Honda Blackbird Resurrection????

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Daniel

Waipahu, HI

#1 Sep 4, 2006
As a loyal Honda rider for 36 years I am having a hard time with the fact that "MY motocycle company" does not offer a bike I want in the USA! The CB1300 retro style I sat on in a showroom in Littlehampton England was great -- but not available in the USA. The Blackbird was put to death a while back but rumors of its return still haunt my dreams. I live in Hawaii and have even looked into importing a CB1300 from Japan, but that is not to be: dealership won't service it; redtape to the max; and the cost would be crazy. So, is there ANY truth about Honda fielding a serious bike to put the Suzuki HayaBusa down?(I will happily accept lies here folks) Even the Kawasaki riders have a behemoth to call there own. Poor old Honda.
My heart is still Honda red, but my balls say Suzuki.
ken

Adelaide, Australia

#2 Sep 17, 2006
goes phewt well they still sell the blackbird here in australia and in black aswell efi the lot for $15000 aud on road 300klms plus top end and lots more i owned a 90 model my self
Trak Turtle

Mumbai, India

#3 Sep 25, 2006
Hi mates,
A little off the topic I crave to mention facts about the BIRD whenever given a chance.
Still cant figure out why the Blackbird went off the shelf in USA and a crap bag like the Hayabusa sells worldwide like pancakes... comparing the two is like comparing maggots to oranges ...lol
Well I have a few fundamentals that form the basis of my judgement -
a) A motorcycle to me is not its top speed but how it behaves in getting there and back. That's the difference between the Blackbird and the bike it lost its throne to ... sigh. All that the Busa is good at is blowing the top speed trumpet, while the Blackbird is a true home of innovation where the manner of getting to its top speed and getting back is concerned - power band delivery, engine's hum and roar- reflects its bullet proof nature, the weight distribution, braking all those horses knowing you will stop and stop well in time.
c) I wanna carry myself on the bike - not cook food on its chassis or have roasted hair on my thighs and arms if I ever make the mistake of taking an easy ride on it.( Hats off to the BUSA's paint job that doesn't blister, considering the temperatures it maintains.)Yes the Busa has one advantage - where I live, a lot of beggars around. rest assured, on a BUSA they wouldn't approach you on a red light in the fear of getting burnt around it...lol
b)HAPPINESS IS NOT AROUND THE CORNER, HAPPINESS IS THE CORNER - this is where the true difference in innovation and crap shows.
c) Finally - I believe reaction times are allotted to a rider & are a part of his destiny - however don't use your destiny as brakes - use the motorycle's - dual or not the BIRD stops far far before the BUSA even starts to.
Its a pity a bike like the BIRD is out of contention over a few more degrees on the speedo - speeds we see on rare occasions - on all other days - the character of the bike rides with us.
I've been racing an Isle of Man of my own here and have understood bike behaviors closely mate - the BIRD will be dearly missed - thankfully I have one that I choose to grow old with :)
Cheers, Trak Turtle
jake

Noblesville, IN

#4 Oct 9, 2006
I heard from a friend that works at the airport in shipping, that honda sent to boxes with test bikes to a calf. company in boxes marked marked SR 71a.
Bill

Easley, SC

#5 Nov 9, 2006
Daniel ... I, too, miss the 'Bird, but have fallen for the ST1300. Have you ridden this engineering marvel? I realize that Hawaii has limited road distances, but the ST shines still. Give one a ride; I think you'll be impressed ....
jason

United States

#6 Nov 12, 2006
I also love my machine a 2000 blackbird very comfy to me 6'5 260 road my brother n laws busa it sucks not just saying that it don't respond like my bird and as far as speed go's the bike is only as fast as the man riding it most eevery busa i have come across i hand theme there butts sure ihave slight mods but a busa has 200 more :cc: and is 10 pounds lighter I will be adding a turbo this winter to my bird and I promise you busas will see the after burner glow! personal tag on bike "busa etr"
Jason

Jacksonville, FL

#7 Nov 23, 2006
Recently bought a '98 Bird. I have been through 7 bikes in the last 3 years. That's not a missprint. This is the finest machine I have ever ridden. I've been buying and selling everything from Buell to Ducati to BMW, and yes I had a 6 month go at the BUSA. I have finally found the one, currently at 23000 miles, I will run with her until she fades, and hopefully by then Honda will have re-released the bird, or come through with her replacement. It seems rather ridiculous that Honda pulled the XX from U.S. pavement, as we have the most blacktop worldwide, and the biggest market for big liter bikes like the XX. Check out sales on the Busa, and the ZX-14. Currently Honda has nothing to offer us, (like the XX) Surely they notice the money their losing, and will answer back the way they always do.
Hi New CB1300 Forum

Coalville, UK

#8 Jan 9, 2007
Hi you are all welcome !!! Thank you
http://www.hondacb1300.net
DoubleXXredbird

Cardiff, UK

#9 Apr 27, 2007
Hi all, after a bit of info. Just bought my first bird, a 1997 carbed model. Had a Bandit 1200 for quite some time before the bird so not too sure about the noises I am hearing from the Honda. From 1000rpm to approx 4000rpm the motor is smooth and quiet (all standard, pipes etc) then just after 4000rpm the engine noise seems to change into what I can only describe as a growl/rumble. Is this normal ?. Also, while at a standstill with the clutch lever out there seems to be a fair amount of clutch rumble and when the lever is pulled in it seems a lot less noisy. Is this normal ?. Oh, and when it gets to around 7000rpm it want's to pull my arms out from my shoulders, this I like and hope it's the norm :0). Any info appreciated. Regards.
Trak Turtle

