that sex change operation you were talking about?
Now you are just making things up. Gah, I troll better than you do, you should stop imitating me.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#9297 Nov 23, 2012
Adam wrote:
That's funny. lol

01. You are obviously an intelligent person. Good at apologetics.

But also brainwashed. I guess from childhood.

Its very difficult to break a lifetime of brainwashing. Some people never do it.

02. The reason you think Muhammad was such a great guy is cause this is what you have been taught.

03. If you were born in Hicksville, in the US, you would be waxing lyrical about how wonderful Jesus is.

04. You need to evaluate whether your beliefs are rational and the evidence for and against supports those beliefs.

05. For those of us outside the muslim bubble this is very easy. We hear Muhammad having a 6 yo wife, and stories of alleged miracles. And to us its obviously a fairy tale.

06. Likewise some of here were programmed into christian beliefs. To you this is stupid, and it is. But it can take time to shake off these beliefs.

Good luck.
Ans.

01. It is strange you think I am intelligent, the “general opinion” on the thread is that I am a “born idiot”.

And the “general opinion” on the thread is that I am a Fundamentalist and an Extremist, now you say I am an Apologist, do you think I have as split personality?

02. May be I was taught all along that our prophet was a Great guy….. but who taught the Encyclopaedia Britannica guy to rate Our Prophet as “The Most successful of all religious personalities?

And who brainwashed Michel H. Hart to rate as our prophet as Number One in the list of “Most Influential Person of all Time”?

The problem is that when you fix a standard of greatness and then analyze different personalities, you learn who is greatest and who is greater and who is great and who is overrated etc.

03. Those guys at Hicksville might be treated as persons who did not have exposure to the world. And by the way we also sing lyrics about how wonderful Jesus was.

He was one of the greatest messengers of God, a True Prophet of God, born of Virgin Mary, showed many signs and miracles and taken up bodily into heavens, from where he shall descend near the Close of Times.

Ask any Christian do they know as much about our prophet?

04. If our beliefs are irrational, then you have every right to criticise them, but without giving any logic or proof, your summary statement is untenable.

05. Why only outside Muslim world, in Muslim world also we “hear” the news about our prophet having a 6years old wife. Just hearing the new will not make it true though. You have to look into the news and try to find the truth!!

To us also has reached the alleged miracles of Moses, Jesus, all earlier prophets and our prophets also. I do not consider them as fairy tales.

Obviously you do not know what is a fairy tale and what is a Miracle or sign shown at the hands of True Prophets and Messengers of God, the Creator of this Universe.

06. You are right people are brain washed into the religion of their parents and it is not easy to shake off those beliefs.

But it is not impossible to shake them off (and you are living proof of that, I hope your parents were having Christian back ground).

Those who try to look sincerely, find the true path. Those who are “lazy enough” to tread the path of their parents or just deny every thing, do not find the way.

The same thing happens to every other walk of life in this world.

Good luck to you also, but I still feel that you are taking a Big Gamble (not Pascal’s Gamble, mind you, real Gamble) with your precious life.

This is a brotherly advice from one Human to another Human brother.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#9298 Nov 23, 2012
Sheilaa wrote:
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Seems to be that no one agrees with you MUG. LOL
When Jesus could one only Twelve Disciples out of whole nation of Isreal.... and majority of people rejected his message....who was the winner?

Jesus or the majority of people?

And since when "Popular Support" has become standard for Truth and Falsehood?

I think your belief of too much in your Democratic System has lead you astray. You think if majority of people like or favor some idea, it becomes true.

Truth ALWAYS is in minority in the world, so if majority of people are against me, I know I must be on right path!!

Thanks once again for your support!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#9299 Nov 23, 2012
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-45A

The Case of : ABDULLAH (DUL BAJADAIN)

He was a young lad, whose father died when he was quite young.. His uncle took care of him and provided him with camels and other items of daily life, to improve his lot.

Abdullah heard about Islam when he was very young, he was afraid of his uncle and was hoping that he would become Muslim sooner or later. When prophet conquered Makkah and still his uncle did not accept Islam, he went to his uncle and told “I was waiting all these years, hoping that you would accept Islam, but it seems you have no interest in it, but I want to accept Islam”

‘If you want to become Muslim you will have to forgo all your wealth including clothes on your body” his uncle told harshly.

