Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23770 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#8142 Sep 20, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Give me my daily bread, if I need one!!
Seriously get a job!

Give me? That is what you ask of a god, give me? Maybe you should read the holy books, the gods want you to give, unto them. That's why you should get a job and provide for yourself, and then you can provide for your gods needs, too.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#8143 Sep 20, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Is believe in Creator against Science, Reason and logic or Vice Versa? Part-40
They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on!(Surat al-Kahf, 31)
Question corrected. No vice versa needed? It's like asking if "nutso", agrees with "nutso".
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-01 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-02 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-03 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-04 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-05 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-06 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-07 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-08 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-09 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-10 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-11 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-12 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-13 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-14 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-15 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-16 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-17 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-18 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-19 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-20 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-21 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-22 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-23 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-24 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-25 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-26 Answer: Yes.
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Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-28 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-29 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-30 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-31 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-32 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-33 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-34 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-35 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-36 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-37 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-38 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-39 Answer: Yes.
Does belief in a creator go against science, reason and logic? Part-40 Answer: Yes.
All the men have their own personal throne, and women to sexually serve them. Everybody is a king, and nobody is special. That paradise sounds like a true hogfest of pure gluttony and laziness, where-in believers lay at the trough of endless swill, forevermore.
Dak-original

Leatherhead, UK

#8144 Sep 20, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Seriously get a job!
Give me? That is what you ask of a god, give me? Maybe you should read the holy books, the gods want you to give, unto them. That's why you should get a job and provide for yourself, and then you can provide for your gods needs, too.
MUQ is paid one! Saudi jihadist organisation employs him.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#8145 Sep 20, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Lol! Such uncivilized barbaric idiots. Imagine living such hell in a world devoid of reason where you believe the moon commands you??
Doesn't your wife believe that?
Ramafuchs

Köln, Germany

#8147 Sep 20, 2012
In my world I have some friends who are my friends.
As an Atheist i wish to quote this.
"Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.
Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend.
Albert Camus
Ramafuchs

Köln, Germany

#8148 Sep 20, 2012
As a new born child we all are innocent without any religious affliation.
Religious views are inculcated thro' our parents education.
After our death we need no god.
In between birth and death there is a sort of religious fire or fever to contaminate the non-animal life.
Are there anyone who are well-versed about the importance of religious views to explain to me
about the life of animals and their religious infatuation?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8149 Sep 21, 2012

Is believe in Creator against Science, Reason and logic or Vice Versa? Part-40A

A WARNING TO THOSE WHO WOULD BE SAVED FROM ENDLESS TORMENT

Surely, everyone is free to live as he wishes in this world and to choose the path he wants. Nobody has the right to exercise compulsion over another. Yet, as those who believe in the existence and eternal justice of Allah, it is our solemn duty to warn those people who would reject Allah and who are unaware of their current state and course. Allah has informed us of the seriousness of the state of these people:

Which then is best?–he that lays his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure?– or he that lays his foundation on an undermined sandcliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it crumbles to pieces with him, into the fire of hell. And Allah does not guide people that do wrong.(Surat at-Tawba, 109)

People who deliberately turn their back on the words of Allah, or who unconsciously reject their own Creator, will have no means of salvation in the hereafter. If they do not repent and be guided to Allah, Who created them, they will suffer the greatest penalties possible. The eternal penalty awaiting them is stated thus in the Qur'an:

But those who reject Our signs, they are the (unhappy) companions of the left hand. On them will be fire vaulted over (all round).(Surat al- Balad, 19-20)

The way of relief from the eternal penalty and to deserve eternal paradise is evident:To have sincere faith in Allah before it is too late.
To spend one's life seeking His good pleasure.

The chapter you are about to read reveals a crucial secret of your life. You should read it very attentively and thoroughly for it concerns a subject that is liable to make fundamental changes in your outlook on the external world.