Mumbai, India

#10 May 9, 2007
DoubleXXredbird wrote:
Hi all, after a bit of info. Just bought my first bird, a 1997 carbed model. Had a Bandit 1200 for quite some time before the bird so not too sure about the noises I am hearing from the Honda. From 1000rpm to approx 4000rpm the motor is smooth and quiet (all standard, pipes etc) then just after 4000rpm the engine noise seems to change into what I can only describe as a growl/rumble. Is this normal ?. Also, while at a standstill with the clutch lever out there seems to be a fair amount of clutch rumble and when the lever is pulled in it seems a lot less noisy. Is this normal ?. Oh, and when it gets to around 7000rpm it want's to pull my arms out from my shoulders, this I like and hope it's the norm :0). Any info appreciated. Regards.
Ok, there's a slight vibration received around the 3500rpm mark that disappears past 4000rpm. This is normal if the vibration is slight mate. If its unusual, u gotta have that cam chain tensioner checked.If ur vibration is beyond 4000, start with the tensioner replacement & u'll nail it.
About the rumple at idle with the lever out... perfectly normal, its ur cl. bearing that requires the play... its very normal.
Past 7000 rpm, that feeling... just make sure u keep ur grip strong... it can be fatal :)
Cheers m8
Brett Australia

Australia

#11 Sep 25, 2007
Not sure if this thread is still being monitored. I spoke to a Honda Rep the other day at the Brisbane Motorcycle show. Apparently Honda are looking at a whole new bike for late 2008 early 2009 as a Blackbird replacement. They originally had played with a 1200cc Turbo engine, but now are looking at a 1500cc Turbo engine, inline four. The VFR800 should be receiving the V5 motor with 1000cc capacity. All for 2008, the Turbo should blast the Hayabusa into the weeds. Good things come to those who wait. Congats to Casey Stober on his MotoGP World Championship win.
Hayabusa God

United States

#12 Oct 24, 2007
I hope Honda develops a real bike. I am sick of humiliating the Kawasuki folks exclusively. I'll keep checkin my mirrors for ya
Colin Harper

Brisbane, Australia

#13 Dec 25, 2007
Hi all my brother works for honda japan . New 1373 cc four due November 2008 209 hp+ 121ft lbs.
Electronic limit 180 mph, ss 1/4 mile 9.8 sec.Will be called Honda Redbird,cant wait pigsy.
Colin Harper

Brisbane, Australia

#14 Dec 25, 2007
New Honda Redbird due November 2008. 1373cc , 209 hp , 121 ftlbs. Limited to 181 MPH but 0 to 60 2.7 seconds and easy sub 10 1/4 mile, Whoohoo.
LOLO

Paris, France

#15 Jan 9, 2008
It's a joke no ??
redline

Lowood, Australia

#16 Jan 27, 2008
to hayabusa god,

grow a brain, the blackbird will hand u ur ass every day of the week, a new bird will go just as fast as a new busa FFS
Hondabuser

Leeds, UK

#17 Mar 18, 2008
I want to believe you re. Blackbird replacement but find it v. hard to beleive that NOTHING else has leaked aynwhere on the net, this close to supposed bike launch.

The Busa replacement was heralded many years before it actually arrived.

Really sad that Honda have abandoned so many with no VTR, underpowered & quirky VFR & no response to Kwak or `Zook even into `Busa's SECOND generation.

Apart from anything else, Honda's PR & Marketing dept. have missed a HUGE opportunity if they have a `Busa eater so close in the pipeline. A few discrete press leaks / exclusives of thinly disguised mules testing would've seen a lot of ZX14 and `Busa buyers keep hold of their cash `til next year.

Let's hope the rumour proves correct. I have good money to pay for an updated `bird - but can't wait beyond this time next year.
Busaland Australia

Australia

#18 May 7, 2008
Having ridden Busa find it difficult to believe the Bird is in the same league. Yes the Bird goes fast but it does not enjoy the corners as well as the Busa. Also spoke to Honda dealer regards new or replacement Bird supposedly due late or early this 2008 or 2009. Would be nice to see new Bird always love the finish on Honda bikes found slightly better than Suzuki
Retep

Alkmaar, Netherlands

#19 Jun 3, 2008
I've never understood why honda launched the blackbird and never bothered to upgrade it in its well over a decade lifespan!-that is ofcourse unless you consider the electronics and enviromental stuff an upgrade.-

Granted you shouldnt change a winner, but in 2008 this baby really could do with a successor or at the very least a drastic update to make it through the 2010s. So far nothing has turned up to indicate we've got a new bird on our hands.

It's almost like honda build the best damn sportstourer ever concieved in a market segment they practically invented themselves and are now abandonning it.

The only thing i can think of that would justify this would be the bird never should as well as honda anticipated and they dont want to spend the resources on a successor while other bikes in their spectrum are doing really well on the market.

I really hope i'm wrong here. Cause i love my bird. Its fast, Its smooth, Its idiotproof, Its an engineering marvel in every aspect and its still got 'the looks'
Retep

Alkmaar, Netherlands

#20 Jun 3, 2008
sold <= not should :S

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