Comparison: Honda Magna & VTX 1300

Comparison: Honda Magna & VTX 1300

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Sean

Siloam Springs, AR

#1 Apr 28, 2008
Hi all,
I've been the proud owner of a '94 Honda Magna for a number of years now. Lately, I've been more and more intrigued by the VTX 1300.

I love the power of the Magna, the ease of city driving on a quick bike, combined with the comfort of cruising. I'm assuming the VTX would be very different from my 4 cyl. Magna, but how different?

Anybody driven both?
Ted Widlake

Niagara Falls, Canada

#2 May 9, 2008
I don't have a comment about the VTX 1300 but I do have a question about your Magna. Is yours a VF750 or is it bigger? Smaller? I bought a '94 VF750 Magna last August with only 11,500 miles on it. Enjoying it very much but was concerned about engine/valve knock at idle. I found a Honda service bulletin issued to correct the problem; camshaft side thrust movement. My local maintenance shop is reluctant to do the work because of time and possible problems reassembling components. Did you have this done on your bike? If yes, was it Honda who did it or an independent shop?
Sean

Siloam Springs, AR

#3 May 11, 2008
Hey Ted,
Sounds like we have the exact same bike... with the exact same knocking at idle. My bike has about 12,500 miles on it, so they sound pretty identical.

I did take my bike to the Honda dealer when I first heard the knock and was assured there were no problems. After that time, I discovered the service bulleting you referenced. I have not yet pressed the dealer on taking care of this, but thought I would when I bring the bike in for a real overhaul. In the mean time, it is a pretty major project to correct the problem.

I have no idea if my dealer will do this at cost or even less (free?) because of the technical service bulletin, but I would probably start at the Honda dealer on this one since it's their problem...

Hope that helps.
Mitch

Rochester, MN

#4 May 12, 2008
I have a '95 Magna with 6800 miles on it. I purchased it new and it has had a knock at idle since day one. The first couple of years I owned it I had it serviced more regularly than the manual recommends at two different Honda dealerships. I was concerned about the knocking but was told by both not to worry about it since it only occurs at low engine RPM and oil pressures, which is true. The knocking disappears above 1500 RPM and I have never had any additional problems. My guess is your bikes have always had the knock as well.
Ahmed Rasmy

Egypt

#5 May 21, 2008
I have 94 Magna with 30000 km on clock about 19000 miles, it has the same sound; took it to Honda dealer as well as 2 other independent mechanics and all said that it is a common problem in Magna and should not cause any problems unless it is severe...now we have to define "severe"
BOB

Clementon, NJ

#6 Jul 8, 2008
Hi all,
I have a question about a 1994 Honda Magna I just purchased. The left cylinder bank doesn't fire up until the bike reaches 3000 rpm and then the bike runs good. A fellow told me that that's the way the bike is designed. I dont believe it.
Shouldnt all four cylinders be firing from idle?
Ted Widlake

Toronto, Canada

#7 Jan 13, 2009
Well I had the service bulletin performed on my '94 Magna this fall. Cannot tell if it is the synthetic oil or the new lubrication channels added but the bike is noticeably smoother and quieter at idle. Had the work performed by a Honda dealership. They had to search around for the bulletin at other dealerships but finally got all the technical info.
Sean

Siloam Springs, AR

#9 Jan 17, 2009
Ted -- would you mind sharing what the dealer charged you for the service bulletin repair?
Mike

Rochester, MN

#10 Jan 20, 2009
BOB wrote:
Hi all,
I have a question about a 1994 Honda Magna I just purchased. The left cylinder bank doesn't fire up until the bike reaches 3000 rpm and then the bike runs good. A fellow told me that that's the way the bike is designed. I dont believe it.
Shouldnt all four cylinders be firing from idle?
All 4 cyclinders should always fire. There is a possibility that two of the carbs are out of adjustment. I have 26,000 miles on my '99 and it runs like new. I also have the idle knock mentioned in other notes. No problem. It gets a ***** rating.
ted widlake

Ottawa, Canada

#11 May 11, 2009
Sean wrote:
Ted -- would you mind sharing what the dealer charged you for the service bulletin repair?
I had this work performed in Ontario where I live so you have to consider the usual higher price for the service here as well as the difference in C$ and U$. It was high and I was advised by Honda that it would be. With synthetic oil etc the cost about C$680. This appears to be a 'personal preference' service bulletin. I prefer the purr of my VFR after the work.
dennis

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Jul 6, 2009
Sean wrote:
Hi all,
I've been the proud owner of a '94 Honda Magna for a number of years now. Lately, I've been more and more intrigued by the VTX 1300.
I love the power of the Magna, the ease of city driving on a quick bike, combined with the comfort of cruising. I'm assuming the VTX would be very different from my 4 cyl. Magna, but how different?
Anybody driven both?
With the age of your message this reponse is a little late but I do have a V65, VTX1300 and a Goldwing and I can tell you they all are totally different bikes! For max speed and power the V65 is it! For comfort, smooth, quiet, vibration free, electric motor feel with radio the G.W. is the ticket! For pure fun with noise, vibration, low rpm high torque engine the VTX1300 is the choice! I love all three and it really depends on my mood on any day. I might add without a radio on the VTX I have to sing and I'am not sure people are ready for that!
Don Manhart