The subject of this chapter is not just a point of view, a different approach, or a traditional or philosophical thought: it is a fact which everyone, believing or unbelieving, must admit and which is also proven by science today.

People who conscientiously and wisely contemplate their surroundings realise that everything in the universe – both animate and inanimate – must have been created. The question is "Who is the Creator of all these things?" It is evident that "the fact of creation", which reveals itself in every aspect of the universe, cannot be an outcome of the universe itself. For example, a bug cannot have created itself. The solar system cannot have created or organised itself. Neither plants, humans, bacteria, erythrocytes (red-blood corpuscles), nor butterflies can have created themselves. Also the possibility that all these could have originated "by chance" is not even imaginable.

We therefore arrive at the following conclusion: Everything that we see has been created, but nothing we see can themselves be "creators". The Creator is different from and superior to all that we see with our eyes, a superior power that is invisible but whose existence and attributes are revealed in everything that exists. This is the point at which those who deny the existence of Allah demur.

These people are conditioned not to believe in His existence unless they see Him with their eyes. These people, who disregard the fact of "creation", are forced to ignore the actuality of "creation" manifest throughout the universe and try to prove that the universe and the living things in it have not been created. Evolutionary theory is an essential example of their vain endeavours to this end.

MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8150 Sep 21, 2012
The basic mistake of those who deny Allah is shared by many people who do not really deny the existence of Allah but have a wrong perception of Him. They do not deny creation but have superstitious beliefs about "where" Allah is. Most of them think that Allah is up in the "sky". They tacitly imagine that Allah is behind a very distant planet and interferes with "worldly affairs" once in a while, or perhaps does not intervene at all. They imagine that He created the universe and then left it to itself, leaving people to determine their fates for themselves.

Still others have heard that it is written in the Qur'an that Allah is "everywhere" but they cannot conceive what exactly this means. They think that Allah surrounds everything like radio waves or like an invisible, intangible gas. However, this and other beliefs that are unable to make clear "where" Allah is (and maybe because of that deny Him) are all based on a common mistake. They are prejudiced without any grounds for it and so are then moved to wrong opinions of Allah. What is this prejudice?

This prejudice is about the nature and characteristics of matter. We are so conditioned in our suppositions about the existence of matter that we never think whether it does exist or not or whether it is only a shadow. Modern science demolishes this prejudice and discloses a very important and revealing reality. In the following pages, we will try to clarify this great reality to which the Qur'an points.
Dak-original

Leatherhead, UK

#8151 Sep 21, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Is believe in Creator against Science, Reason and logic or Vice Versa? Part-40A
A WARNING TO THOSE WHO WOULD BE SAVED FROM ENDLESS TORMENT
Surely, everyone is free to live as he wishes in this world and to choose the path he wants. Nobody has the right to exercise compulsion over another. Yet, as those who believe in the existence and eternal justice of Allah, it is our solemn duty to warn those people who would reject Allah and who are unaware of their current state and course. Allah has informed us of the seriousness of the state of these people:
Which then is best?–he that lays his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure?– or he that lays his foundation on an undermined sandcliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it crumbles to pieces with him, into the fire of hell. And Allah does not guide people that do wrong.(Surat at-Tawba, 109)
People who deliberately turn their back on the words of Allah, or who unconsciously reject their own Creator, will have no means of salvation in the hereafter. If they do not repent and be guided to Allah, Who created them, they will suffer the greatest penalties possible. The eternal penalty awaiting them is stated thus in the Qur'an:
But those who reject Our signs, they are the (unhappy) companions of the left hand. On them will be fire vaulted over (all round).(Surat al- Balad, 19-20)
The way of relief from the eternal penalty and to deserve eternal paradise is evident:To have sincere faith in Allah before it is too late.
To spend one's life seeking His good pleasure.
The chapter you are about to read reveals a crucial secret of your life. You should read it very attentively and thoroughly for it concerns a subject that is liable to make fundamental changes in your outlook on the external world.
The subject of this chapter is not just a point of view, a different approach, or a traditional or philosophical thought: it is a fact which everyone, believing or unbelieving, must admit and which is also proven by science today.
People who conscientiously and wisely contemplate their surroundings realise that everything in the universe – both animate and inanimate – must have been created. The question is "Who is the Creator of all these things?" It is evident that "the fact of creation", which reveals itself in every aspect of the universe, cannot be an outcome of the universe itself. For example, a bug cannot have created itself. The solar system cannot have created or organised itself. Neither plants, humans, bacteria, erythrocytes (red-blood corpuscles), nor butterflies can have created themselves. Also the possibility that all these could have originated "by chance" is not even imaginable.
We therefore arrive at the following conclusion: Everything that we see has been created, but nothing we see can themselves be "creators". The Creator is different from and superior to all that we see with our eyes, a superior power that is invisible but whose existence and attributes are revealed in everything that exists. This is the point at which those who deny the existence of Allah demur.
These people are conditioned not to believe in His existence unless they see Him with their eyes. These people, who disregard the fact of "creation", are forced to ignore the actuality of "creation" manifest throughout the universe and try to prove that the universe and the living things in it have not been created. Evolutionary theory is an essential example of their vain endeavours to this end.
You should worry about your salvation and mend your ways instead of trying to mislead the unwary in the world. You know you are on the wrong horse and still carry on like a novice civil servant who worries about losing a job!
Dak-original