Abdullah immediately renounce all his wealth and dress on his body and went to his mother, naked and told that he has left all his wealth and he want to go to Madina to become Muslim. His mother gave him one blanket, which he cut in two pieces and wrapped around his torso and his shoulder and went to Madina.

He reached Madina during night and went to Prophet’s mosque and waited for prophet to emerge. Prophet saw him after morning prayer and asked his story, Abdullah told his full story, prophet was very much impressed by his sincerity and his faith. He accepted Islam and prophet gave him nickname DUL BAJADAIN which means “One with two blankets”.

Abdullah joined the group of SUFFA and started his learning of Quran and Islamic way of life. Shortly afterward Battle of Tabuk took place. DUL BAJADAIN went to prophet and said “O Messenger of Allah, pray to Allah that I receive martyrdom in this battle”

Prophet asked him to bring the bark of a tree to him. When he came with the bark, prophet tied it on his arm as an arm band and said “O Allah! I prohibit that any Non believer should shed his blood”

DUL BAJADAIN said “I wanted martyrdom, but you have said a thing totally opposite” Prophet replied “If you go forward in way of Allah and you die due to any cause, you are a martyr”

When the army reached Tabuk, DUL BAJADAIN was inflicted with high fever and he died after a brief illness. He was buried during night, with Bilal holding the torch, and Abu Bakr and Omar were lowering him in the grave and prophet was sitting near the grave giving instruction.

When the body was lowered in the grave, prophet prayed “O Allah! I was happy with him till this evening, you also become happy with him”

IBN MASOOD wished,“Oh would I have been in this grave”.

Such was the strange story of Abdullah i.e. DUL BAJADAIN victim of Prophet’ and Islam’ love.

Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#9300 Nov 23, 2012
rio wrote:
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Dubbadub.
It has been pointed to me that most of the so-called atheists on this thread, in fact know each other and belong to the same circle of atheists.
Nothing wron in that, of course, but they gather force to drum up their " beliefs" and drown out anyone remotely believer or agnostic, or just doubtful on this thread.
KittenKodder, Gimemeliberty and a few other are in fact using this as a propagation tool.
I thought it look suspociouis that no discussion was possible, just endocrination.
Never mind. Just another example of cyber terrorism.
How many times? Atheists don't have any beliefs in the sense that you (or Mitt Romney) have beliefs.

I simply note that you genuinely and demonstrably cannot see the difference in belief in pixies and disbelief in them. You treat each 'belief' as of equal merit.

Dubbadub says he thinks that Romney isn't stupid and Prof Dawkins was wrong to say he was, but perhaps Dubbadub misunderstood. I have only ever heard Prof Dawkins attack someone's beliefs, not their person. And if Mormonism isn't stupid, what is?...
http://whatmormonsbelieve.org/
Just because someone with much money who lives in the USA can keep it, doesn't mean that none of their beliefs are stupi, nor that certain of their beliefs aren't superstitious. In my opinion, they certainly seem to be.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#9301 Nov 23, 2012
Btw, I'm unsure what Rio means by 'know each other'. (I haven't had time to read all of every post). I for one have never met anyone from Topix. I only know them from meeting them here, like I have met you, Rio.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#9302 Nov 23, 2012
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. It is strange you think I am intelligent, the “general opinion” on the thread is that I am a “born idiot”.
....
Not really.
People talk of intelligence as something people either have, or they lack. It isn't that simple. Some people can function very well in society, have positive relationships and hold down a good job. They can still be superstitious and incredibly ignorant in some respects.

In a sense, there are different kinds of intelligence. The guy who fixes my car can do it far faster and better than I can (sadly:-), but I bet he couldn't get my exam results -(perhaps even in an exam on motor mechanics?) Clearly,(when compared with each other), he is clever when it comes to motor mechanics and I am clever at exams.

You, Muq, apparently cannot understand why a 14 year old shouldn't be shot in the head when she is going to school. At least you still haven't specifically condemned the shooting of Malala,(or did I miss that?)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldclass/20394024

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