Hays, KS

#13 Mar 10, 2010
Ted Widlake wrote:
I don't have a comment about the VTX 1300 but I do have a question about your Magna. Is yours a VF750 or is it bigger? Smaller? I bought a '94 VF750 Magna last August with only 11,500 miles on it. Enjoying it very much but was concerned about engine/valve knock at idle. I found a Honda service bulletin issued to correct the problem; camshaft side thrust movement. My local maintenance shop is reluctant to do the work because of time and possible problems reassembling components. Did you have this done on your bike? If yes, was it Honda who did it or an independent shop?
Ted, Just found your comment from last May,'08. I, too, have a '94 VF750 Magna, 11,000 miles and the engine knock is terrible. Who did you get to fix yours? No one in this area has any experience with the problem.
Where did you find the service bulletin?
Any help would be appreciated. I love the bike and want to keep it but am afraid the "knock" will damage the engine.
Cullen

Ilderton, Canada

#14 Apr 11, 2010
I have owned a 94 magna since 98. I rode it right back to the dealer when i first heard the upper "knocking" noise. They also said it shouldn't be an issue and that Honda knew of this issue. I found the bulletin and repair procedure on line and talked to the dealer, they again said i don't need to worry about it. After about 4 years of driving it like that and running synthetic oil in it, I couldn't stand the noise at every red light so, I followed thr repair procedures my self. It was surprisingly easier than I thought and I have never heard it knock since. It was very gratifying to have it sit ideling and to only hear the rumble from the exhaust.
Dustin Manhart

Austin, TX

#15 May 6, 2010
Can you tell me where you found the service bulliten?
2nd-Class Intellect

Duluth, GA

#16 May 25, 2010
Dustin Manhart wrote:
Can you tell me where you found the service bulliten?
You can find it here: http://i50.tinypic.com/2q8920i.jpg
Tom D

Durham, NC

#17 Jun 10, 2010
I have a 1994 Magna VF750. It has 51,000 miles on it and purrs like a kitten. I have no idea if the service bulletin work was ever done as I have only owned it for 2 years.

It is a great motorcycle. However, a 2001 Gold Wing found its way into my garage, so the Magna is for sale.$3,000

[email protected]

Durham, NC
grenny47

Cincinnati, OH

#18 Jul 4, 2010
The knocking noise on a 1994 Magna and some other later models can most likely be fixed by pulling the cam holder and drilling the holes as instructed by the Service Bulliten. But before you pull you're bike appart I would try this. Change the oil with 10w40 Mobil One Synthetic and replace the filter with a Fram (I think it's a PH6017a but go online to verify). The filter that Fram makes has 10 holes, not 8 like the Honda filter allowing better oil flow. This filter in combination with the synthetic oil will make a major difference, it worked for me. If not, you can always fall back on drilling holes for better oil flow.
Navy Dave

Hammond, IN

#19 Jul 8, 2010
Cullen wrote:
I have owned a 94 magna since 98. I rode it right back to the dealer when i first heard the upper "knocking" noise. They also said it shouldn't be an issue and that Honda knew of this issue. I found the bulletin and repair procedure on line and talked to the dealer, they again said i don't need to worry about it. After about 4 years of driving it like that and running synthetic oil in it, I couldn't stand the noise at every red light so, I followed thr repair procedures my self. It was surprisingly easier than I thought and I have never heard it knock since. It was very gratifying to have it sit ideling and to only hear the rumble from the exhaust.
I have the same problem with mine, it's a 94 too. Was it hard to do it yourself? Any pointers?
warnerwh

Portland, OR

#20 Jul 9, 2010
You guys may try going to: http://www.magnaownersoftexas.com/forums/

I think it is likely the best place for info on our 3rd gen Magnas. Everything I have read seems to point to the knocking is not worth worrying about. Even the later ones like my 2001 have a knock at idle. People have ridden these with the knock to 80-90,000 miles and probably more.
Also I'd not worry about adjusting the valves. It's very rare that they need to be adjusted and if they are off a tiny bit they were most likely that way from the factory.
jimmyz

Kingston, PA

#21 Jul 17, 2010
i have a 1996 magna and it too has the characteristic knock at idle w/ no rideability concern. in response to BOB...my magna had the dead left cylinder issue as well. the problem turned out to be dirty carbs...take them off & clean them. at this time with the carbs off & apart, if you have aftermarket exhaust ie: vance & hines, its a great opportunity to do some jetting & perhaps k&n air filter....factory pro makes a great kit for this bike. after jetting & k&n & exhaust you will find it to be an entirely different machine...more powerful, more fun & even sounds better in the exhaust. if you are inclined to be interested, please take the time to do the jetting & tuning properly and you will not be disappointed...regards. J

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