Leatherhead, UK

#8152 Sep 21, 2012
MUQ wrote:
The basic mistake of those who deny Allah is shared by many people who do not really deny the existence of Allah but have a wrong perception of Him. They do not deny creation but have superstitious beliefs about "where" Allah is. Most of them think that Allah is up in the "sky". They tacitly imagine that Allah is behind a very distant planet and interferes with "worldly affairs" once in a while, or perhaps does not intervene at all. They imagine that He created the universe and then left it to itself, leaving people to determine their fates for themselves.
Still others have heard that it is written in the Qur'an that Allah is "everywhere" but they cannot conceive what exactly this means. They think that Allah surrounds everything like radio waves or like an invisible, intangible gas. However, this and other beliefs that are unable to make clear "where" Allah is (and maybe because of that deny Him) are all based on a common mistake. They are prejudiced without any grounds for it and so are then moved to wrong opinions of Allah. What is this prejudice?
This prejudice is about the nature and characteristics of matter. We are so conditioned in our suppositions about the existence of matter that we never think whether it does exist or not or whether it is only a shadow. Modern science demolishes this prejudice and discloses a very important and revealing reality. In the following pages, we will try to clarify this great reality to which the Qur'an points.
Basic mistake? You are making a big mistake in being devious about GOD and spiritual matters.

Since: Mar 11

Latonia, KY

#8153 Sep 21, 2012
Islam is a religion that is the least converted to. People are born into it and that's the majority of new memberships. They are pushed to have several kids more than thy can care for and give proper attention to. Like Muq making a jackass out I himself here. Obviously he was one of several children and received little to no attention from his parents.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8154 Sep 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Islam is a religion that is the least converted to. People are born into it and that's the majority of new memberships. They are pushed to have several kids more than thy can care for and give proper attention to. Like Muq making a jackass out I himself here. Obviously he was one of several children and received little to no attention from his parents.
Nicely put.

Muq's disturbed posts only serve to show how his irrational belief in something that doesn't exist has addled his mind.

Since: Mar 11

Latonia, KY

#8155 Sep 21, 2012
Worse he advocates violence based on his Islamic beliefs. Look you look at these uncivilized goons and you consider how they grow up uncared for and unloved, add in their religion of violence and intolerance and is it no shock that they act like angry children throwing a temper tantrum?

Hmmm yes that is an apt description of these Muslims, when they don't get their way or get annoyed they act like destructive children throwing a temper tantrum.
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Nicely put.
Muq's disturbed posts only serve to show how his irrational belief in something that doesn't exist has addled his mind.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#8156 Sep 22, 2012
Is believe in Creator against Science, Reason and logic or Vice Versa? Part-41

AUTHORS OF "EVIL PLOTS"

The organised propaganda against faith in Allah indicates that these movements are manipulated from specific centres. In other words, there are a number of power centres that make a considerable effort to break down the religious beliefs of the community. Not surprisingly, Allah has called attention to these groups in the Qur'an. In one verse, a group of people punished by hell-fire in the hereafter call out to their leaders who have led them astray in the world, and say:

Nay! it was a plot (of yours) by day and by night: Behold! You (constantly) ordered us to be ungrateful to Allah and to attribute equals to Him!(Surah Saba, 33)

These groups who, by hatching evil plots, order others to be ungrateful to Allah have made an appearance in every period of history under different names and guises. Their basic characteristics have nonetheless always been the same. Allah has described them in the Qur'an as "the luxurious ones" (Surat al-Mumenoon, 64) or "the leaders of the arrogant party among their people" (Surat al-Araf, 75), which means that these people are those who are supremely privileged in material terms, who enjoy prestige in society and who display arrogance and haughtiness because of their possessions.

Regarding religion as a threat to the concessions they have snatched with injustice and oppression, they want to eliminate it. This is why they fabricate "evil plots" in order to lead their community to apostasy. Of course there cannot be a single definition of such organised powers. They assume different identities and forms in different societies. When, however, we take a look at the history of the last three or four centuries, we come across an international organisation that answers to the description in the Qur'an.

That organisation is freemasonry.

At this point we also need to stress that the global struggle of freemasonry is undertaken and supported by a power centre that is mentioned in the Qur'an: Jewry.

Although Judaism is a divine religion and Jews are adherents of that religion, they have played, as we have mentioned above, a crucial role in anti-religious propaganda conducted all over the world. This is mainly due to the arbitrary alteration of the Old Testament by rabbis and the insinuation of superstitious beliefs into the pure religion announced by the Prophet Musa. Having ceased to be a divine religion as a result of alterations by Jewish rabbis, Jewry has become a worldly and chauvinist ideology.

Ultimately various ultra-conservative Jews, who regard religion as a concept exclusive to themselves, have taken the position that Christianity and Islam are "false religions" that must be abolished. Besides, this interesting interplay makes those in question act as powers that strive to erase all religious beliefs from the world. This is the very logic of the alliance between Jewry and freemasonry.


Dak-original

Leatherhead, UK

#8157 Sep 22, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Is believe in Creator against Science, Reason and logic or Vice Versa? Part-41
AUTHORS OF "EVIL PLOTS"
The organised propaganda against faith in Allah indicates that these movements are manipulated from specific centres. In other words, there are a number of power centres that make a considerable effort to break down the religious beliefs of the community. Not surprisingly, Allah has called attention to these groups in the Qur'an. In one verse, a group of people punished by hell-fire in the hereafter call out to their leaders who have led them astray in the world, and say:
Nay! it was a plot (of yours) by day and by night: Behold! You (constantly) ordered us to be ungrateful to Allah and to attribute equals to Him!(Surah Saba, 33)
These groups who, by hatching evil plots, order others to be ungrateful to Allah have made an appearance in every period of history under different names and guises. Their basic characteristics have nonetheless always been the same. Allah has described them in the Qur'an as "the luxurious ones" (Surat al-Mumenoon, 64) or "the leaders of the arrogant party among their people" (Surat al-Araf, 75), which means that these people are those who are supremely privileged in material terms, who enjoy prestige in society and who display arrogance and haughtiness because of their possessions.
Regarding religion as a threat to the concessions they have snatched with injustice and oppression, they want to eliminate it. This is why they fabricate "evil plots" in order to lead their community to apostasy. Of course there cannot be a single definition of such organised powers. They assume different identities and forms in different societies. When, however, we take a look at the history of the last three or four centuries, we come across an international organisation that answers to the description in the Qur'an.
That organisation is freemasonry.
At this point we also need to stress that the global struggle of freemasonry is undertaken and supported by a power centre that is mentioned in the Qur'an: Jewry.
Although Judaism is a divine religion and Jews are adherents of that religion, they have played, as we have mentioned above, a crucial role in anti-religious propaganda conducted all over the world. This is mainly due to the arbitrary alteration of the Old Testament by rabbis and the insinuation of superstitious beliefs into the pure religion announced by the Prophet Musa. Having ceased to be a divine religion as a result of alterations by Jewish rabbis, Jewry has become a worldly and chauvinist ideology.
Ultimately various ultra-conservative Jews, who regard religion as a concept exclusive to themselves, have taken the position that Christianity and Islam are "false religions" that must be abolished. Besides, this interesting interplay makes those in question act as powers that strive to erase all religious beliefs from the world. This is the very logic of the alliance between Jewry and freemasonry.
Who is talking here about "evil plots"!!? LOL! I believe MUQ and his sort will have lot to answer to Real God!
henry

Germany

#8158 Sep 22, 2012
EdSed wrote:
Sorry, this is the link re:29th Brit Attitudes survey (BHA)...
http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/1117
I think the highest level for 'no religion' was 2009 (51%). It appears to have fallen to 45.7% this time? Possibly, this suggests some kind of reaction against the prevailing trend, but the trend overall seems clear. And of those who stated a religion..
IF RELIGION GIVEN AT [RelRFW] OR AT [RelFFW] AND NO REFUSAL AT EITHER
Q945 [ChAttend] N=2750
Apart from such special occasions as weddings, funerals and baptisms, how often nowadays do you attend services or meetings connected with your religion?
% PROBE AS NECESSARY.
14.3 Once a week or more
1.7 Less often but at least once in two weeks
5.8 Less often but at least once a month
10.0 Less often but at least twice a year
5.6 Less often but at least once a year
4.6 Less often than once a year
57.5 Never or practically never
0.4 Varies too much to say
-(Don't know)
0.0 (Refusal)
I am an atheist.
henry

Germany

#8159 Sep 22, 2012
Dak-original wrote:
<quoted text>
You should worry about your salvation and mend your ways instead of trying to mislead the unwary in the world. You know you are on the wrong horse and still carry on like a novice civil servant who worries about losing a job!
Salvation, is not even worth a laugh.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8160 Sep 22, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Worse he advocates violence based on his Islamic beliefs. Look you look at these uncivilized goons and you consider how they grow up uncared for and unloved, add in their religion of violence and intolerance and is it no shock that they act like angry children throwing a temper tantrum?
Hmmm yes that is an apt description of these Muslims, when they don't get their way or get annoyed they act like destructive children throwing a temper tantrum.
<quoted text>
Absolutely!

They're a bunch of bearded buffoons who aren't happy with their world unless they're denying equality to their women and imposing death penalties for blasphemy, homosexuality and witchcraft.

Since: Mar 11

Latonia, KY

#8161 Sep 22, 2012
Unwashed bearded buffoons with bad teeth. Uneducated uncivilized animals. Muq the spambot being a perfect example of idiots like these. Give it time slowly the Muslim youth are moving away from Islam or not being so radical about it more like a Sunday catholic lol
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely!
They're a bunch of bearded buffoons who aren't happy with their world unless they're denying equality to their women and imposing death penalties for blasphemy, homosexuality and witchcraft.
Dak-original

Leatherhead, UK

#8162 Sep 22, 2012
henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Salvation, is not even worth a laugh.
Henry, you are nihilistic and atheist! I suppose you are then also subscribe to existentialist philosophy?!!
I do believe in concept of GOD but then it is just a belief, and not truth! I also believe in spirituality. For many tens of thousands years humans evolved while believing in suprnatual and spirtual matters.

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